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codeman38

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« on: October 23, 2010, 12:44:34 AM »
So, on a whim, I decided to search for Waixing and Jungletac to see if the two were mentioned in the same place anywhere.

And aside from a page on the Bootleg Games wiki (woo!) and a few listings of plug-and-play famiclone manufacturers, I found this Chinese forum thread for C# help:
http://bbs.gameres.com/showthread.asp?threadid=41936

Note the post by 'mb' dated 2005-12-22. His e-mail address is at Waixing. His MSN Messenger account, on the other hand, is registered to a Jungletac address.

Interesting. Even if he didn't work at both of these companies at the same time, this definitely indicates that he left one and joined the other, at the very least. I'm guessing the MSN account was registered first, and then he moved to Waixing later, probably.

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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 05:29:55 AM »
Have you tried contacting him? I doubt it'd work, but you might as well. :P

BTW, one thing I find funny is how JungleTac seem to make pirated multicarts for their OneStation, including the typical first-gen Famicom games but they also include some larger games like Mighty Final Fight, Adventure Island II and even Sonic 3D Blast 5 for some crazy reason. (if I remember correctly, that one was on the 32M-99B cart) Not to mention, the intro screen on the carts has art clearly stolen from Super Mario Bros. 3 and the music in the menus is used in one of SNT's games. (and a remixed version in their Super Robot Wars game, I think) As far as I'm aware, Waixing and Trump Grand have never used anything other than their own games on multicarts.

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 11:12:02 AM »
Cheetahmen
Oct 23 2010, 05:29:55 AM
Have you tried contacting him? I doubt it'd work, but you might as well. :P[/quote]No, I didn't try - I'd rather leave that up to one of the posters here who knows more than a few words of Chinese, because I'm afraid I'll end up saying something like "my hovercraft is full of eels". Of course, I suppose I could just write in English... :)

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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 12:45:44 PM »
codeman38
Oct 23 2010, 11:12:02 AM
Cheetahmen
Oct 23 2010, 05:29:55 AM
Have you tried contacting him? I doubt it'd work, but you might as well. :P[/quote]
Of course, I suppose I could just write in English... :)[/quote]You could, but that'd be a pain in the arse if the other bloke can't. I'd do it, but I can't speak or write in Chinese myself so it'd be kind of pointless.

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 02:29:26 PM »
ah now thats interesting. especially because Jungletac doesnt seem to have done much of note since the Vii (I could be wrong, but their website was last updated pre-Vii so its kinda hard to tell). so maybe that guy was one of their main programmers? lots of Waixing's famiclone/etc games are (c) 2005, he probably had something to do with those.

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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 02:34:48 PM »
taizou
Oct 23 2010, 02:29:26 PM
so maybe that guy was one of their main programmers? lots of Waixing's famiclone/etc games are (c) 2005, he probably had something to do with those.[/quote]You could be right, but I'm not entirely sure about the copyright dates myself. Desert Storm as a copyright date of 2005 on those Famiclones but it originally came out in 1996, I believe.

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 02:58:29 PM »
Desert Storm was registered in 1996 though, lots of the simpler games were actually registered in 2005. they probably just put Desert Storm (usually as the first game) on their famiclones because its better than most of the newer stuff..

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2015, 08:33:26 PM »
Actually while jungletac did set up with waixing. I did not notice the connection until i used their emuvt emulator.

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2017, 09:35:03 PM »
Time to necrobump this topic from the holy afterlife that I thought this thread was going to get sent to, a.k.a. death! :pandahappy:

Anyways, about the Jungletac and Waixing connections; You weren't all completely wrong. 2 years ago, someone posted a video of some sort of a KT-0001 multicart with minigames copyrighted by JungleTac.
Some of the games are completely new, while some others... Well, see for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0nyO8B_gjI

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2017, 07:25:01 PM »
Oh yeah so 6 years later I actually know some stuff about this haha. Basically a few staff went from Waixing to Ruanxin (the developer for Hitek), probably did a bit more work for Waixing on their GBC games, then to Jungletac after that. That message board poster was one of them.

All this activity was based around Fuzhou which was kinda the birthplace of Chinese console game development, having previously been home to Yanshan Software (the head of YS went over to Waixing as a supervisor on their early stuff)



That leaves that "Handymax" cart as kind of an anomaly though. It's dated 2003 yet the games are way more simplistic and crappy than anything Jungletac or Waixing were doing at the time, so I doubt it had anything to do with that aforementioned team. It really comes off more like someone's first homebrew project than the work of anyone with experience in the industry.

There's also a plug & play system called the TV Play Power by TechnoSource with a similar set of games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4FKDd6AQCk / http://www.amazon.in/Play-Power-Video-Built-Games/dp/B00A2XM6HA
 The design and name are similar to the first version Intellivision plug & play which was also sold by TechnoSource, although the Intellivision ports on that were developed by Nice Code.

My hunch is that maybe those games were developed by some other external team (I think by 03 Waixing wasn't doing much internal development anyway, they preferred to contract stuff out by that point) who then licensed them out to Jungletac, Waixing and whoever the OEM of the Techno Source one was. (Hell, it's possible Jungletac even rejected them, considering I've never seen them on an actual Jungletac plug & play)

The Waixing-released versions with better graphics and something resembling music might have been overhauled by the original developers or by Waixing themselves (and/or another subcontractor), given their track record of modifying Nice Code, Inventor and other companies' games when re-releasing them on plug-n-plays.
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