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« on: July 28, 2017, 11:16:45 AM »
I'm surprised this isn't known already..

From http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/features/tracing-the-origins-of-gaming-in-india-8-bit-cricket-sega-and-cloning-640129

"To capitalise on this, Dugar and Handa invested heavily in their hardware business. In order to make it happen Dugar began getting all the necessities in order beginning with integration options. He says he personally oversaw every facet of the operation from the semi-conductor level to software for making the cartridges on which the game would be on. There was also a question of coding the game itself. For this, he enlisted a now defunct company in Xi'an, China called Profine.

"It was very tough for me to teach Chinese people to make a cricket game," says Dugar. "I was 80-90 days in China for one-and-a-half years. Finally we came up with the product." While coding and manufacturing was taking place, Dugar also had to record audio clips, which was done in India. "The game had commentary every time you hit a four or a six," says Dugar. "This was recorded here."

Cricket proved to be a huge success for Mitashi. To the point where Dugar sold it in other countries where the sport was popular.

"We sold 185,000 cartridges in this country in 2 months time at Rs. 225 a cartridge," he says. "I put my whole stake for cricket game, Rs. 3.5 crore for development as well as the raw material. I used my total capital on one product. The margin was okay but later the product gave me lot. At the time it was a huge amount of money, people were calling me crazy.""



This is not the same game as International Cricket, made by Beam Software in Australia.

In the same article, he references "Video", which was a bootleg nes game maker in India during the time -- this is them: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/noesis-industries-ltd/infocompanyhistory/companyid-7897.cms Here are some pics of their carts https://postimg.org/image/mholn7pfr/ https://postimg.org/image/67yfkberr/
He also brings up "Mega", which is referenced on the Famiclone article on the wiki.


There are 2 games on ebay ATM that have "cricket" on them: http://www.ebay.in/itm/8-Bit-Video-Game-Cassette-Cartridge-9-In-1-International-Cricket-1942-Contra-2-/322605297831?hash=item4b1cc630a7:g:MoEAAOSwXtRZcg2O and http://www.ebay.in/itm/8-Bit-Video-Game-Cassette-Cartridge-22-In-1-Cricket-2008-Sonic-6-long-jump-/322607428010?hash=item4b1ce6b1aa:g:We0AAOSwpIxZc3JC
I assume they're the same game, despite the games having different names. I'm going to try and purchase the first one; hopefully the seller will ship to Australia.


From the same article:
"In 1997 we thought of doing our own brand" and ""The success of Brian Lara Cricket and Sega was the inspiration," says Dugar. "
He is likely referencing this game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Lara_Cricket which came out in 1995.

From http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Game-for-success/articleshow/9628599.cms
"In 1999, there came a turning point when Dugar and Gada decided to launch their own electronic gaming consoles at low prices to increase penetration. And thus was born Mitashi, which in Japanese means 'to watch'. They imported low-priced consoles from China. They also rolled out games like Contra, Mario, Roadfighter and Pooyan played on an 8-bit cartridge. Sales were nothing to write home about.

Mitashi's big break came when they used their in-house R&D centre in Bhiwandi on the outskirts of Mumbai to develop a cricket game. That product, Dugar says, became an instant hit and sold one million pieces. In 2006, they launched virtual gaming like boxing, tennis and ping-pong, perhaps the first in the country to launch such interactive games. "

So all combined:
"I was 80-90 days in China for one-and-a-half years. Finally we came up with the product."
"In 1999, there came a turning point when Dugar and Gada decided to launch their own electronic gaming consoles"
"Mitashi's big break came when they used their in-house R&D centre in Bhiwandi on the outskirts of Mumbai to develop a cricket game. "
This game probably came out in 1999 or 2000. I'll contact the men in this article and ask them about exactly when it was made.


Does anybody know what company "Profine" is?

I've found some references online to the game, but nothing like a dump or any info:
https://www.spriters-resource.com/nes/internationalcricketbootleg/sheet/89714/
https://famicloneblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/25/the-power-joy-ks-2523b/
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=8&threadid=141555 (he says it''s for the 16bit sega but he is wrong)
http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=8143608/2/#post8061513 - "there was a Famicom port of the Mega Drive version of that game listed on Famicom no Tobira (which seems to have disappeared unfortunately) called International Cricket 2000, or something like "Brain Lara Crieket" on the label. which had baseball players on it. naturally. for the longest time I ignored it because I assumed it was just a hack of some licensed cricket game or other, but it actually isn't." ---- If taizou is reading this, "Lara" was indeed a famiclone from India: https://i.imgur.com/GoTMbVt.png
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 11:42:10 AM »
http://cah4e3.shedevr.org.ru/dumping_2014.php#210614

alt version is my dump fixed to run without multigame menu. it's full version... the single game version is a simple cut-down of the original
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 11:50:36 AM »
g0me3
Jul 28 2017, 11:42:10 AM
http://cah4e3.shedevr.org.ru/dumping_2014.php#210614

alt version is my dump fixed to run without multigame menu. it's full version... the single game version is a simple cut-down of the original[/quote]That's great, thanks. I suspect the 2000 version is the original.

Any clues as to who Profine is?

