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codeman38

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« on: September 26, 2010, 12:09:02 AM »
Ever encounter a retro game soundtrack that's just so amazingly over-the-top you can't believe it's actually playing on the hardware it's playing on? Well, this thread is for those.

Here's one to start things off: Ottifanten: Kommando Störtebeker for Game Boy Color. What, you've never heard of it? Neither had I. It's a rather boring licensed game based off of a German cartoon, and was only released in German-speaking countries. But the soundtrack was done by Stello Doussis, a guy who'd gotten his start in the Commodore 64 demoscene... and oh, does it show. I seriously had no idea some of these sounds could be produced on 8-bit Game Boy hardware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ2PjbKfpvs&p=7ACBE540FC2DF52D&index=1


Edit: And a second one: Super Adventure Island for SNES. Just keep in mind this is from an SNES game from 1992. Heck, I couldn't believe it in 1992.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5nVYcfylzc


Edit #2: Feel free to move this to the music forum if it fits better there, mods. I couldn't decide which one it went better in, since this is about music that was actually in retro games.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2010, 06:17:43 AM »
Lagrange Point on the Famicom, mainly because it used a VRC7 chip which made the music sound like it was being played on a Mega Drive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRQAG_jODy0&feature=related

The intro to Action 52. As horrible as the multicart itself is, the PCM music in the intro (which is ripped off from It Takes Two by Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock, BTW) is actually pretty clear for a NES game, certainly better than "GOASHTBUSHTAZ!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COxUuxJ8-rs&feature=related

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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2010, 07:25:23 AM »
i always felt that way about Sunsoft's later stuff on the NES. Its hard to believe something like Journey to Silius is coming from the same console as 99% of other NES games.
 I'm not sure if I'd count Lagrange Point though. since it basically bypasses the FC sound chip entirely :D

[and Super Adventure Island is awesome! i've never heard that one before]

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2010, 09:40:46 AM »
Summer Carnival '92: Recca and Gimmick! Nuff said.

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2010, 10:31:58 AM »
taizou
Sep 26 2010, 07:25:23 AM
i always felt that way about Sunsoft's later stuff on the NES. Its hard to believe something like Journey to Silius is coming from the same console as 99% of other NES games. [/quote]Gotta agree with you on that. Super Spy Hunter was always one of my favourite soundtracks on the NES.

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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2010, 12:31:58 PM »
taizou
Sep 26 2010, 07:25:23 AM
i always felt that way about Sunsoft's later stuff on the NES. Its hard to believe something like Journey to Silius is coming from the same console as 99% of other NES games. [/quote]Ooh, yes. Sunsoft did some really interesting stuff programming-wise-- they used the PCM for bass and the other channels for percussion, exactly the opposite of what most sound programmers did.

And the above-mentioned Gimmick is what happens when they combine this with an extra chip to provide more sound channels. It's awesome. :)


Also, back to the original post... how the heck did I not mention Tim & Geoff Follin? Seriously?

Geoff Follin did the Tom & Jerry game for NES, which somehow managed to outdo the SNES version soundtrack-wise. For those who haven't played it, bask in the awesomeness of the first level theme here.

As for Tim? Just take a listen to the title theme from Solstice. It starts off simple, and then goes into full Heavy Mithril mode. Or Treasure Master, which, for reasons known only to Tim, is also a cover of the Starsky & Hutch theme.

Oh, yeah, and the Follin brothers did not use the PCM channel at all. Seriously. They're just that good.

And that's not even getting into the Follins' SNES work, like Plok, Spider-Man & X-Men, and Rock 'n' Roll Racing. Most of the music in these games uses only 5 of the 8 sound channels on the SNES, leaving the rest free for sound effects.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2010, 01:33:47 PM »
Silver Surfer on the NES, (also by the Follin Bros. incidentally) this soundtrack deserved a far better game if you ask me. If I could play guitar I'd probably do a cover of this, but seeing as I can do MIDIs... :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGNSHNf-nlU&feature=related

Adventures of Bayou Billy on the NES, is it me or do many of the worst games get the best soundtracks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5WIOp69wqQ

Buzz & Waldog, despite ripping off the sound engine (among other things) the soundtrack itself is pretty awesome for the most part, aside from the music in the 2nd and 5th stages being way too repetitive. Now if only Someri Team did the same thing. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng_Ro-EPXpY

And I agree on Recca and Gimmick!. :P

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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2010, 06:22:52 PM »
Despite being a sucky game, Linus Spacehead's music is pretty awesome.

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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2010, 06:31:15 PM »
KingPepe
Sep 26 2010, 06:22:52 PM
Despite being a sucky game, Linus Spacehead's music is pretty awesome.[/quote]Ooh, yeah. All of Codemasters' NES stuff was like that, come to think of it-- it was all programmed by Commodore 64 veterans who knew how to push sound chips to their limits. Several of their games surprised me in the "wow, an NES can make that sound?" sort of way.

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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2010, 07:23:17 PM »
Rise of the Triad on the PC has by far some of the best MIDIs I've heard in anything on the system, (if you can call it that) even better than Doom and Duke Nukem 3D in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD2sX3T8Aus

Pitfall II for the Atari 2600, easily the best soundtrack on the system (although there's not much competition given that many of the games didn't have any music) back when Activision produced more than CoD and the same rhythm game over and over again. Pity the music ended up being bastardised in Super Pitfall on the NES.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rKW0lRTMaU&feature=related

Streets of Rage II on the Mega Drive, (or Genesis if you prefer although I personally don't) not entirely sure if you'd call it envelope-pushing but it's certainly my favourite soundtrack on the system and goes to show that Yuzo Koshiro knows how to utilise the MD's sound chip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVYx0OgWdbE

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 12:43:27 AM »
Anything Matt Furniss did on Genesis/Mega Drive. There's a reason my first Obscure Video Game Music posting on YouTube was from Daffy Duck in Hollywood. (Even better, I got a comment on it from the man himself!)

Seriously, compare the MD versions of Mortal Kombat and Mickey Mania to the SNES versions thereof. And Pitfall is equally good on either system, but I owned still own the MD version and I like its soundtrack better. :)

I especially love the percussion programming in Furniss' tunes. May be the most realistic drum samples I've heard on the system.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 12:51:27 PM »
Everything that the Follin brothers did, including the title music for this unreleased Mega Drive game! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqyEbu8cmMg

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2011, 01:45:16 PM »
Power Quest on the Game Boy Color, which actually surpasses V.Fame's stuff IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKz98yvMG5Y&feature=related

The Commodore 64 versions of Commando and Bionic Commando, which if you ask me sound 100 times better than the NES versions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrQuR1LHAVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1g0wGMj1gU

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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2011, 07:47:08 PM »
I think the best soundtrack on NES is Mike Tyson Punch Out's theme when the guy is running with the guy on the bike

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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2011, 09:25:21 AM »
I liked the original Doom's soundtrack a lot... I actually think that game has a lot to do with Metal being my favorite genre of music these days. The MIDI solo bits in between riffs and such are really amazing, even awesome guitarists sometimes struggle to play those licks.

That old NES game called Marble Madness... I remember those tracks vividly to this day, that was pretty killer music. Some of it actually sounded angry (map 3) or sad/manic (map4). Not envelope pushing, just very memorable tunes overall.

All of my favorites are stereoypical though, somewhat... SF2 sound track = sex, it rapes my ears when I hear poor version of the tracks in pirated games just because I love the original versions so much :p

The 1st sonic on the MD also has really sexy music, best Ive ever heard from the MD to this day.. Usually games on the MD grinded at me with those massively thick/clunky sounding tones, but this is an exception. :somari:

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