- RobGBA
- Oct 13 2012, 12:46:46 PM
I swear there's a pirate for famicom or gbc called Bao Qing Tian! :O[/quote]
- Macaw
:D- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on October 13, 2012, 01:22:34 PM
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I mentioned the Famicom games in my previous post ^_^ Bao Qing Tian was a name for Bao Zheng, so its quite a common name given to games/tv shows and such relating to the character.
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Its bizzare how UMC decided to support the system and overhaul its image by producing proper high quality original games for it. This screenshot (from sickertus's photobucket) is a good example of the original era Gamate contrasting with the UMC era, with the original Gamate showing a screenshot of the piece of shit pacman clone Money Maze which was an early BIT Corp game, while the later era UMC Gamate is showing a screenshot of game c1-058 called 天羅煞 Heaven Clash, which is a VS fighting game and was the first UMC game release that was a Taiwan/Chinese exclusive. All games from c1-058 onwards were asian exclusive releases.
(http://i.imgur.com/fnxJQ.jpg)- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on October 18, 2012, 08:47:31 AM- Hey Taizou, how long ago was it that you saw the Ruten auctions of the couple of Chinese games you have photo's of in your Gamate section? I've been browsing the taiwan auction sites for a year now and have never seen a single UMC era game come up, with the exception of Heaven Clash which was being sold alongside a Gamate system for a ludicrous price for months before disappearing at the end of last year. Dunno if I'm shit at searching properly, I'm just browsing with searches for either 'Gamate, '超級小子' or '超级神童'.
Also any shots of games from auctions that you never got around to uploading? Would be interested to see if there are any games or boxes I haven't seen yet.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: taizou on October 18, 2012, 07:13:29 PM- oh it was a while back, must have been a few years ago now.. I do have a bunch of pics I havent put up anywhere though. like, tons of stuff. I've been sorting through it all recently for the potential revamp I mentioned earlier.
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Post by: Macaw on October 18, 2012, 08:16:44 PM- Is any of your non uploaded stuff from auction sites?
I'm still curious to know if there are any games left I haven't seen. Till now, Sickertus/Jonathon had uploaded box or card shots of everything except for about 10-15 of the 'missing' games. Shots can be seen here:
http://www.atariage.com/forums?topic=199329-fs-bitcorp-gamate-collection/ (http://www.atariage.com/forums?topic=199329-fs-bitcorp-gamate-collection/)
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/uu353/sickertus/Gamate%20game%20cards/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ20 (http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/uu353/sickertus/Gamate%20game%20cards/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ20)
Then theres also this page which shows a couple of rarer games like Fist of Thunder, Kiki Inland, and 10萬個為什麼:
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/ckkh10/422733 (http://www.wretch.cc/blog/ckkh10/422733)
And also this page which has manual and box shots of Fist of Thunder, 10萬個為什麼 (K1-001) and 天羅煞 Heaven Clash (c1-058):
https://picasaweb.google.com/taiwangamate/GAMATE (https://picasaweb.google.com/taiwangamate/GAMATE)
Most interesting on that page though is a shot of the box for 火爆英雄 (c1-065) which is the only instance of the game seen so far. Shown on the left here (the album also has a shot of the back of the back):
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PmUZ7goew1A/RkWBEA2hn_I/AAAAAAAAAFE/u2QR_K5jR4U/s640/PIC_0057.JPG)
So yeah, if you notice that you have any auction shots that show games not seen so far, then that would be interesting to see.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on October 27, 2012, 04:26:50 AM- Managed to get a complete copy of Metamorphosiser, another UMC release. Apart from the ridiculously awesome name, the game turned out cooler than I was expecting. Its a side scrolling platformer with a cool post apocalyptic theme and impressive graphics. You choose from 3 different weapons, then you journey through destroyed streets and sewers and stuff fighting all kinds of crazy enemies. The instruction manual shows 4 bosses, but then only displays a question mark for the 'Dark Lord' final boss, so I'm curious to see that ^_^ Somewhat tough game, I've played it a few times now and have gotten up to the 2nd boss.
Heres a few quick shots I took (notice the in-game title is 'Tough Guy')
(http://i.imgur.com/CqNbe.png) (http://i.imgur.com/R4zoF.png)
Also interesting to note that the copy of the game I got is the same copy that can be seen in the only decent box photo of the game on the net from Retrotrader. When I first discovered taizou's gamate section last year and went to retrotrader there were no gamate games listed, so I figured it was sold out years ago. A month back though I randomly ended up at the retrotrader site again and noticed it had just been majorly updated, and noticed that the gamate section was listing games again. I emailed the guy and he indeed still had Metamorphosiser, complete and mint. I bought it immediately, for about the same price that a loose cart of the game sold for from 3rdman's recent gamate collection sale, so I guess I got lucky on that one. Goes to show how crazy acquiring games for this system is, and also how depressing it is that the cool and interesting gamate games from UMC are so unbelievably rare.
