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Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 10, 2013, 08:45:12 PM
So a few people here might have seen pictures floating around the internet of the box art for a "Super Mario DX" game for Game Boy Advance. I think the consensus had been that it was either a PocketNES cart, or possibly the original Mario DX for GBC inside a GBA case.

Nope. Turns out it's neither of those. Someone has posted a video of it on YouTube...and, well, suffice it to say, it's a GBA-native platformer made by Sintax.

Yes, folks: it's that engine again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggKYArHtjI8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggKYArHtjI8)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 10, 2013, 08:48:35 PM
:O I've seen that one on eBay twice too! I can't believe it was one of them again, I would've bought it. :\
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 10, 2013, 09:09:26 PM
And doing some Googling, I see 64scener discovered this one a while back as well-- doesn't seem to be linked from anywhere on his site that I can find, curiously enough:

http://www.64scener.com/gba/pir-mariodx.htm (http://www.64scener.com/gba/pir-mariodx.htm)

Also, guess what Aladdin 2 for GBA is? Even the freaking manual is the same.

http://www.64scener.com/gba/pir-alad2.htm (http://www.64scener.com/gba/pir-alad2.htm)

Edit: It's linked from this blog archive page (http://www.64scener.com/archive.php?page=2&month=october&year=2005), which is how Google found it. I should probably do an archive binge to see if he's posted about any more of these...
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Pepper-98 on March 10, 2013, 09:18:33 PM
I like how these games not only re-use the same game engine, but the same audio and everything.  This is somehow lazier than most other bootlegs out there (even compared to stuff by Color Dreams and Makon, to an extent.)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 11, 2013, 03:52:59 AM
How many are there known now? Let's see:
Digimon Adventure,
Crash Bandicoot III,
Crash Bandicoot IV,
Rayman IV,
Spiderman III,
Harry Potter IV (Seen on eBay, most likely one of these),
Lord of the Rings IV,
Sonic 3 Fighter Sonic,
Mario DX,
Aladdin 2.

10 games! Oh god, Sintax is catching up with Makons library here!
Oh there's a 'Super Aladdin II' on eBay. Could it be a rebranded Aladdin 2? Or is it a PocketNES cart? I think Azathoth had one on eBay..
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 11, 2013, 09:09:09 AM
hmm, these things seem to have ID numbers, could be an indication of how many are out there - Mario DX is E12-U8 and Aladdin 2 is E12-U10. (Aladdin's is only on the back of the manual though). anyone have any more?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Azathoth on March 11, 2013, 09:20:08 AM
Super Aladdin II is the PocketNES hack whereas Aladdin 2 is the one in question. Looks like the one on ebay right now is the PocketNES one.

With Crash Bandicoot, III is the platformer and IV is the PocketNES version... unless there's 2 versions of part IV floating around. Same with Spiderman, III is the platformer and IV is PocketNES
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Picrodus on March 11, 2013, 10:12:48 AM
Is it this aladdin 2 cart or a different one?  http://www.r4-3ds.net/nintendo-games/aladdin-for-ndsl-nds-gba-sp-game-boy.html (http://www.r4-3ds.net/nintendo-games/aladdin-for-ndsl-nds-gba-sp-game-boy.html) go down towards the bottom. Or is this just the pocketnes again?
Oh you guys were talking about this pocketnes one. The one I found was just plain old aladdin http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Disney-Aladdin-2-Gameboy-Advance-GBA-/281071108493?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item417124c18d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Disney-Aladdin-2-Gameboy-Advance-GBA-/281071108493?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item417124c18d)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 11, 2013, 04:53:12 PM
Yeah, that's the eBay auction I saw. I bet that seller bought it off Azathoth and is trying to get a profit. >_>
Oh god, that ID code seems too similar to one on a cart I've seen called 'Mariobars 2'
Here. (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mario-gameboy-gba-rare-/290837812791?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item43b748d637&nma=true&si=GFQjH8mLHV2dHlG%252B6uC%252BmkOY2J8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)

..Maybe that was another Mario one?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 11, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
Checked my Lord of the Rings IV, it says E12-U15.. does that mean there's at least 15 of these things?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 11, 2013, 07:12:40 PM
Well  I think they've beaten Makon now. D:
I seriously wonder though, who made these craptacular bootlegs? It's too good for Makon, too lazy for Sintax. Who else in the industry could it be?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 11, 2013, 07:35:43 PM
Definitely Sintax I think. Even the manual pages and warning text on those 64scener pages look Sintaxy. They did reuse some of their GBC engines a *lot*, so it's not exactly unprecedented - they probably had no idea how to code a GBA game from scratch so they just ended up using that same engine over and over again.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: FoxMan on March 12, 2013, 01:41:15 AM
Oh wow, this is hilarious. Yet another one of these games using the EXACT same engine has surfaced.

