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Pirate Talk / Your favorite and least favorite pirate music(s)
« on: August 09, 2010, 04:33:55 PM »
MLX
Aug 9 2010, 03:59:40 PM
Continuing mine:
Earthworm Jim 3 - main theme (I guess Cheetahmen will hate me)[/quote]Not unless you replaced Earthworm Jim 3 with Somari. :P
Anyway, continuing with mah list:
Best (in my opinion):
Street Fighter IV - Main theme, character select screen, Mushashi's/Conbon's stage and ending
Fighting Hero - Secret Agent Man
Shisen Mahjong 2/Garou Densetsu Special - Cutscenes/Tung Fu Rue's stage
Donkey Kong Country 4 - Intro and underwater levels
Aladdin - Main theme and bonus rounds
Harry's Legend/Titenic/whatever - Level select/cutscenes
Tekken 3 Special - Heihachi's theme
The music from Super Game's games

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Game Boy / Yong Yong
« on: August 09, 2010, 04:03:55 PM »
taizou
Aug 9 2010, 04:00:06 PM
whereas Thunder Blast Man just seems to be built off Rockman 8's engine, complete with shitty Yong Yong music.[/quote]Not so sure about that. After all, Thunder Blast Man could've been made first and then Yong Yong could have taken the engine and used it for their games.

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Game Boy / Yong Yong
« on: August 09, 2010, 02:54:40 PM »
KingPepe
Aug 9 2010, 02:49:34 PM
...but what explains the Yong Yong part? Was EHY involved with Yong Yong in their other games? (Aside from Thunder Blast Man)[/quote]Not sure. Are there are any credits in Thunder Blast Man or does it just send you back to the map screen when you beat the game? Mind you, the latter happens in Rockman 8.

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Pirate Talk / Your favorite and least favorite pirate music(s)
« on: August 09, 2010, 02:41:53 PM »
Best:
Rockman X3
Lion King 5
Player select screen in Street Fighter II and Street Fighter Zero 2 '97
31-in-1 menu screen if that counts
10000000-in-1 menu screen

Worst:
Somari
Pokémon Gold

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Game Boy / Yong Yong
« on: August 09, 2010, 02:21:45 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised. Yong Yong's games are pretty similar to Thunder Blast Man if you ask me.

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Game Boy / Yong Yong
« on: August 09, 2010, 12:50:50 PM »
I was just looking through the roms of numerous Yong Yong games and I noticed the coding before the game name is almost identical between them. As well as this, Thunder Blast Man's is the same. Would that suggest that Yong Yong coded Thunder Blast Man or stole the engine from it? Not only this, but the rom of Rockman 8 calls it Rockman 99 in the rom, Sonic 3D Blast 5 is called Sonic 5 and Thunder Blast Man is called Thunder Blaster HY.

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1993-1999 / Someri Team still around after 1994...?
« on: August 09, 2010, 10:42:48 AM »
I'm pretty sure the names were overwritten from MKII Special's because in that game there 14 characters while Garou Densetsu Special has 8 and there are 6 leftover names from the former. Guess that means Someri built Garou Densetsu Special off MKII Special. Also, where did people come up with the idea that Hummer did MKII Special?

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2000-present / Abab Soft
« on: August 09, 2010, 09:37:58 AM »
Crash Nicker
Aug 9 2010, 08:09:48 AM
Quote:
 
some things that should have been red were recoloured blue in those because of the changed colour palette.[/quote]
Offtopic... They COULD rehack the enemies so they would use Sonic's shoes's palette... couldn't they, theoretically?[/quote]Probably, but I'd say it's more likely that they made the character red to rectify the colouring issues in the Sonic hacks. BTW, if Titenic came first than shouldn't we change the Harry's Legend page on BootlegGames Wiki to that? Also, if that text was in the MK4 rom then that'd mean it also came after Titenic.

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2000-present / Abab Soft
« on: August 06, 2010, 03:27:10 PM »
I think it would be a hack of Somari. It's doubtful that they'd rewrite the engine, and it'd make sense for the character to be red seeing as in the Sonic hacks, some things that should have been red were recoloured blue in those because of the changed colour palette.