(http://fuji.drillspirits.net/gamate/gameimg/found/metamorphosiser.jpg)- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on November 30, 2012, 05:49:33 AM- Ahh yes, the best handheld ever created!
I will complete and release a working link cable very soon, the real trouble for you guys will be aquiring 2 consoles + 2 copies of a linkable game title. ;)
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Post by: Mr. Postman on December 12, 2012, 04:32:16 AM- My second copy of Baseball finally arrived, but I've been having difficulties with the link cable project. At this point, the results seem to differ from console to console. I did succeed to get the Baseball title screen to appear on two separate consoles with just one game card for a split second though.
The expansion port only has 5 pins, I figure:
data in, data out, clock, ground & +5v.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on April 19, 2013, 12:21:52 AM- Haha well some crazy new Gamate collector is on the loose. First some Spanish guy put up an auction for a boxed game #60 (Further Adventures of Hannibal the Cat) for the crazy price of $200 US. I figured no one would bid, but in the closing seconds one guy actually did. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gamate-Further-Adventures-of-Hannibal-the-Cat-RARE-/221211489538?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item33813b7502&nma=true&si=1FKjGXfdN%252BA1B%252FPD6%252FOBrWlDr%252B8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gamate-Further-Adventures-of-Hannibal-the-Cat-RARE-/221211489538?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item33813b7502&nma=true&si=1FKjGXfdN%252BA1B%252FPD6%252FOBrWlDr%252B8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
Obviously wanting to capitalize on this guy, the Spanish seller then put up an auction for game #70 (Which is now the highest numbered game known) and doubled the price to $400 with a buy it now. Of course it sold. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gamate-ULTRA-RARE-C1-070-/221216074554?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3381816b3a&nma=true&si=1FKjGXfdN%252BA1B%252FPD6%252FOBrWlDr%252B8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gamate-ULTRA-RARE-C1-070-/221216074554?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3381816b3a&nma=true&si=1FKjGXfdN%252BA1B%252FPD6%252FOBrWlDr%252B8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
Up until now the highest that gamate games have sold for was when me and Jonathon Lux (who's now stopped collecting) fought over some auctions for super rare stuff, but even those only got to about $100 or less.
I'm kinda tempted to put up a bunch of my rare games now with $500+ BIN's lol.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: taizou on April 19, 2013, 12:12:41 PM- Jesus Christ what. That's ridiculous.
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Post by: fcgamer on April 19, 2013, 01:44:58 PM- I hate the Gamate. The quality of the machine is pure shit imo, owning three "new" machines, but they all have damaged screens. Such quality control, yay!
I wonder who else is collecting these things, paying such crazy prices? If I had a machine with a good screen, I would try to get a complete set, but $100 a pop is probably the most I would pay for a cart, and that would be for the rarer ones.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: taizou on April 19, 2013, 02:19:42 PM- I have three and the screens are all okay. (Okay as in "not damaged" anyway, two are the super-blurry type that render games with small fast-moving objects practically unplayable). Are yours the earlier (90-91) Bit Corp ones or the later (93-94) UMC ones? Mine are all early ones, I wonder if their quality control slipped later on...
(and me personally I stopped buying Gamate games when prices went over like $50.. which I guess was kinda my fault since my site and the Retro Gamer article I contributed to probably did a lot to raise awareness of the system... oh well! sorry guys)- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: fcgamer on April 19, 2013, 03:45:35 PM
- taizou
- Apr 19 2013, 02:19:42 PM
I have three and the screens are all okay. (Okay as in "not damaged" anyway, two are the super-blurry type that render games with small fast-moving objects practically unplayable). Are yours the earlier (90-91) Bit Corp ones or the later (93-94) UMC ones? Mine are all early ones, I wonder if their quality control slipped later on...
(and me personally I stopped buying Gamate games when prices went over like $50.. which I guess was kinda my fault since my site and the Retro Gamer article I contributed to probably did a lot to raise awareness of the system... oh well! sorry guys)[/quote]Two of mine are from 91, one is from 93; the one from 93 is in the best shape. All were bought as new old stock, all have black marks on the screen making it unplayable, though the one from 93 has the smallest spot, wheras the others have spots so large, it covers basically everything. Maybe it is the humidity in Taiwan, but I have never seen this problem before, never saw it on a Game King, Game Boy, Game Gear here, and saw it only once on a Super Vision...that says to me, that the quality of this thing must be shit.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on April 20, 2013, 09:55:40 AM- I have 2 gamate's. Both of them had good screens with no problems, although one of the gamate's suddenly stopped working one day completely randomly and I haven't been able to get it to run since lol.
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Post by: Mr. Postman on April 22, 2013, 09:24:00 PM- C1-070 英斯克戰爭 <--- ?
Insect War
(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u503/bitcorp/InsectWar.png)- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on May 04, 2013, 08:25:41 PM- Pretty cool, notice the copyright is 1995! :)
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Post by: taizou on May 05, 2013, 08:00:23 AM- oh wow, so I guess they kept this thing going right up until the Super A'can came out.
