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Other Pirates / Game King Stuff
« on: January 26, 2018, 10:01:49 AM »
Ninjinister
Jan 13 2018, 05:17:40 PM
forgotusername
Jan 13 2018, 12:45:55 AM
Another thing - those 1.8" handheld games. They HAVE to have some sort of Game King/Time Top connection. Look at the game list - Risk-King, The Wall, and King Boxing are ALL Game King titles. 2012 is actually Game King's 2003, and I know I've seen Tank on one of these before too. Judging by the newer Game King-esqe things mentioned here with Angry Birds clones and whatnot, its undoubted they're connected somehow.[/quote]

Yeah the Bootleg Games Wiki says King Boxing is a Game King game but that was literally the first time I've seen that.[/quote]There are no Game King games with those names that I'm aware of. I have a full spreadsheet of every game ever documented. About the closest is 'Risker' but that's actually a Spy Hunter clone on GK. The games use a similar dot matrix technology for sure and are maybe programmed using the same method but they are more 'GK style' than ports.

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Other Pirates / Game King Stuff
« on: August 03, 2017, 11:42:55 AM »
I just got hold of 4-in-1 Vol 13 today. It includes the games Might (listed as "migat" on the cart), Brains, Catman (Listed as "Garman on the cart") and Armada.

It's a pretty good multicart. Might is a Contra style game that uses the Soldier engine but with more platforming and a slightly easier difficulty. Armada is the standard timetop vertical shooter that appears in some form on nearly every cart. Catman is another contra-esque game but it's not as good as Might and is extremely difficult due to large sprites.

Brains is the real oddity on this cart. It seems to be an original platform puzzle game where you have to navigate four screens (viewable via a map) collecting "hostages" and avoiding enemies. I've only made it up to stage 3 where you have to push boulders to  assist you. I hope there are more stages as it seems like a fun original title (unless someone can point me to something its cloning).

Does anyone have the "story briefs" for the games on this cart? Sadly I didn't get this with the box and instructions but I'd like to include these "briefs" when I review them on my site.

Another thing I found of interest was this:

http://s663.photobucket.com/user/sickertus/Game%20King/story

This guy seems to have some Gameking III games that were previously unknown...however I was struck by his description of "Adventure"

"possibly one of the worst games put out by timetop. Slow refresh rate platformer with unrelenting AI. Caveman with a club vs. giant pigeons and snakes."

This sounds VERY MUCH like the game "Stone Age" included on the LTPS Handygame and on the plug and play that FCGamer highlighted on his blog.

Also there is a Gameking III game called "Urgent Action" which is also the name of one of the games on the LTPS Handygame cartridges. The same game?
It doesn't seem likely since the systems have different screen resolutions but it does have me intriqued

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Other Pirates / Game King Stuff
« on: August 02, 2017, 01:34:40 PM »
Ninjinister
Aug 1 2017, 02:11:47 AM
So there's a LTPS Handy Game like the one in Stuart Ashen's video above, which is more or less a Game King, and the one that's a Famiclone that is the one being discussed most recently...?

I'm only finding the latter for sale anywhere.[/quote]Yes it is rather odd that both of the consoles have the same name...Perhaps it means something to people in Guangzhou. I used to live there so I ought to have asked. ^_^

Even more confusingly though, I recently obtained this:

http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/the-banyan-tree/well-this-is-odda-clone-of-a-gameking

It appears to have nothing to do with Timetop, yet hilariously it's attempting to clone the Gameking outer casing! Like someone might be at the market and be like "wow, a GAMEKING!" then feel really cheated and disappointed later...   >;)

Sadly, despite being pretty certain that its "cartridges" are basically just activating different built in games, I only got one of them with mine and haven't been able to manually get the other games to load up to see what they are.

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Other Pirates / Game King Stuff
« on: July 28, 2017, 01:19:07 PM »
taizou
Jul 27 2017, 03:43:23 PM
The hardware is some kind of extended Famiclone like VT03 with upgraded graphics over the original, not sure exactly which type though. But yeah I'm sure Timetop (or whoever they contracted to develop the games) weren't the greatest FC programmers in any case.

The games on the cartridges are completely identical to the originals, there were a couple internet-sourced hacks and translations lurking in there but nothing copyright-dodging at all. It's possible those cartridges were never distributed in France though, both of mine came from China (one packed in with the console and one sold separately). Presumably the reason they made original games to build into the system rather than simply ripping off FC stuff was so they could sell the console to copyright-conscious markets in a 'legal' state without any pirated software.[/quote]My unit came from France and the box does indicate it came with two separate cartridges (plus there is a space for them inside), they were only not included because the ebay seller I bought from had lost them.

It does seem odd or unlikely that they would have contained unaltered Famicom games in French territories or perhaps they were just happy to take the risk by not advertising the content up front.

I had assumed they were the only such cartridges produced (kind of like some of the current handhelds you get on Aliexpress have random cartridges with them) but from what you are saying it sounds as if Timetop actually made more for sale independently in China...interesting

Does any information exist on who made games for Timetop? I genuinely enjoy their efforts for the GameKing although from GKIII onwards they seemed to lose touch with what made those games quirky fun. The opening logo montage for the GKIII has a bombastic exploding planet that's kind of a warning as to the direction they had decided to pursue!