Also, speaking of these peeps who keep making the same crap, wasn't there an Ice Age game made by these people as well?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 12, 2013, 06:53:23 AM
For the GBC yeah (two in fact, but the only difference seems to be the music). I don't know of one for the GBA, but that doesn't mean there isn't one...
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 12, 2013, 05:25:22 PM
Found another shitty Sintax title on eBay. Going to get it ASAP. (no links sorry. I'm afraid it'll go quicker if I link it. It's a bit like the Aladdin 2 concept though.)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Picrodus on March 12, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
Azathoth
Mar 11 2013, 09:20:08 AM
Super Aladdin II is the PocketNES hack whereas Aladdin 2 is the one in question. Looks like the one on ebay right now is the PocketNES one.

With Crash Bandicoot, III is the platformer and IV is the PocketNES version... unless there's 2 versions of part IV floating around. Same with Spiderman, III is the platformer and IV is PocketNES[/quote]Wait so Crash Bandicoot IV is a pocketnes game? I saw it on one of those wholesale game boy lists.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 12, 2013, 06:08:09 PM
Yep! All those wholesale things have mostly PocketNES crap sadly. :(
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 12, 2013, 09:42:42 PM
The Crash game that 64scener recorded footage of is "Crash Bandicoot IV" according to the title screen. Is there actually a Crash III as well?
taizou
Mar 11 2013, 07:35:43 PM
Definitely Sintax I think. Even the manual pages and warning text on those 64scener pages look Sintaxy. They did reuse some of their GBC engines a *lot*, so it's not exactly unprecedented - they probably had no idea how to code a GBA game from scratch so they just ended up using that same engine over and over again.[/quote]...I just realized something that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that these are Sintax's work.

The instruction manuals for these GBA games contain the phrase "pease protect your eyes, avoid playing too long time".

That exact same wording--typo and all--appears on many of Sintax's GBC boxes. (See, for instance, True Three Kingdoms (http://64scener.com/gb/unl-3king.htm).)
Found this picture (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9743/p1011105k.jpg) in this Polish forum thread (http://wodzislaw.mojeforum.net/temat-vt1797.html) showing a Harry Potter IV cart.

Yep, looks like it is indeed one of these-- the product code is E12-U4.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Linkrulezall on March 12, 2013, 11:25:52 PM
Oh, Sintax. I remember when they used to be a respectable developer, before they started just rehashing that damn GBA platformer over and over and over and apply directly to the forehead and over.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Barver on March 12, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
None of their GBC works really made me think of them as too respectable =p Well, some things like that Harry shooter, the Donkey Kong sidescroller and whatever else I may be forgetting might make them seem nice. But the majority of their GBC stuff is exactly the same, just rehashing the same engines with crappy gameplay over and over again. So many of their GBC games use that generic platformer engine you see in Lion King III and Crash Bandicoot.

Next time I go home I might bring back all my Sintax stuff and just sell it lol
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 12, 2013, 11:58:47 PM
Seems like Sintax started off doing fairly well when they had BBD developing for them... but the stuff they started releasing after BBD split up with them was a harbinger of what was to come on GBA.

Pokemon Leaf Green, Pokemon Platinum, and Super Sonik II, anyone? And I swear there was yet another game based on that same engine as well.

Edit: Ah, that was the other one--The Incredibles!
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 13, 2013, 04:00:17 AM
codeman38
Mar 12 2013, 09:42:42 PM
The Crash game that 64scener recorded footage of is "Crash Bandicoot IV" according to the title screen. Is there actually a Crash III as well?
Found this picture (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9743/p1011105k.jpg) in this Polish forum thread (http://wodzislaw.mojeforum.net/temat-vt1797.html) showing a Harry Potter IV cart.