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2017, 11:58:46 AM »
nope

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2017, 02:19:14 PM »
The funny thing is, there actually is a licensed NES game called International Cricket. It probably isn't related to this one, though.

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2017, 08:04:15 PM »
Although I haven't heard the name 'Profine' before, being FC developers based in Xi'an they're almost certainly related to Dragon Co and/or Nice Code Software (aka Nature Color earlier on). The date would mark International Cricket as being developed somewhere around the demise of Dragon and the establishment of Nice Code, so probably at least some of the staff from those companies were involved.

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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2017, 02:09:17 AM »
Yeah I had seen those articles before, and I own this game on a multicart (was there ever actually a single cart release of it?  I've never seen one).  I had never mentioned anything of it though, since I was hoping to do a special about it in my book.

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2017, 04:01:13 AM »
Given that their game is called Lara Brian 2003 on one of the multicarts, I wonder if they have anything to do with the Lara Tennis Famiclone: http://www.evg2000.com/html/stand_Alone.htm
Probably not, since Lara TV Games seem to be from 1995: https://www.facebook.com/pg/LARA-TV-GAME-213801488667708/about/?ref=page_internal
"Lara TV Games" was definitely in India at some stage though, before the 2000s; some book I was reading references it being sold in Indian Bazaars.
I wonder why "Lara" is such a common name..
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2017, 04:10:58 AM »
taizou
Jul 28 2017, 08:04:15 PM
Although I haven't heard the name 'Profine' before, being FC developers based in Xi'an they're almost certainly related to Dragon Co and/or Nice Code Software (aka Nature Color earlier on). The date would mark International Cricket as being developed somewhere around the demise of Dragon and the establishment of Nice Code, so probably at least some of the staff from those companies were involved.[/quote]That's for sure, because the sound engine is the same as Dragon Co.'s sound engine, the composer was probably Li Meng, because he was the only Dragon Co composer.

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2017, 05:32:06 AM »
So I played the game, and couldn't find anything related to this;
"Dugar also had to record audio clips, which was done in India. "The game had commentary every time you hit a four or a six," says Dugar. "This was recorded here.""
There's music and sound effects, but no audio clips when hitting a four or a six. Can somebody check the rom to see if it contains any clips as Dugar mentioned in the article? This may suggest an original single cart exists and the x-in-1 ones are cut down versions of the original

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2017, 12:25:39 PM »
mmsc123
Jul 29 2017, 04:01:13 AM
Given that their game is called Lara Brian 2003 on one of the multicarts, I wonder if they have anything to do with the Lara Tennis Famiclone: http://www.evg2000.com/html/stand_Alone.htm
Probably not, since Lara TV Games seem to be from 1995: https://www.facebook.com/pg/LARA-TV-GAME-213801488667708/about/?ref=page_internal
"Lara TV Games" was definitely in India at some stage though, before the 2000s; some book I was reading references it being sold in Indian Bazaars.
I wonder why "Lara" is such a common name..[/quote]It's a clone of Brian Lara Cricket for the Mega Drive, hence the "Brian Lara 2003" name- I don't think Lara TV Games is especially related.

I do recall seeing a single cart version a long time ago but I don't think it was the original Mitashi release, I have no idea how it was originally released in India or if that version has the voice samples or not.. I guess it's possible the samples were recorded but dropped from the final game due to technical or ROM size restrictions.

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2017, 12:53:07 PM »
taizou
Jul 29 2017, 12:25:39 PM
mmsc123
Jul 29 2017, 04:01:13 AM
Given that their game is called Lara Brian 2003 on one of the multicarts, I wonder if they have anything to do with the Lara Tennis Famiclone: http://www.evg2000.com/html/stand_Alone.htm
Probably not, since Lara TV Games seem to be from 1995: https://www.facebook.com/pg/LARA-TV-GAME-213801488667708/about/?ref=page_internal
"Lara TV Games" was definitely in India at some stage though, before the 2000s; some book I was reading references it being sold in Indian Bazaars.
I wonder why "Lara" is such a common name..[/quote]It's a clone of Brian Lara Cricket for the Mega Drive, hence the "Brian Lara 2003" name- I don't think Lara TV Games is especially related.

I do recall seeing a single cart version a long time ago but I don't think it was the original Mitashi release, I have no idea how it was originally released in India or if that version has the voice samples or not.. I guess it's possible the samples were recorded but dropped from the final game due to technical or ROM size restrictions.[/quote]I agree that they're likely unrelated, however I do find it slightly amusing.

Also, I didn't realise it was a straight clone of the Sega game; not surprising I guess, but still interesting nonetheless.

Here is a phd thesis that talks about the Lara TV Games btw: https://air.unimi.it/retrieve/handle/2434/250694/342234/phd_unimi_R09460.pdf (also talks about the official Samurai, but nevermind that)
"Their innovation rests in finding cheap body parts in China and then creating the plastic cover locally,in different shapes and colours"

Unfortunately that pic I linked before, https://imgur.com/GoTMbVt , is wrong, since Lara TV Games came out after 1995.. The book says "in the early days" :(

As stated, I'm currently in the process of contacting the guys from Mitashi, so hopefully they'll be able to answer some questions about the game. The only reason I'm interested in it is due to the Indian market that I'm researching, and it's a cricket game for the NES (something that interests me due to being from Australia..)
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