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« on: December 20, 2013, 06:47:54 PM »
Well, since you know I'm blocked, I'm having to you about here, to put it on there for me. I also found some information tieing together about this game and Vietnamese Crystal.

Well, basically this game seems to be a precursor to Vietnamese Crystal.

(video: {by DeliciousCinnamon} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3YvXmMyMA)

Here's some proof that these might just be (for sure) very obviously similar.

1. Both games are made in Hong Kong.
I cannot find full proof for this game actually being made in Hong Kong, but it is said to by them. For Vietnamese Crystal, it kinda seemed obvious. For when it says "ELF" (小精靈) {Google still thinks that these days.}, it means "Little Creature" in the Hong Kong Chinese Traditional variant. (Note: The other Chinese Traditional variant is for Taiwan, that being why there is a such thing as "Taiwanese".) Back to the point, "寵物小精靈" is actually the Hong Kong name for Pokemon, or Pocket Monsters, if you will. So good proof, that I would say that this would be helpful information on there. So we know now, that it was specifically made in Hong Kong, in China.

References:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/PokemonVietnameseCrystal
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_in_Greater_China

2. If you look, it is said that the company who did the translation for this game was HC Translations, but it uncertain if it was for Vietnamese Crystal. I assume so, because the "item" phrases are very similar. Some other phrases as well. I swear though, that they made the horrible translated Pokemon Green (which by the way that game is needed to be put on the Wiki, as well), but I could be mistaken. I could have sworn though, I saw that being said on RomHacking.net (Note: If you could find it, it might be very too, because there similar pages of it, being that others have tried to do the project, as well.) So for that particular Pokemon Green, I can't say that they made as well, for sure.

But yeah, I would greatly appreciate it, if you people could makes the changes / info, and the new pages for: "Pocket Monsters Green Version" (Pokemon Green Engrish), "Pocket Monsters Gold Version" (Pokemon Hong Kong Gold Version), and "Pocket Monsters Crystal Version" (Pokemon Vietnamese Crystal).

Side note for Pokemon Green Engrish: It has MANY reproduction cartridges, all of which not made by the same person. Usually a bootleg game has a good bit of both the original publisher's version of the cartridge, and a good bit other people make reproduction cartridges for it, also (usually later, after being released in China). But here, I guess it so popular, that most all the original cartridges are gone, in which case makes it harder to find the image of the original.

*later post*
I think this cartridge here might be the original, or at least the video/image that shows the inside. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0R2pMK9ZKQ
« Last Edit: December 20, 2013, 07:49:54 PM by Chowdit1 »

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 07:49:00 PM »
"HC Translations" sounds like a late-90s/early-2000s fan translation group, there were lots of them knocking out translations of Pokemon Gold & Silver in the time between the Japanese and US release.. mostly they were pretty low quality, PR Translations was kind of the original and best (and the originator of the whole "two letter"-Translations naming thing) but even in theirs a lot of the dialogue text was just made up.

I can't find any reference to HC Translations specifically though & it seems like an odd mix of fan-like stuff (using the font from the English 1st gen games and the correct English names for the Pokemon) with bootleg-like Engrish and Chinese names in the dialogue. I guess its possible that some bootleggers took an incomplete fan translation from somewhere and inserted their own translation of everything else to produce a roughly "complete" version.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2013, 07:49:31 PM by taizou »

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 07:50:09 PM »
So... Will this game have an article on BGW?

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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 07:51:30 PM »
taizou
Dec 20 2013, 07:49:00 PM
"HC Translations" sounds like a late-90s/early-2000s fan translation group, there were lots of them knocking out translations of Pokemon Gold & Silver in the time between the Japanese and US release.. mostly they were pretty low quality, PR Translations was kind of the original and best (and the originator of the whole "two letter"-Translations naming thing) but even in theirs a lot of the dialogue text was just made up.

I can't find any reference to HC Translations specifically though & it seems like an odd mix of fan-like stuff (using the font from the English 1st gen games and the correct English names for the Pokemon) with bootleg-like Engrish and Chinese names in the dialogue. I guess its possible that some bootleggers took an incomplete fan translation from somewhere and inserted their own translation of everything else to produce a roughly "complete" version.[/quote]Hmm... okay.
KAGE-008
Dec 20 2013, 07:50:09 PM
So... Will this game have an article on BGW?[/quote]I said that there in the post, I wanted you guys to do it, because I'm blocked temporarily.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2013, 07:52:41 PM by Chowdit1 »

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 07:56:16 PM »
Chowdit1
Dec 20 2013, 07:51:30 PM
I said that there in the post, I wanted you guys to do it, because I'm blocked temporarily. [/quote]I could do that, but since my iPad tends to refresh pages for no reason... Not doing it ATM.

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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2013, 07:31:05 PM »
At least with Vietnamese Crystal that might've deserved a mention due to its infamy but I doubt this deserves an article at all.

Also please use the BGW forum to post articles, not the console forums.