Yep, looks like it is indeed one of these-- the product code is E12-U4.[/quote]Yup, this is Crash III: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwJEK7d4O3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwJEK7d4O3I)


And here's the boxart for Harry Potter IV, which I found about 3 months ago (the thing on the right of Harry is bloody creepy):

Spoiler: click to toggle


*sigh* Everytime I see a new pirate that I actually want I always get outbid or the bid doesn't go through! >_>
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Awesome Panda on March 13, 2013, 05:59:27 AM
In other words, Sintax is basically the EA Sports of platformers. :P
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 13, 2013, 07:09:05 AM
codeman38
Mar 12 2013, 11:58:47 PM
Seems like Sintax started off doing fairly well when they had BBD developing for them... but the stuff they started releasing after BBD split up with them was a harbinger of what was to come on GBA.

Pokemon Leaf Green, Pokemon Platinum, and Super Sonik II, anyone? And I swear there was yet another game based on that same engine as well.

Edit: Ah, that was the other one--The Incredibles![/quote]Oh there's at least one more on that engine (I have it and I'm not even sure what it's based on.. some anime or PC game maybe? it looks really bad anyway).

The weird thing is that Castlevania DX was a later one but it's actually quite well-made, and definitely holds its own against the BBD stuff - the common ROM is a cut-down demo and none of the rooms link up properly, but I have another game thats a hack of it and it's actually a reasonable attempt at a Metroidvania style thing on the GBC. They even stole some appropriate music for a change.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Picrodus on March 14, 2013, 12:59:49 AM
I guess all these game used to be available on game-boy.ru but the site seems to be down. You can see the box art though from a whole bunch of the games we were talking about right here. http://forums.lostlevels.org/viewtopic.php?p=24349 (http://forums.lostlevels.org/viewtopic.php?p=24349) Is there any more Russian game boy sites like that? From doing a quick Google search I couldn't find anything.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Azathoth on March 14, 2013, 01:18:33 AM
My mistake, seems there's 2 Crash Bandicoot IV's. Here's the PocketNES one I had.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img163/1922/crash4k.jpg)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 14, 2013, 08:38:19 AM
Picrodus
Mar 14 2013, 12:59:49 AM
I guess all these game used to be available on game-boy.ru but the site seems to be down. You can see the box art though from a whole bunch of the games we were talking about right here. http://forums.lostlevels.org/viewtopic.php?p=24349 (http://forums.lostlevels.org/viewtopic.php?p=24349) Is there any more Russian game boy sites like that? From doing a quick Google search I couldn't find anything.[/quote]The Digimon game in that post looks interesting - Digimon Adventure maybe?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 14, 2013, 12:17:03 PM
I had actually stumbled across that thread before, but never actually thought to look at those things in more detail...

Out of all of those, Mario Cart, Hulk 2, and Digimon look like they're probably Sintax's work as well. Same official-looking "Only for Game Boy Advance" sidebar, and similar-looking fake ESRB ratings.

(And though its box style is entirely different, I have to wonder about the Hulk game with a random Crash Bandicoot picture on it...)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 14, 2013, 01:45:40 PM
Alrighty, I've been screwing around on eBay, and it seems as if the published 'E12' (AKA E6 or E3 in some cases) published QUITE a lot. :O Sadly most the stuff looks like generic crap, so I might have a go getting some E12 ones, as those seem to be the ones that're Sintax. (Being a bastard by not linking, but SERIOUSLY, there's stuff like LEGO Bionicle and Robots here and they seem way too generic.)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 14, 2013, 03:03:53 PM
I'm guessing the 12, 6 and 3 refers to ROM size - 128mbit, 64mbit and 32mbit (=16MB, 8MB and 4MB). Maybe its only the ones with "U" in the 2nd part that are Sintax.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 14, 2013, 03:08:06 PM
If that was so, then wouldn't it mean the Sintax games are 12MB each? I thought Digimon Adventure was 4MB. Unless they added more stuff to the later ones.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 14, 2013, 03:20:29 PM
The Russian reseller mentioned in the Lost Levels thread also claimed the Sintax games are 128 megabit. Hm.

