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« on: July 22, 2011, 01:01:06 PM »
Does anyone know of any DS bootlegs? I'm talking about things like multicarts and such, because all the ds bootlegs i know of are just bootlegs of actual ds games produced by nintendo. If anyone has pictures, roms, or anything like that it would be greatly appriciated.
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2011, 01:11:16 PM »
Yeah, there are DS multicarts out there - here's a couple of sellers:
http://www.dhgate.com/hot-ds-multi-card-ds-card-video-games/r-ff8080812ca0db81012ca69993631f56.html
http://www.ndsmulticart.com/

I don't know of any actual pirate originals for the DS, but that doesn't necessarily mean they don't exist - hell I didn't know of any for the GBA until 2008, and about 10 have been discovered since then.
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2011, 01:31:16 PM »
If you count bootleg carts in general, I think R4 Revolution carts count. Problem is, they're a bit hard to find from what I've noticed.

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2011, 04:56:29 PM »
I own a couple different flavors of DS/DSi/3DS flash carts, all pretty much are the same.

All of the DS multi-game carts I own are actually just a redone TTDS flash cart. They boot to the TTDS firmware when you start them up, and have all the options and everything that is in a normal TTDS flash cart. For all intents and purposes they're just a TTDS flash cart with built in ROMs and the micro-SD card slot removed.

I was kind of disappointed in that, I was hoping they'd at least have some type of pirate-programmed menu. But, you know how this stuff goes, I'm sure it's cheaper and easier to just use a hacked flash cartridge firmware than program your own :p

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2011, 04:58:29 PM »
Well it's not surprising, considering that GBA multicarts run on PocketNES. Mind you, I think it'd take quite a lot of space to fit 250 DS games on one cartridge.

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2011, 07:54:43 PM »
I don't know the exact cartridge size but the largest one I own is a 370-in-1.

Although that may seem large, compared to using an 8gig or larger SDHC card in a regular flash cart it's small.

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2011, 08:03:30 PM »
Well as far as I can tell, the average size of a DS game is 32MB which when multiplied by 370 amounts to 11GB. Presumably, they use smaller games so that they can include more of them on the multicarts, which probably explains why they tend to include awful Disney licenses over RPGs.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2011, 08:14:47 PM »
yeah they usually use small games (~8-16mb) and trim the roms. that's why there are always a lot of puzzle games for example, they're usually the smallest.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 05:36:15 PM »
Besides multicarts though, has anyone seen a bootleg game that was not made by nintendo? All the bootlegs i've seen are just bootlegs of games allready approved of by nintendo.

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 05:38:52 PM »
Not really. I think pirates are too busy making proprietary bootleg consoles and Wii clones to care about the DS. :P

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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 06:08:12 PM »
haha true. Also, i heard that nintendo really upped the security on the ds and their games and they also keep releasing new consoles (dsi, dsixl, 3d)...

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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 06:13:23 PM »
retrogamersftw
Aug 1 2011, 06:08:12 PM
haha true. Also, i heard that nintendo really upped the security on the ds and their games and they also keep releasing new consoles (dsi, dsixl, 3d)...[/quote]Makes sense I suppose, but I'm pretty sure the main reason for the DSi, DSi XL, etc. is greed on Nintendo's part. <_<

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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 07:56:55 PM »
retrogamersftw
Aug 1 2011, 06:08:12 PM
haha true. Also, i heard that nintendo really upped the security on the ds and their games and they also keep releasing new consoles (dsi, dsixl, 3d)...[/quote]well the DS and DS Lite have been hacked to hell and back, there's no reason at all someone couldn't make an unlicensed game for those, especially with all the homebrew dev tools out there. Nintendo might still manage to lock it out of the DSi/3DS but there's still a huge ass market of people with old DSs out there.

i guess the only reason none have been made is that either no one has the talent, no one has the money or just no one wants to do it.

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2011, 01:32:42 AM »
taizou
Aug 1 2011, 07:56:55 PM
i guess the only reason none have been made is that either no one has the talent, no one has the money or just no one wants to do it.[/quote]Agree 100%, with prevalence of billions of flash carts and ROMs galore there just isn't any market.

Piracy killed the pirates. ..sniff O.o

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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2011, 01:39:15 AM »
The more prevalent companies that were making originals still for game consoles were all owned by Gamtec as we recently learned, and as the wiki says no one from those days works at Gamtec anymore. It can probably be assumed once Gamtec switched owners or whatever and become what it is now, everything else that they were a part of (VFame, Sintax, SKOB, everybody really) died out with them.

There probably won't be anymore Gamtecs out there that have investors for original Taiwan produced games, no other companies would bother starting that up again at this rate. What we're left with will just be those plan and play things from the likes of Hummer, with lots of remade FC pirates :x

Sucks!