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Post by: Mr. Postman on May 05, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
- taizou
- May 5 2013, 08:00:23 AM
oh wow, so I guess they kept this thing going right up until the Super A'can came out. [/quote]I was surprised about that too.
I don't know if I can beat the game to get to the credits, it's a bug-themed Gradius clone that has 6 stages.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on May 17, 2013, 12:58:50 PM- Holy moly postman you sure are crazy, you should have waited till the the guy had put the price down to at least 200 or something cause no one else is willing to spend nearly that much, I should know cause up until this point I was always the highest bidder on gamate crap hahaha.
The info is much appreciated, I wonder if #70 was the last. I finished game #69 and I think the date in the staff roll was mid-late 1994. The slightly earlier Robin Hood was dated January 1994. If #70 was the last then it probably would have been very early 1995. If you finish it the staff roll will most likely have a month along with the year, like seemingly all the late-era UMC gmes have.
Did you manage to snag that recent BIN auction of the Incantational Couple btw? I'm still curious as to what genre of game it is so I can update my now almost complete Gamate list.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on May 25, 2013, 07:51:15 PM
- Macaw
- May 17 2013, 12:58:50 PM
Holy moly postman you sure are crazy, you should have waited till the the guy had put the price down to at least 200 or something cause no one else is willing to spend nearly that much, I should know cause up until this point I was always the highest bidder on gamate crap hahaha.
The info is much appreciated, I wonder if #70 was the last. I finished game #69 and I think the date in the staff roll was mid-late 1994. The slightly earlier Robin Hood was dated January 1994. If #70 was the last then it probably would have been very early 1995. If you finish it the staff roll will most likely have a month along with the year, like seemingly all the late-era UMC gmes have.
Did you manage to snag that recent BIN auction of the Incantational Couple btw? I'm still curious as to what genre of game it is so I can update my now almost complete Gamate list.[/quote]Hi Macaw, I would have waited but the Canadian bidder was buying all the good stuff up quick. I offered $125 for the Incantational with a $165 counter-offer, but the Canadian buyer bought it before I could think it over. $400 is a lot of money, but if this copy of Insect War is the only one that's ever surfaced (boxed and complete no less) I wanted it before it would be gone forever (It's been 18 years and nobody even knew it existed at all, and being from 1995 and possibly the final Gamate title is the icing on the cake). In the big picture, a one of a kind vintage official game for the price I paid is a complete steal IMO, whether or not the Gamate has been appreciated yet by the masses.
I'm hoping that there will be a way to emulate these games soon, as I'm utterly sick of the blurry Gamate screen that renders these games almost unplayable. I just received an MSX SoftCard adaptor, but the Gamate cards have thicker plastic and won't fit perfectly (but the pinout is near identical). The Amiga and Commodore also had SoftCard adapters, but I'd like to make the MSX one work since it would be so easy to dump. I'll wire up the MSX adapter to a genesis pinout and see if I can dump with the Retrode. I can only hope that Bit Corp was too lazy to alter the SoftCard pinout for their Gamate console. To answer a possible follow up question, SoftCard MSX games don't boot on the gamate.
As for Insect War, it's like Cave's Mushihime-Sama meets Konami's Gradius. It has 6 levels, and is quite difficult. You will die if you come in contact with stage backgrounds/obstacles. There's front/reverse basic fire functions, and a hefty slew of power-ups & shot types. Your ship's speed is painfully slow before you acquire a first speed-up power up, and if you die you must restart at the very beginning of the stage just like Gradius. There's a moderately extensive option menu (with the Gamate in mind), and each of the 6 stages have different layouts with their own unique bosses.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on May 26, 2013, 10:43:29 AM- Trust me, I'm just happy its you that got the game. Even if the game had a $10 BIN and I didn't see the auction in time I wouldn't feel bad at all if I knew you were the one that got it. The most important thing to me is discovering these cool and unique games and sharing information and screenshots with anyone else that wants to know about them, far better than if some kind of collector with no intention to ever play the game for more than 30 seconds got it.
Side scrolling shooters tend to be less interesting to me than other types of action games like platformers or whatever, but Insect War does look pretty interesting due its theme and that crazy cover art hahaha. I would love to know what the bosses are like and if they are impressive at all in terms of size and design.
By the way thats the 2nd Incantation Couple to show up in a year, and meanwhile no copies of early UMC era stuff like Punk Boy and Metamorphosiser have shown up in 2+ years, so I guess a lot of this stuff has similar rarity after all, Incantational Couple just seemed to be super rare because Jonathon Lux never saw a copy in his 3-4 years of collecting the system.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on November 02, 2013, 10:46:59 PM- Scored a boxed copy of Hannibal the Cat (shmup), and also got a second loose copy of Kiki Island!