(Maybe they just used a 128-megabit chip, and just repeated the same code over all of the banks, similar to the VFame games' dumps?)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Picrodus on March 14, 2013, 03:50:00 PM
RobGBA
Mar 14 2013, 01:45:40 PM
Alrighty, I've been screwing around on eBay, and it seems as if the published 'E12' (AKA E6 or E3 in some cases) published QUITE a lot. :O Sadly most the stuff looks like generic crap, so I might have a go getting some E12 ones, as those seem to be the ones that're Sintax. (Being a bastard by not linking, but SERIOUSLY, there's stuff like LEGO Bionicle and Robots here and they seem way too generic.)[/quote]How do you even find that stuff. I have no idea how to search for those games on ebay O.o
codeman38
Mar 14 2013, 03:20:29 PM
The Russian reseller[/quote]Are you saying the guy was selling this stuff? I thought he only found it.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 14, 2013, 04:05:45 PM
Picrodus
Mar 14 2013, 03:50:00 PM
RobGBA
Mar 14 2013, 01:45:40 PM
Alrighty, I've been screwing around on eBay, and it seems as if the published 'E12' (AKA E6 or E3 in some cases) published QUITE a lot. :O Sadly most the stuff looks like generic crap, so I might have a go getting some E12 ones, as those seem to be the ones that're Sintax. (Being a bastard by not linking, but SERIOUSLY, there's stuff like LEGO Bionicle and Robots here and they seem way too generic.)[/quote]How do you even find that stuff. I have no idea how to search for those games on ebay O.o
codeman38
Mar 14 2013, 03:20:29 PM
The Russian reseller[/quote]Are you saying the guy was selling this stuff? I thought he only found it.[/quote]All I did was search 'gameboy' and went through hundreds of pages, because I have nothing else to do with my time. :lol: (well I do, but I can't be arsed sometimes)

And the Russian reseller is the one who made the site where all the pictures came from.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Picrodus on March 14, 2013, 08:27:55 PM
Oh my god... This might be the Aladdin 2 we were looking for. And it's for sale! http://aukro.ua/kartridzh-game-boy-advance-aladdin-2-i3097449483.html (http://aukro.ua/kartridzh-game-boy-advance-aladdin-2-i3097449483.html) It's got the 2 not the II
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 14, 2013, 08:28:53 PM
Hey nice find! :) That's the real deal.
Any ideas on how to actually get stuff through this Russian site? I can't seem to find any agents.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 14, 2013, 08:50:56 PM
It's based in the Ukraine - I know Crash Nicker lives there, maybe you could ask him?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 14, 2013, 11:52:29 PM
That is absolutely the same Aladdin 2 cart shown on 64scener's page. Nice find indeed!
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Picrodus on March 14, 2013, 11:53:14 PM
Yeah, I thought about that too but I looked at his profile and it said he hasn't been on since February 12th. So there's no telling when someone would get a response. :/
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 15, 2013, 04:09:03 PM
I'm gonna have a go buying it. :3 After all, heh, I have the technology to dump stuff. :P (and record stuff. xD)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Picrodus on March 15, 2013, 06:04:09 PM
How are ya gonna buy it?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 16, 2013, 09:02:25 AM
By kindly asking Crash. ;)
Could this be that Incredible Hulk game? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nintendo-Gameboy-Advance-Street-Fighter-Alpha-3-GBA-DS-compatible-cart-only-/121079941960?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item1c30ed4b48) It has an 'E6' ID and stuff.
*looks a little on eBay* Oh shit, they did a TMNT one..
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 16, 2013, 09:47:54 AM
no U though. and it has the same art as the legit Incredible Hulk game. I guess you can never rule it out entirely but it doesn't look promising to me.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 16, 2013, 09:50:43 AM
Oh, well never mind that then. I've found a TMNT one which looks as if it has a U on, so I'll give that one a go. *afraid the price'll go up high if I share the auction link*
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Pepper-98 on March 16, 2013, 09:52:49 AM
Don't think you'd have to worry about the price going up.  I don't think many people care about a GBA Ninja Turtles game and those GBA Sintax-ish games don't seem to garner huge interest unless it's labeled as a popular game series like Mario.  That's just me, though.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 16, 2013, 09:57:17 AM
Well, judging by what I've seen (Fighter Sonic going for £12, Harry Potter IV going with some other games for £40), if they know or have suspicions, it goes at a pretty high price. :(
EDIT: Pff never mind, it seems it has an 'M5005' ID. D:
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Superjustinbros on March 16, 2013, 05:32:47 PM
Sintax loves giving their games numbers, don't 'cha think?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Picrodus on March 22, 2013, 12:41:19 AM
Guys, the first multi cart image shows a game in the bottom left corner that says it's super Mario dx! Take a look!
http://a.m.taobao.com/i12243169728.htm?sid=9f97a2c9bf413503&pds=fromauc%23h%23shop (http://a.m.taobao.com/i12243169728.htm?sid=9f97a2c9bf413503&pds=fromauc%23h%23shop)    Could it be the one we are looking for? =O
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 22, 2013, 08:55:25 AM
on a multicart? unlikely. i mean, not *impossible*, but unlikely. Its probably the NES romhack of the same name running in PocketNES.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 22, 2013, 10:51:11 AM
Yeah, I bet it's just that ROM hack with slightly improved graphics. :\ My GBA multi has that.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Doomkid on March 23, 2013, 12:15:36 PM
Okay, so I'm really late to the party... But man, that music in Mario DX is seriously screwed, especially the bit at 5:30, euck. It just sustains a note that sounds like an old cumpter dying. It's a shame, the actual tune itself doesnt seem too bad if it wasn't butchered up so badly.

