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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2011, 01:34:53 PM »
Hm, interesting... while searching for other ripped ROMs of dance-mat famiclones, I've just discovered a sort of missing link between Gold Leopard King and Dance Master.

Recall that there's the already dumped "GLK Dance" ROM, produced by a company called Feng Li. As I discovered a while back, GLK does indeed stand for Gold Leopard King, and Feng Li is the manufacturer of that line of consoles.

Well, it turns out there's an alternate Chinese version of it, with an almost identical title screen also crediting Feng Li. This one's got two sub-games: a 12-song version that's identical in its interface to GLK Dance, and a 24-song version that's clearly the predecessor to the above-mentioned Xtreme Dance-- and thus, to Dance Master as well.

This is in the file "FC-两款跳舞机.rar" on maxzhou88's file storage.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 03:42:48 AM »
found yet another one being sold in bulk: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ150559164157
and googling the model number to see if i could find any more info on it led me to this:
"CHILDREN CAN DANCE INTO DANGER WITH LATEST CRAZE."
and this:
"Warning on danger dance mats"
ahem. oh dear.
 if i ever get one of those i'll remember not to use the AC adapter that comes with it :D

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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2011, 04:00:30 AM »
I personally wouldn't use any AC adaptor that came with imported Chinese crap - I've seen some really dangerous ones, and heard several stories of them exploding, luckily half the time they have a foreign plug which forces me to use another one (for some reason they are all the same, 9V 500ma tip negative) - built-in safety measure :)
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2011, 04:09:59 AM »
yeah true, i'm always a bit wary of famiclone/etc adapters, especially the cheaper looking ones.  I tend to just use the one from my Mega Drive (model 1), its 10v rather than 9v but its never caused me any problems.

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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2011, 08:53:44 AM »
I have a suspicion that's probably the system that's dumped as "Hot Dance 2000". Given that it says "Dance 2000" on the mat itself and "hot dance" on the package, it only seems logical.

("Hot dance"... literally. Lulz.)

Edit: Then again, perhaps not; the thing claims to have stereo sound, which a Famiclone obviously doesn't. But then again, the packages for these things are usually covered in blatant lies, so yeah...

Edit #2: The manufacturer appears to be "Soyin", as one can see if one squints at the upper-right corner of the mat. This appears to be them, judging from the logo; they're now known as GreatHouse Electronics and don't sell any dance mats even on their Chinese site. Granted, it has been over 10 years...

Edit #3: And the Internet Archive proves useful again! SY-2000-04 is the first product listed there. The things were sold in bulk, in packages of... you guessed it... sixteen. Alas, no demo video or anything, not even a spec list or song list or anything.
More bootleg-DDR history, courtesy of maxzhou88: original Chinese post and Google translation. Seems that there are even more variations of Hot Dance, GLK Dance and Dance Xtreme out there, all of which appear to have originated in the Baoan district of Shenzhen. There's even one version that has the Hot Dance graphics but the Dance Xtreme/Dance Master UI.

Alas, I couldn't find the dump of these four versions on his file storage (anyone who knows sufficient Chinese want to comment to tell him the file's missing?).

Edit: Ooh! One of them is Mix Party 2001! Apparently it's a Famiclone with an added chip for digitized sound. Can't tell if it's the VT03 or not; the photo is rather blurry.

He also claims there's a dance mat that uses Megadrive-compatible hardware, but that he broke it trying to rip it. -_-;; So maybe that one Gold Leopard King box really is telling the truth.
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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2011, 01:39:35 PM »
codeman38
Feb 14 2011, 08:53:44 AM
Edit: Ooh! One of them is Mix Party 2001! Apparently it's a Famiclone with an added chip for digitized sound. Can't tell if it's the VT03 or not; the photo is rather blurry.[/quote]I'm guessing that's what the 2008 version of Street Dance runs on. And of course, that one's by Inventor.

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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2011, 02:56:38 PM »
Street Dance 2008 is definitely a VT03. Runs perfectly well, audio and everything, in EmuVT after the ROM header has been stripped.
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2011, 03:27:47 PM »
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Feb 14 2011, 02:56:38 PM
Street Dance 2008 is definitely a VT03. Runs perfectly well, audio and everything, in EmuVT after the ROM header has been stripped.[/quote]It actually runs perfectly fine in CaH4e3's FCEU mod as well, so it's nothing a NES emulator can't run. I'm not expert at this sort of thing, but I think it's possible that all of the PCM is in the ROM (which would explain why that ROM is 2mb because that Hit Mouse game is 40kb) and the emulator runs it directly. I also assume that it's somewhat similar to the raw PCM samples in games like S.C.A.T. (gotta love the title :D ) except of course, the ones in Street Dance are a lot longer than the NES can handle. (If I remember correctly, a PCM sample in a NES game can be about 10 seconds long at the most, and that's in poor quality) Action 52 seems to do the same thing with its intro music, but I'm not sure what.

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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2011, 04:46:55 PM »
I don't think there is a limit on sample length even on the standard NES, it just depends on the mapper and ROM size and stuff. there's a demo ROM out there that plays the entire Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme tune (way better quality than Street Dance) and that just runs on MMC5.

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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2011, 04:57:27 PM »
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Feb 14 2011, 04:46:55 PM
I don't think there is a limit on sample length even on the standard NES, it just depends on the mapper and ROM size and stuff. there's a demo ROM out there that plays the entire Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme tune (way better quality than Street Dance) and that just runs on MMC5.[/quote]So you're right, wasn't even aware the NES was capable of that quality TBH. Mind you, I think if they tried putting 12 songs on one NES game with that good quality it'd take way more than 4mb to do, let alone 2. (Mind you, I think that would be possible seeing as multicarts with about 200 different games exist) I got the idea of that PCM limit from FamiTracker, seeing as it has a limit to prevent you from using PCM samples that are too long. Not entirely sure why that is, but whatever.

In any case, at least it's better than "GOAZHBUZTAZ!" :P

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« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2011, 02:45:27 PM »
just found this on ruten, its a multicart with a dance game on it that i've never seen before:
http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21012024495279
the gameplay doesnt look like the usual DDR setup, not sure if its original or a clone of something else. the song list seems to be mostly the same as the 2000 version of Street Dance. & the font on the menu looks like the one Nice Code uses sometimes

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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2011, 03:48:40 PM »
taizou
 
just found this on ruten, its a multicart with a dance game on it that i've never seen before:
http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21012024495279
the gameplay doesnt look like the usual DDR setup, not sure if its original or a clone of something else. the song list seems to be mostly the same as the 2000 version of Street Dance. & the font on the menu looks like the one Nice Code uses sometimes[/quote]I'm not sure that is a dance game, actually, but it's a rhythm game-- it looks very much like Samba De Amigo.

Edit: Yeah, definitely some sort of Samba De Amigo clone; note the little red and green dots emanating from the center toward the "O"s.
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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2011, 04:02:08 PM »
The graphics definitely look like the same style as Street Dance, and the font on the menu seems to be the same as Nice Code's games. Also, I'm no aficionado of dance music but I somehow doubt that "Blums" is spelled correctly, or "Street Seaor" for that matter.