Kiki Island is an amazingly rare Adventure Island style game, and Hannibal the cat also speaks for itself.
Never hurts to build up the ol' Gamate collection. ;)- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on November 06, 2013, 08:21:00 AM- Ah so the spanish guy finally put the price on those down ;)
Would love some screenshots of Insect War and Hannibal the cat if possible (a boss screenshot of each game in particular considering there aren't any on the back of the boxes) although I know how damn hard it can be taking decent photo's of gamate screens haha.
Did you get the loose Dinosaur Park from Sickertus way back? I'm still curious to know what that one is like.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on November 07, 2013, 11:20:30 PM
- Macaw
- Nov 6 2013, 08:21:00 AM
Ah so the spanish guy finally put the price on those down ;)
Would love some screenshots of Insect War and Hannibal the cat if possible (a boss screenshot of each game in particular considering there aren't any on the back of the boxes) although I know how damn hard it can be taking decent photo's of gamate screens haha.
Did you get the loose Dinosaur Park from Sickertus way back? I'm still curious to know what that one is like.[/quote]Yep, I'm a sucker for a price drop. :)
Right now I'm in the process of remodeling my home so my Gamate collection is in storage ATM. I also picked up a loose copy of Mighty Boxer, but haven't played it yet for the aforementioned reason.
When I get my Gamate stuff back in my home I'll gladly take any photos that I can. Insect War is really hard, but luckily there are plenty of images & screenshots in the manual. I might have to build a little kiosk-like stand so I can clamp the Gamate into something to get some nice videos as well. Ultimately, I would love to have someone build me a dumper so we can finally enjoy these games on a screen that human eyes can actually see. ;P
And yes, I did get sickertus' copy of Dinosaur Park. The game has beautiful large sprites, but is difficult. In the story mode the text scrolls by so fast that I couldn't read it unless I took a video and watched it in slow motion (and I'm the type of guy that always sets RPG games to a fast text-speed). I only played this game a couple of times, but if memory serves I was having trouble pulling off special moves. This may be because I'm either very bad at the game, or that I'm a paranoid collector and didn't want to handle my gamate in an aggressive "fighting game" fashion. Please keep in mind that when my package from Sickertus arrived I was overwhelmed by all the games that I bought. I guess I have no excuse for why I didn't revisit Dinosaur Park besides that I just got caught up trying to beat some of the other games.
By any chance have you played Kiki Island? If you enjoyed the Adventure Island/Takahashi Meijin games on the original GB, you'll also love this game. What do you think is the deal with most of the harder to find earlier numbered games? They always seem to stand out as being better quality than the more common Bit Corp games, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were delayed/cancelled titles that UMC eventually finished & published. For example, I don't own Mars Voyage but I expect that it's just as solid or close gameplay wise as Hannibal & Insect War?- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on November 10, 2013, 10:32:18 AM- In regards to Dinosaur Park - I'm mainly curious to know if its a strict VS fighter where you choose a character and fight through opponents, or is it you only play as a single character and fight a series of unplayable bosses? Thats the vibe I was getting from the box cover art, although if there is a 'VS Mode' along with the 'story mode' I suppose all the fighters are playable in that, or somthing.
Never played Kiki Island, but seen screenshots on the back of the box. Theres definitely a 'middle period' in the gamate's evolution where UMC probably took over and put out releases such as Kiki Island, Fist of Thunder, Fortune n' Luck, Incantational Couple, etc. Indeed they are much more solid games that the pure trash quality of the early bitcorp stuff, although lots of the graphics and designs are usually still copied from Japanese games (Kiki Inland copies from Adventure Island, Fist of Thunder copies from the Hiryuu no Ken games, Fortress of Fear copies from Ikari no Yousai, Flying Goblin copies from Red Arremer, even just recently I realized that Metamorphosiser is essentially just a kind of remixed version of the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game on Gameboy with some sprite edits, and thats a game that comes in the final era UMC packaging.
With the exception of a couple odd titles the only real 100% original games are the final wave of Asian only releases (game #58 and everything onwards)
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Post by: Mr. Postman on November 11, 2013, 08:04:08 PM- Dinosaur park has a basic story mode where you can only play as the default character, which is a little boy (or girl??). There is a true vs mode where you can choose from all the characters as well. I can't remember how many there are to choose from, but I'm pretty sure there was at least 8. Being a later title, I don't believe there was link cable support unfortunately.
I never did get a link cable to fully work. I did get baseball to display the title screen on two Gamates with only one cartridge and the second Gamate having no batteries in it (The second Gamate powers on automatically no matter which position the power switch is in as soon as you turn on the host/1P Gamate). However, when you press the start button it locks up. I couldn't get it to do anything at all with 2 copies of baseball. I'll mess with this more later when I have the extra free time. There's a *possibility* that I simply need to use a larger gauge of wire for the voltage, or that an AC adaptor with higher amps is needed with no batteries in either console.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on November 12, 2013, 03:52:59 AM- What other games apart from baseball supposedly are link compatible?