As far as gameplay, there's not much to say besides that it looks pretty awful to control. Mario's physics are so crucial, and it's what pirates always get wrong... Super Mario World NES with the yusuplaz game genie code is the only thing even close to 'acceptable' i've seen so far.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 23, 2013, 02:28:50 PM
Faceplant
Mar 23 2013, 12:15:36 PM
Okay, so I'm really late to the party... But man, that music in Mario DX is seriously screwed, especially the bit at 5:30, euck. It just sustains a note that sounds like an old cumpter dying. It's a shame, the actual tune itself doesnt seem too bad if it wasn't butchered up so badly.[/quote]yeah the music is decent, it was originally composed by Vast Fame. its just that they handed it off to Sintax who couldn't program the GBA for shit and it ended up kinda glitchy.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 23, 2013, 02:34:10 PM
Hmm, I sorta think Sintax traded their GBA SDK to Vast Fame in return for the Soul Falchion music. Just a thought though.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 23, 2013, 03:09:37 PM
I don't think Vast Fame would have any use for that shit really. They were making their own GBA games in 2002-3 when Sintax was only just starting on the GBC.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 23, 2013, 04:03:12 PM
Oh. :lol: Disregard what I said then.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: fcgamer on March 23, 2013, 07:24:37 PM
I personally find it interesting that around the time Vast Fame was getting out of the Gameboy industry, Sintax was moving into the Gameboy industry, with a brief overlap period. The overlap period would be when Sintax used stuff programmed by the mysterious BBD folks. Then they moved to Taichung from China to continue operations, and grabbed parts of the Vast Fame team, to continue churning out games.  Just some of the thoughts that have been rolling around in my head.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 23, 2013, 07:39:45 PM
They were all linked to Gamtec in some way so they probably shared staff/resources at times, at least when they were both in Taichung.. something similar seemed to be going on with Chuanpu and Gamtec on the Mega Drive. I personally doubt any Vast Fame people went with Sintax to China though - it seems like a lot of their games post-BBD were just variations on the BBD stuff, so they probably didn't have many developers on staff at all until a bit later on (2004-5ish?) when I guess they got a new team together.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: fcgamer on March 23, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
taizou
Mar 23 2013, 07:39:45 PM
They were all linked to Gamtec in some way so they probably shared staff/resources at times, at least when they were both in Taichung.. something similar seemed to be going on with Chuanpu and Gamtec on the Mega Drive. I personally doubt any Vast Fame people went with Sintax to China though - it seems like a lot of their games post-BBD were just variations on the BBD stuff, so they probably didn't have many developers on staff at all until a bit later on (2004-5ish?) when I guess they got a new team together.[/quote]I feel that the wiki is wrong, and that Sintax did their operations in China first.  

Or another thought is that they outsourced some stuff to China, while remaining based in Taichung.  Because I know for a fact that their later stuff was done, while the company was based in Taichung.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 23, 2013, 08:00:47 PM
Well they were definitely in Taichung way before they started releasing GB games (they published some educational software on the PC in the late 90s), but yeah they could have kept the Taichung office as their HQ while using China for distribution or whatever (or to keep themselves at arms length from the copyright holders I guess).

just curious, how do you know they were still based in Taichung for the later stuff, though?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: fcgamer on March 23, 2013, 08:42:57 PM
taizou
Mar 23 2013, 08:00:47 PM
Well they were definitely in Taichung way before they started releasing GB games (they published some educational software on the PC in the late 90s), but yeah they could have kept the Taichung office as their HQ while using China for distribution or whatever (or to keep themselves at arms length from the copyright holders I guess).

just curious, how do you know they were still based in Taichung for the later stuff, though?[/quote]Well that is quite simple, just look at the boxes.  The original Sintax games (2002ish) do not have any address on the back of the box (I should check and see if I can find an address in the manual).  On the games they release in 2003, they list an address on the back of their boxes, and it is in China. That is, until November of 2003. At that point, the address switches to one in Taichung.