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Other Pirates / Game King Stuff
« on: July 26, 2017, 03:20:15 AM »
taizou
Jul 25 2017, 06:49:00 PM
I have a couple of the cartridges, they just contain NES/FC games - nothing Timetop-original.
(It's possible they also released carts with original games, but I haven't seen any)[/quote]

Thanks for the info. I guess that confirms that the hardware is a famiclone, but the built in games don't seem to run smoothly like Famicom games would and the first game, Magic, seems to look a lot better than most Famicom games do. Perhaps Timetop were just very ineffectual Famicom programmers?

Were the games on the cartridge re-skinned in some way to avoid copyrights? I ask as the Handygame was commercially sold in the French market by the looks of the packaging.

It makes me wonder why they went to the bother of designing their own (poor) Contra clone if they could have just re-skinned the original game...

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Other Pirates / Game King Stuff
« on: July 25, 2017, 09:37:22 AM »
I recently got hold of the GameKing successor, the Timetop LTPS Handygame. Unfortunately it didn't come with any cartridges so I had to make do with the built in games.

I've posted a full review of the unit on my website here:

http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/timetop-ltps-handygame-gm-228.html

I'd really like to know some details of the game cartridges that came with it. Did anyone else get one of these and can you tell me anything about the games that came on them?

I'd also like to know if 'Adventure' is the same as the GKIII game or something different if anyone has any idea.

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Other Pirates / Game King Stuff
« on: May 29, 2017, 03:46:34 AM »
Ninjinister
May 28 2017, 04:39:50 PM
Obsolete_Worlds
May 28 2017, 08:13:44 AM
Some of the boxes have it written on the front or spine, others don't. I'm planning a big update to the Gameking section of my website soon which I hope will fully document all titles and models available and their serial numbers. My research has led me to believe that there are 90 individual titles available in total (including multi cart exclusives) and so far I have 63 of them and am slowly working my way through reviewing them all.[/quote]Blinkin' hell, I don't have boxes with any of my multi-carts :/[/quote]

I believe that at least a handful of the multicarts don't have boxes as they were bundled exclusively with the GameKing units themselves. However there are 21 volumes of multicarts in total and I believe 17 individual releases (some of which appear on the multicarts) plus the built in 3.

I recently obtained the GameKing 3 and while its nice to have such a holy grail it has lost a lot of the orignal's charm. From the moment the re-vamped Timetop logo explodes you sense that the simplicity of the original GK is lost and the built in shooter Galaxy Crisis is equally over the top.

I've never played any of the fabled Gameking 3 carts so can't comment on them but would be interested to hear from anyone who has.

Playing the original GK games in colour isn't really all its cracked up to be either as they are often given gaudy colour pallettes that make the action indistinguishable.

My favourite GK is still the original. It has a nice screen and d pad. I really only use the backlit GK2 for capturing screenshots for my reviews.

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Other Pirates / Game King Stuff
« on: May 28, 2017, 08:13:44 AM »
Ninjinister
Apr 26 2017, 04:01:25 AM
Obsolete_Worlds
Apr 10 2017, 08:21:28 AM
Linkrulezall
Feb 16 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Ninjinister
Feb 6 2017, 11:47:04 PM
Are there any 1-on-1 fighters available for it?[/quote]Not that I know of, the closest you're gonna get is probably Street Hero or one of its variants. However, I have seen a one-on-one fighter called King Boxing on some cheap-o handheld which seems to use cloned Game King hardware.[/quote]Hi guys,

Just saw your post about this. There is actually a 1-1 fighting game for the Game King named 'Fighter'. It's a surprisingly detailed Street Fighter 2 clone complete with voice samples and special moves!

I reviewed it (with screenshots) on my blog here: http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/fighter.html

It's available only on Volume 12 of the 4-1 carts.

Hope that's helpful to you.  :dance: [/quote]Ohhh holy snapple that is awesome! I gotta find that!

How do you tell what volume each 4-in-1 is? I can't find an indicator anywhere.[/quote]

Some of the boxes have it written on the front or spine, others don't. I'm planning a big update to the Gameking section of my website soon which I hope will fully document all titles and models available and their serial numbers. My research has led me to believe that there are 90 individual titles available in total (including multi cart exclusives) and so far I have 63 of them and am slowly working my way through reviewing them all.

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Other Pirates / Game King Stuff
« on: April 10, 2017, 08:21:28 AM »
Linkrulezall
Feb 16 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Ninjinister
Feb 6 2017, 11:47:04 PM
Are there any 1-on-1 fighters available for it?[/quote]Not that I know of, the closest you're gonna get is probably Street Hero or one of its variants. However, I have seen a one-on-one fighter called King Boxing on some cheap-o handheld which seems to use cloned Game King hardware.[/quote]Hi guys,

Just saw your post about this. There is actually a 1-1 fighting game for the Game King named 'Fighter'. It's a surprisingly detailed Street Fighter 2 clone complete with voice samples and special moves!

I reviewed it (with screenshots) on my blog here: http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/fighter.html

It's available only on Volume 12 of the 4-1 carts.

Hope that's helpful to you.  :dance:

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