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Post by: Mr. Postman on November 13, 2013, 10:26:42 PM
- Macaw
- Nov 12 2013, 03:52:59 AM
What other games apart from baseball supposedly are link compatible?[/quote] Well, Baseball and Fortune 'n Luck are compatible for sure. Kiki Island shows link cable support on the box, but I'm fairly positive that it's single player only. I'll have to go through every single game and see which have a 2P Option on the title screen that aren't 2P turn-based games.
If you own a game that has a 2P option on the title screen that you *can't* select no matter which button you press, it's a link-cable compatible game. With my link cable plugged in, it will let you engage the 2P modes (which in my experience causes both consoles to freeze/lock-up after you select said option).- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on November 17, 2013, 11:01:52 PM- Mr. Macaw, may I ask which titles you own? I've copied and pasted the wikipedia list, and have put an "O" by those that I own and an "X" by those that I do not.
O C1-001 Cube-Up
O C1-002 Witty Apee
X C1-003 Box Forum
O C1-004 Mighty Tank
O C1-005 Enchanted Bricks
O C1-006 Mini Golf
O C1-007 Galaxy Invaders
O C1-008 Legend of Dragon Knight
O C1-009 Tornado
X C1-010 Bump N' Run
O C1-011 Money Maze
X C1-012 Pharaoh Revenger
O C1-013 Dino Bibo
O C1-014 Time Warrior
O C1-015 Kill Shot
X C1-016 Volcano Panic
O C1-017 Devil Castle
O C1-018 Kung-Fu Fighter
O C1-019 Dino Ball
X C1-020 Bad Bud Chou Chu's Adventure
O C1-021 Myth of Asamia
O C1-022 Pipemania
X C1-023 Tennis
X C1-024 Marauder
X C1-025 Jackpot
X C1-026 Flipuzzle
O C1-027 Monster Pitfall
O C1-028 Vindicators
O C1-029 Brick Blaster
X C1-030 Beach Volleyball
O C1-031 Bomb Blaster
O C1-032 Cosmic Fighter
X C1-033 Fist of Thunder
X C1-034 Superboy
O C1-035 Treasure Hunter
O C1-036 Jewelriss
O C1-037 Nightmare of Santa Claus
X C1-038 Mars Voyage
X C1-039 Fortress of Fierceness
X C1-040 Incantational Couple
O C1-041 Mighty Boxer
X C1-042 Flying Goblin
O C1-043 Boom!
O C1-044 Snowman Legend
X C1-045 World Cup Soccer
O C1-046 Kiki Inland (Kiki Island)
O C1-047 Fortune 'n Luck
O C1-048 Baseball (Super Baseball)
X C1-049 Punk Boy
X C1-050 Fortress Of Fierceness
X C1-051 ???
O C1-052 Famous (7 Famous)
X C1-053 Metamorphosiser (Tough Guy)
O C1-054 Magic Jigsaw
X C1-055 ???
O C1-056 GP Race
O C1-057 Fantasy Travel
X C1-058 Heaven Clash
X C1-059 ???
O C1-060 Further Adventures of Hannibal The Cat
O C1-061 Dinosaur Park
X C1-062 ???
O C1-063 Basketball
X C1-064 Bao Qing Tian
X C1-065 Hot Hero (火爆英雄)
X C1-066 ???
X C1-067 Robin Hood
X C1-068 The Golden Pyramid
X C1-069 Riddle of the Ancient Tomb
O C1-070 Insect War
Multi-game cartridges
X C1-401 4-in-1 (Mini Golf, Cube-Up, Brick Master, and Vindicators)
K1 series
X K1-001 One Million Whys (緑野迷蹤)
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We still have 5 unknown titles, and to be honest I've never seen photographic evidence of C1-020 Bad Bud Chou Chu's Adventure, C1-030 Beach Volley Ball or C1-034 SuperBoy. Heck, C1-070 Insect War was a big surprise to me when it surfaced.
BTW, the darn thing just came out 2 days ago but I would consider trading my opened but gently used PS4 to you if you could fill in enough of my X's with O's. ;)
I'd also trade my PS4 for the Super A'Can game F012: Rebel Star.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Barver on November 18, 2013, 03:19:19 AM- Have you seen the video on Youtube for Rebel Star? Not worth a PS4 :P Though I'd like to get all undumped games just so I could get them dumped so we can see progress with MESS's A'can emulation. Been eying Ruten forever but nothing not dumped ever comes up these days.
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Post by: fcgamer on November 18, 2013, 06:25:14 AM
- Mr. Postman
- Nov 17 2013, 11:01:52 PM
Mr. Macaw, may I ask which titles you own? I've copied and pasted the wikipedia list, and have put an "O" by those that I own and an "X" by those that I do not.