All of the Sintax Gameboy Advance games I have, have a Taichung address printed on the back. As added proof, I own a handful of Sintax games (titles released prior to November 2003) which contain the Sintax China address; however, there is a small printed sticker covering up the China address, and it has their Taichung address posted on it.  Obviously, these were extras, and Sintax put the printed stickers to update their address on the boxes.

Between the printed stickers and the Taichung address on all of their later stuff, it shows me that they had been in Taichung and not China throughout their later years.  Parts of their original catalogue (some of the stuff shared by SKOB via BBD) has the stickers as well, so it suggests to me that their BBD stuff was done while they were in China, yet their newer stuff was done in Taichung.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 23, 2013, 09:13:23 PM
Hmmmmm. Looking at my boxes I have a mixture of Taichung and China addresses - there's one (The Incredibles) with the China address from as late as 2005, and the earliest with the Taichung address is Lion King from 2003 which has the sticker. Without exception though all the ones with the China address were bought from China and the ones with the Taichung address were bought from Taiwan.

So I guess they had both offices all along, and they just printed different boxes depending on the country the game was sold in - but earlier on they only printed them with the Chinese address (since China was the bigger market I guess) and stickered them for Taiwan. Taiwan seems to have been the only place they released those GBA-sized GBC carts, though.

Incidentally this trademark filing from 1994 (http://tmsearch.tipo.gov.tw/TIPO_DR/servlet/InitLogoPictureWordDetail?sKeyNO=083067692) has the same Taichung address as the latest game boxes, so it seems like they didn't even move in all that time.
oh yeah, another odd thing: all the GB-size Sintax games I have from Taiwan (only about three, admittedly) are in generic grey "GAME" carts, whereas everything i have from China or elsewhere uses their own custom cart design. But the seemingly Taiwan-only GBA-size carts are based on the larger design and even come in the same colours.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: fcgamer on March 24, 2013, 08:19:04 AM
taizou
Mar 23 2013, 09:13:23 PM
Hmmmmm. Looking at my boxes I have a mixture of Taichung and China addresses - there's one (The Incredibles) with the China address from as late as 2005, and the earliest with the Taichung address is Lion King from 2003 which has the sticker. Without exception though all the ones with the China address were bought from China and the ones with the Taichung address were bought from Taiwan.

So I guess they had both offices all along, and they just printed different boxes depending on the country the game was sold in - but earlier on they only printed them with the Chinese address (since China was the bigger market I guess) and stickered them for Taiwan. Taiwan seems to have been the only place they released those GBA-sized GBC carts, though.

Incidentally this trademark filing from 1994 (http://tmsearch.tipo.gov.tw/TIPO_DR/servlet/InitLogoPictureWordDetail?sKeyNO=083067692) has the same Taichung address as the latest game boxes, so it seems like they didn't even move in all that time.
oh yeah, another odd thing: all the GB-size Sintax games I have from Taiwan (only about three, admittedly) are in generic grey "GAME" carts, whereas everything i have from China or elsewhere uses their own custom cart design. But the seemingly Taiwan-only GBA-size carts are based on the larger design and even come in the same colours.[/quote]Could you show me a picture of the one with the China address from 2005?  I take it that this was in the normal Gameboy sized box, and not one of those pseudo GBA carts?

All of the fake GBA carts I have, have the Taiwan address printed on them direct, no stickers, or anything else.  

Most of the GBC Sintax games I have are in generic gray cartridges, and the vast majority were purchased in Taiwan.  Some of the games have the China address showing, but after 2003 November, the ones I have are all Taiwan address, if I can recollect properly wht I noticed from this morning.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 24, 2013, 08:42:49 AM
It seems as if the English ones don't have addresses. :( I can't see one on my Pocket Monster Carbuncles box.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 24, 2013, 09:50:37 AM
Here's The Incredibles: http://imgur.com/zAq3gs0 (http://imgur.com/zAq3gs0)
It was bought from China & the cart is the custom GBC-sized one.