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2000-present / Abab Soft
« on: August 06, 2010, 09:34:05 AM »
I don't fully understand that. If Jack Yeh went off to Cony Soft then why are their games so much worse than SFII/MFII?

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2000-present / Abab Soft
« on: August 06, 2010, 08:33:55 AM »
taizou
Aug 5 2010, 11:46:00 PM
Yeah, its really odd. Either Rinco returned to the video game business after 10 years to publish some weird multicart, or ABABsoft just stole it. but I have no idea why they'd do that. hmm.
& heres something interesting:
http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=4329.0
i didn't make the connection until now, but this 15 in 1 cart is probably by ABABsoft too. & it has lots more links to hummer/someri.

games are:
1. Street Fighter IV
2. The Hummer(!) - Somari hack (probably - its described as a Sonic hack)
3 & 9-15. "single screen game like Bubble Bobble; you're a Felix-like cat and you have to get from one side of the screen to the other without dying, then advance to the next level, which adds enemies and obstacles." - sounds very much like Panda Adventure
4. War - presumably the same game as the one on ABAB's multi. uses Earthworm Jim 3 graphics.
5-6. Jack & Rose - Titanic themed Harrys Legend hacks. Probably "Titenic".
7-8. The Duck & The Egg - Duck Hunt clones, they lay eggs in the latter
some screens here:
http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21001299047544

one thing i noticed is that none of these ABAB carts include JY-published Hummer games, or anything significant derived from them (except that sand from Aladdin) - its all either early Someri Team stuff or the later related games released by NT etc. which does seem to lend weight to that whole theory that Hummer Team split at some point.[/quote]In other words, some of them started making games for Taiwan Shin-Shin and NT (and are probably the original Someri Team) and the rest made games for JY?
Anyway, it's a bit weird that the Somari hack is called "The Hummer," obviously a reference to Hummer Team in the same way that Family Kid is named after Family TSI Ltd. Also, the logo on the title screen kind of reminds me of Street Fighter IV, which is also on there. Presumably the staff who worked at Abab Soft were originally Gouder Co., Someri Team and possibly Yoko Soft.
BTW, the drawing of "the Hummer" suggests he might be based off Sonic the Hedgehog. Of course, it'd help to see a gameplay screenshot to see if anything else was changed.

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2000-present / Abab Soft
« on: August 05, 2010, 11:40:57 PM »
taizou
Aug 5 2010, 11:34:50 PM
well I'll be damned. Rinco (=Ramar INternational CO.) is the publisher of The Dragon, that's their logo as it appears in that game. No idea what it's doing there.[/quote]I thought I heard that name somewhere. Maybe it was an Arabian copy of the multicart or something, although it could just be the publisher in general which is rather odd, to put it simply.

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2000-present / Abab Soft
« on: August 05, 2010, 11:23:53 PM »
Strangely, I looked through the tiles of Panda Adventure and I found some tiles which when put together made a box saying "Rinco." No idea who or what that is.

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2000-present / Abab Soft
« on: August 05, 2010, 10:59:45 PM »
I just realised, Panda Adventure actually uses graphics from Aladdin by Hummer Team. Could be presumed that someone who worked at Hummer Team made Abab Soft, took the sound engine and programmed the games themselves.

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2000-present / Abab Soft
« on: August 05, 2010, 10:35:29 PM »
taizou
Aug 5 2010, 10:08:56 PM
ooh. nice find. I noticed the same thing about the Panda Adventure/menu music - it does sound kinda like the same engine as Hummer etc, just not the same person using it.

btw this is the one image thats broken on the latest archived copy of their website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040404210322/http://www.ababsoft.com/images/4in1B.jpg

& I'm sure I've seen "Space Shuttle Exploration" somewhere else. but I can't think where. famiclone maybe?[/quote]I presume on that image, "War" is some game created by them and Golden Axe IV is that hack of Astayanax. I suspect Abab are connected with Hummer in some way or another, is it possible that Titenic and Rings are by Hummer? After all, they could have made Harry's Legend. As for Space Shuttle Exploration, I've got no idea.

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