O C1-001 Cube-Up
O C1-002 Witty Apee
X C1-003 Box Forum
O C1-004 Mighty Tank
O C1-005 Enchanted Bricks
O C1-006 Mini Golf
O C1-007 Galaxy Invaders
O C1-008 Legend of Dragon Knight
O C1-009 Tornado
X C1-010 Bump N' Run
O C1-011 Money Maze
X C1-012 Pharaoh Revenger
O C1-013 Dino Bibo
O C1-014 Time Warrior
O C1-015 Kill Shot
X C1-016 Volcano Panic
O C1-017 Devil Castle
O C1-018 Kung-Fu Fighter
O C1-019 Dino Ball
X C1-020 Bad Bud Chou Chu's Adventure
O C1-021 Myth of Asamia
O C1-022 Pipemania
X C1-023 Tennis
X C1-024 Marauder
X C1-025 Jackpot
X C1-026 Flipuzzle
O C1-027 Monster Pitfall
O C1-028 Vindicators
O C1-029 Brick Blaster
X C1-030 Beach Volleyball
O C1-031 Bomb Blaster
O C1-032 Cosmic Fighter
X C1-033 Fist of Thunder
X C1-034 Superboy
O C1-035 Treasure Hunter
O C1-036 Jewelriss
O C1-037 Nightmare of Santa Claus
X C1-038 Mars Voyage
X C1-039 Fortress of Fierceness
X C1-040 Incantational Couple
O C1-041 Mighty Boxer
X C1-042 Flying Goblin
O C1-043 Boom!
O C1-044 Snowman Legend
X C1-045 World Cup Soccer
O C1-046 Kiki Inland (Kiki Island)
O C1-047 Fortune 'n Luck
O C1-048 Baseball (Super Baseball)
X C1-049 Punk Boy
X C1-050 Fortress Of Fierceness
X C1-051 ???
O C1-052 Famous (7 Famous)
X C1-053 Metamorphosiser (Tough Guy)
O C1-054 Magic Jigsaw
X C1-055 ???
O C1-056 GP Race
O C1-057 Fantasy Travel
X C1-058 Heaven Clash
X C1-059 ???
O C1-060 Further Adventures of Hannibal The Cat
O C1-061 Dinosaur Park
X C1-062 ???
O C1-063 Basketball
X C1-064 Bao Qing Tian
X C1-065 Hot Hero (火爆英雄)
X C1-066 ???
X C1-067 Robin Hood
X C1-068 The Golden Pyramid
X C1-069 Riddle of the Ancient Tomb
O C1-070 Insect War
Multi-game cartridges
X C1-401 4-in-1 (Mini Golf, Cube-Up, Brick Master, and Vindicators)
K1 series
X K1-001 One Million Whys (緑野迷蹤)
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We still have 5 unknown titles, and to be honest I've never seen photographic evidence of C1-020 Bad Bud Chou Chu's Adventure, C1-030 Beach Volley Ball or C1-034 SuperBoy. Heck, C1-070 Insect War was a big surprise to me when it surfaced.
BTW, the darn thing just came out 2 days ago but I would consider trading my opened but gently used PS4 to you if you could fill in enough of my X's with O's. ;)
I'd also trade my PS4 for the Super A'Can game F012: Rebel Star.[/quote]I really want that Rebel Star game too, and just missed out on one not so long ago.
I have nine of the 12 Super A'can games CIB, a few are even sealed. I want to complete this collection sooner rather than later, but it has been stagnant since about a year ago, when I found a game...since then, I have been sitting at 75% endlessly. :(- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on November 18, 2013, 08:44:17 PM
- Barver
- Nov 18 2013, 03:19:19 AM
Have you seen the video on Youtube for Rebel Star? Not worth a PS4 :P Though I'd like to get all undumped games just so I could get them dumped so we can see progress with MESS's A'can emulation. Been eying Ruten forever but nothing not dumped ever comes up these days.[/quote]I just looked up the video, I'm incredibly disappointed to be honest. I always thought it was going to be a Raiden-like Shmup game, not a turn based strategy game. :(
Looks like I'll be sticking with the Gamate, as the rare titles for it are actually fun for the most part.
Don't know if linked images automatically resize here or if large images are frowned upon, but here's the back covers for both Flying Goblin & Heaven Clash. It's really funny how UMC used essentially the same description for Flying Goblin as for Mars Voyage.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Flying-Goblin-Gamate-UMC-Bit-Corp-C1-042-CIB-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjky/z/cVEAAMXQWzNShwZv/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Heaven-Clash-Quiz-Fighter-Gamate-UMC-Bit-Corp-C1-058-CIB-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjcz/z/KBgAAMXQUmFShwlx/$_57.JPG)- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on November 19, 2013, 12:48:06 AM- Did you manage to grab those ebay auctions or did someone else beat you to em? I've been super lazy for about a year now and just occasionally go into ebay and search the completed listings lol.