I notice even though its ostensibly a mainland China release, all the text is in traditional Chinese - so maybe their HQ was always in Taiwan, and China just handled distribution and (I guess) shell manufacturing?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 24, 2013, 12:50:41 PM
Noticed something interesting in one of Qiezei's scans while looking back at some of those-- his cart of Ge Dou Jian Shen (http://qiezei.blogspot.com/2011/05/sintax-gba-beast-fighter-scans.html) (one of the GBA-sized GBC carts) lists the mailing address in Taichung together with the mainland phone number.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Superjustinbros on March 25, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
I'll just stick with my millions of SMB1 ROM hacks.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: KAGE-008 on March 25, 2013, 03:37:35 PM
I'm hoping this'll be dumped successfully so I can beat it.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 25, 2013, 04:03:11 PM
Meh, the Digimon Adventure ROM got 'leaked' before, so I suppose you can beat that one. (And Barver has the link in the description of his YT video of it.)
Also, if anyone has this and wants it dumped, you can probably try and de-solder the EPROM and nab the data with some kind of EPROM programmer. I don't think anybody would even TRY to do something like that to a precious fourteenth-of-a-kind game. :lol:
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 29, 2013, 07:42:06 PM
All credits to Awesome Panda for finding this one.
Donkey Kong 2! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv7RIqIUexI)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 29, 2013, 11:01:11 PM
...How many of these freaking things did Sintax make?!?!
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 30, 2013, 05:37:13 AM
I'm betting over 20. (Sintax, if ONLY you bothered to make another engine.)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Pepper-98 on March 30, 2013, 07:37:10 AM
Man, they are getting as bad as Makon with these games.  I know their GBC games re-used engines a lot, they still varied it up slightly (and bothered using more than one soundtrack for each game.)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: KingPepe on March 30, 2013, 08:43:47 AM
What's up with Donkey Kong? Did they try putting Diddy's hat on him?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 30, 2013, 09:26:48 AM
Yep, and they obviously did a bad job on it. :lol:
Found a sealed Donkey Kong 2. (http://bedford.olx.co.uk/donkey-kong-2-gba-new-iid-118727855) Sadly, it was put up in 2010, so I dunno if that's still available. :\

And this guy has another Sintax work on GBA, Pokemon Special Pikachu Edition 3! (http://bedford.olx.co.uk/pokemon-special-pikachu-edition-3-gba-new-iid-118728093) (this just gets worser and worser, right?)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on March 30, 2013, 05:09:11 PM
...Yeaaah, this is absolutely Sintax's work. They reused the plot line from Donkey Kong 5 on the back of the box!

(They romanized Sodoma and Lombado's names differently... but then again, Sintax was never one for consistency. I mean, they called their Lilo & Stitch game "Space Baby" on the box, but "Firmament Baby" in the ROM itself.)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Barver on March 30, 2013, 06:02:51 PM
I can't believe how many of these are still being found. This is almost sad.

I noticed Donkey Kong 2 uses a Wario Land 4 background. I think it may be possible the layout for the first stage is based off of the snow stage in Digimon Adventure. Last I recall all of these had the same layouts anyway. Still never figured out how to access that stage in the GBA version, someone oughtta figure that out...  :whistle:
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on March 31, 2013, 10:01:09 AM
UPDATE: Got a PM from the guy with Donkey Kong 2. Getting it soon, hopefully. :) As long as he doesn't go crazy in the price range.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on March 31, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
Oh my Christ I've been on holiday for three days and two more of these things have already turned up. This is pretty ridiculous right here.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on April 01, 2013, 03:44:02 AM
I think we'll see more later in the year. It's Sintax, you know? They like recycling. :P
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Picrodus on April 01, 2013, 04:34:24 PM
RobGBA
Mar 31 2013, 10:01:09 AM
UPDATE: Got a PM from the guy with Donkey Kong 2. Getting it soon, hopefully. :) As long as he doesn't go crazy in the price range.[/quote]Are you talking about the one on olx.com? Because I've tried to contact that guy about that pikachu edition 3 before and he's never responded.  :\
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on April 01, 2013, 04:38:09 PM
Nah, it was the person who made the YouTube video.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on April 03, 2013, 03:46:03 PM
It's on its way, I guess. ^_^
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on April 05, 2013, 12:45:07 PM
Anyone think Sintax made an Aladdin 1? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aladdin-For-Nintendo-Gameboy-Advance-Cart-Only-/261192904310?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item3cd04f6e76 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aladdin-For-Nintendo-Gameboy-Advance-Cart-Only-/261192904310?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item3cd04f6e76)
Probably isn't, but still, the design looks similar to Aladdin 2s.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on April 08, 2013, 12:53:49 PM

Here's a video I made of Donkey Kong 2. (I've tried to dump it, with no success, BUT there's still data there to screw around with!)
Oh yeah and note they added a pause button for a change into Donkey Kong 2!
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: brightentayle on April 08, 2013, 04:09:08 PM
Well, what could I say about a new Sintax platform game if anything else was said before, apart from the stupid Donkey and Diddy sprite mashup?..