I cant remember all my games, but some of the rarer ones i have include Mars Voyage, Volcano Panic, Punk Boy, Metamorphosiser, Ancient Tomb, Bao Qing Tian, Golden Pyramid and Robin Hood.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on November 19, 2013, 09:28:58 PM
- Macaw
- Nov 19 2013, 12:48:06 AM
Did you manage to grab those ebay auctions or did someone else beat you to em? I've been super lazy for about a year now and just occasionally go into ebay and search the completed listings lol.
I cant remember all my games, but some of the rarer ones i have include Mars Voyage, Volcano Panic, Punk Boy, Metamorphosiser, Ancient Tomb, Bao Qing Tian, Golden Pyramid and Robin Hood.[/quote]Nope, I missed those auctions. They must have sold within hours of showing up on eBay.
You have some nice rare games, none of which I own. It's funny, if you break down the card rarity to common, uncommon, rare & super rare and go through the full list of games released for the system, almost half of them fall into the "super rare" category.
BTW, I picked up my Gamate stuff from storage today. I played C1-041 Mighty Boxer for the first time, and it's not so great. You select your character which have different portraits, names, and originate from from the USA, Japan, China, Brazil or England. That's where buck stops, in-game the characters are the same sprite with a different shade of grey for skin tone. You move around a large ring with the D-Pad, B button blocks and the A button punches. The D-Pad movement is fine, but punching and blocking has a tremendous amount of input lag/is generally unresponsive. One final thing worth mentioning is that it is a 2P link cable game. My guess is that this middle-period game was mostly finished before UMC got their hands on it.
I did pop in C1-061 Dinosaur Park for ya'. It's a knock off My neighbor Totoro fighting game. Besides the single character story mode, you can indeed play as 8 different characters in "Battle Mode". The eight characters comprise of a little girl with a folded up umbrella, a slightly older little girl, a little boy with a hat (Kanta clone) , a Totoro-clone (which is Hannibal) , a mole, a Susuwatari clone fuzzy black-ball thing, a cat (shown as a cat-bus in the character portrait, but is just a large fat cat during gameplay) & a frog. Sorry, no Dinosaurs in this park. In battle mode there is also a stage select in which you can choose from 8 different backgrounds. I don't believe you can execute any special moves, just punch and kick buttons. There is an English language setting under options which is pretty cool, though.
C1-060 Further Adventures of Hannibal the cat is another Gradius clone and has all the standard Gradius power-up options, except you play as a Totoro clone character instead of a space ship. Look back to Dinosaur Park to understand where the "Further adventures" part comes in (even though Further adventures came first, I imagine they were programmed at the same time since they were released back to back... or the missing number C1-059 is also Hannibal related? Curious if the missing C1-062 is also relevant?). The blurry screen renders it nearly unplayable, but I must mention that my only Gamate that had one of the good checkerboard screens broke a long long time ago. The options menu lets you choose between 1-5 lives, difficulty setting 1-5, and has a password based save system. Unlike Insect War, this game does not have a stage-select option.
I've never seen the 1988 Studio Ghibli film My Neighbor Totoro, but it must have been pretty popular since UMC was still so obsessed with it in the early 90s. You'd think since both Dinosaur Park and Further Adventures are shameless Totoro-inspired games, that they'd have made even the slightest effort to give them Totoro-inspired box art so that they could sell more copies? *Swing and a Miss*
Having two UMC Gamate games featuring this Totoro inspired character named Hannibal the Cat is not a coincidence. I wonder if UMC was planning on replacing Bit-Corp's lowly & significantly unknown SuperBoy with a fresher mascot to help out with the new UMC era? If C-059 & or C-62 also end up being Hannibal related I'm going to be chock-full of "warm UMC fuzzies". :)
UMC's cover artwork for the character Hannibal the Cat depicts him as a mix between a Bubble Bobble Dinosaur, but with a Cat like nose and whiskers. He also has Alien antenni & carries an umbrella. In-game sprites of him look like Studio Ghibli's Totoro though.
I hate post-merge, but I imagine this will be since I was the last poster.
What do you guys think about the middle-era to full blown UMC era? A big problem is that they overlap and some backlog middle era titles are all over the place. The middle era titles show up in numbers as early as C1-008 to as late as C1-054. I believe the easiest way to help identify the era of a Gamate game is by the font on it's card label itself. Of course I'm sure there are exceptions, but we need to start somewhere.
The earliest Bit Corp Era games will have the "C1" card number printed in the center of a tiny silver ribbon on the bottom right-hand corner on the game card's label. Middle-era games will simply have the card number printed on the label with no background around it at all. There There are two different middle era categories, those finished by UMC & those not. For this lists sake I'm going to bundle them into the same category. UMC era games have the card number printed in a large Oval on the bottom of the label in a painfully obvious fashion as follows: (GAMATE CARD C1-0XX). Middle era games are mostly unfinished or unreleased Bit Corp games that UMC finished or published at some point in time. The rarity varies vastly for the mid era games, but almost all of them are rarer than the silver ribbon Bit Corp titles.