Uhm... Okay, I've got one.

OLO DIS GAYM SUX (c) Space
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: KAGE-008 on April 08, 2013, 04:11:26 PM
Crash Nicker
Apr 8 2013, 04:09:08 PM
Well, what could I say about a new Sintax platform game if anything else was said before, apart from the stupid Donkey and Diddy sprite mashup?..

Uhm... Okay, I've got one.

OLO DIS GAYM SUX (c) Space[/quote] :lol: Great! (I miss SN88's old uploading ways though)
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on April 08, 2013, 05:55:11 PM
Anybody think it could work in a Game Boy Micro? I'm thinking of getting a GBM soon, so I just wanna know.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Pepper-98 on April 08, 2013, 06:51:45 PM
So long as it's a GBA game it should work fine.  It's only GBC stuff (and GBC boards inside a GBA case...Makon) that wouldn't run.  All of my GBA bootlegs run fine on my GBA Micro and DS.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: codeman38 on April 08, 2013, 08:52:42 PM
I'm still wondering what Vast Fame game they ripped that title tune from. If it's even from a game at all, that is-- given that VF likely collaborated with Sintax, it may very well have been an incomplete tune that never actually got used in anything.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on April 10, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
Qiezei
Apr 8 2013, 06:51:45 PM
So long as it's a GBA game it should work fine.  It's only GBC stuff (and GBC boards inside a GBA case...Makon) that wouldn't run.  All of my GBA bootlegs run fine on my GBA Micro and DS.[/quote]My copy of Lord of the Rings IV doesn't work on my DS though, so some of these games do have compatibility issues even with official hardware. AFAIK the hardware in the GB Micro is the same as the SP though (I think even the GBC hardware is still there, it just doesnt have the voltage switch necessary to use its carts) so it should be fine.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Pepper-98 on April 10, 2013, 08:21:24 AM
codeman38
Apr 8 2013, 08:52:42 PM
I'm still wondering what Vast Fame game they ripped that title tune from. If it's even from a game at all, that is-- given that VF likely collaborated with Sintax, it may very well have been an incomplete tune that never actually got used in anything.[/quote]That title song is one of the overworld themes used in Shui Hu Shen Shou.  It doesn't show up until later on in the game, mainly in the water areas.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: Robyn on April 10, 2013, 10:54:32 AM
Well, it seems to mask itself as a DS Option Pak after one failed boot on my DS Lite. The PCB doesn't look as if it has anything special on.

(BTW, the ID isn't on the cart for Donkey Kong 2, but it's on the EPROM as 'U06-E-EA09')
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: SuperTails327 on October 25, 2013, 11:54:55 AM
Does someone know where to find them?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: KAGE-008 on October 25, 2013, 12:00:26 PM
SuperTails327
Oct 25 2013, 11:54:55 AM
Does someone know where to find them?[/quote]Possibly on TaoBao, but these are sometimes hard to find.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on October 25, 2013, 06:27:34 PM
they show up on ebay/other auction sites very rarely
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: KAGE-008 on October 25, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
taizou
Oct 25 2013, 06:27:34 PM
they show up on ebay/other auction sites very rarely[/quote]Exactly what I think.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: RosalinaFan573 on November 23, 2016, 10:02:07 PM
Robbi
Apr 8 2013, 12:53:49 PM

Here's a video I made of Donkey Kong 2. (I've tried to dump it, with no success, BUT there's still data there to screw around with!)
Oh yeah and note they added a pause button for a change into Donkey Kong 2![/quote]I think there's a homebrew dumping method that uses the GameCube/RVL-001 Wii, could you try that?
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: taizou on November 25, 2016, 05:11:29 PM
I've tried dumping these games directly through a GBASP with no success (same way I dumped the Vast Fame GBA games), I doubt a Gamecube or Wii would fare much better. The protection on these things is good.
Title: Super Mario DX for GBA
Post by: bgr on December 10, 2016, 10:52:27 AM
Robbi
Apr 8 2013, 12:53:49 PM

Here's a video I made of Donkey Kong 2. (I've tried to dump it, with no success, BUT there's still data there to screw around with!)
Oh yeah and note they added a pause button for a change into Donkey Kong 2![/quote]You can take a picture of the cartridge?