I believe early Mid-era titles were still most likely finished by Bit Corp, and the later-middle era titles were most likely finished by UMC. The later Middle era titles usually have a large rectangular UMC sticker on the bottom left of the back of the game boxes (EDIT: The Gamate Seal of Quality on card labels seems to be a more accurate way to gauge mid-era titles).
Worth noting, UMC Games usually have UMC style boxes with the bottom white border and 4 big dots progressing in size. The only game in question is Kiki Island which has been released as both a later mid-era and UMC-era title. Kiki is such a wonderful game, I highly doubt that Bit Corp did much for it which would explain why UMC later released it with a UMC label. That's the one strange case and exception to the rule.
Using the above as a guide, lets see how each of the games rank.
*EDIT: I Have updated the list to reflect mid-era games that came with the Gamate seal of Quality on the card label. "Seal of Quality" games will be listed as with (SOQ), the majority of early mid-are games will fall into this category. Most of the rarer later middle era titles will not have a Seal of Quality (No SOQ).
I am attempting to have a go at rarity, at this point in time I have not tackled Italian GIG vs Non GIG comparisons. Italian GIG releases are generally easier to find.
C1-001 Cube-Up ***Bit Corp era #Common
C1-002 Witty Apee ***Bit Corp era #Rare (Gamate™ Card-back #Super Rare)
C1-003 Box Forum ***Mid era (SOQ) #Uncommon
C1-004 Mighty Tank ***Bit Corp era #Rare
C1-005 Enchanted Bricks ***Bit Corp era #Rare (Gamate™ Card-back #Super Rare)
C1-006 Mini Golf ***Bit Corp era #Common
C1-007 Galaxy Invaders ***Bit Corp era #Common
C1-008 Legend of Dragon Knight ***Mid era (SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-009 Tornado ***Bit Corp era #Common
C1-010 Bump N' Run ***(Have not seen label) #Ultra Rare
C1-011 Money Maze ***Bit Corp era #Common (Gamate™ Card-back #Super Rare)
C1-012 Pharaoh Revenger ***Bit Corp era #Rare
C1-013 Dino Bibo ***Mid era (SOQ) #Rare
C1-014 Time Warrior ***Bit Corp era #Uncommon
C1-015 Kill Shot ***Mid era (SOQ) #Uncommon (No SOQ #Rare)
C1-016 Volcano Panic ***Mid era (with or without SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-017 Devil Castle ***Mid era (SOQ) #Rare (No SOQ #Super Rare)
C1-018 Kung-Fu Fighter ***Bit Corp era #Common (Light-Grey card #Ultra Rare)
C1-019 Dino Ball ***Mid era (SOQ) #Uncommon
C1-020 Bad Bud Chou Chu's Adventure ***(Have not seen label) #Ultra Rare
C1-021 Myth of Asamia ***Bit Corp era #Uncommon (Light-Grey card #Ultra Rare)
C1-022 Pipemania ***Mid era (SOQ) #Common
C1-023 Tennis ***Bit Corp era #Uncommon
C1-024 Marauder ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Rare
C1-025 Jackpot ***(Have not seen label)
C1-026 Flipuzzle ***Mid era (SOQ) #Uncommon
C1-027 Monster Pitfall ***Bit Corp era #Common (Light-Grey card #Ultra Rare)
C1-028 Vindicators ***Bit Corp era #Common
C1-029 Brick Blaster ***Bit Corp era #Common (#Rare Boxed)
C1-030 Beach Volleyball ***(Have not seen label) #Ultra Rare
C1-031 Bomb Blaster ***Bit Corp era #Common (Gamate™ Card-back #Super Rare)
C1-032 Cosmic Fighter ***Bit Corp era #Common
C1-033 Fist of Thunder ***(Have not seen label) #Super Rare
C1-034 Superboy ***(Have not seen label) #Ultra Rare
C1-035 Treasure Hunter ***Bit Corp era #Uncommon
C1-036 Jewelriss ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-037 Nightmare of Santa Claus ***Bit Corp era #Uncommon (Light-Grey card #Ultra Rare)
C1-038 Mars Voyage ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-039 Fortress of Fierceness ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-040 Incantational Couple ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-041 Mighty Boxer ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-042 Flying Goblin ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-043 Boom! ***Bit Corp era #Uncommon
C1-044 Snowman Legend ***Bit Corp era #Uncommon
C1-045 World Soccer ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-046 Kiki Inland (Kiki Island) ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare (UMC era label #Ultra Rare)
C1-047 Fortune 'n Luck ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-048 Baseball (Super Baseball) ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-049 Punk Boy ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-050 Fortress Of Fierceness ***Mid era (No SOQ) #Super Rare
C1-051 ??? - Unknown title #Ultra Rare
C1-052 Famous (7 Famous) ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-053 Metamorphosiser (Tough Guy) ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-054 Magic Jigsaw ***Mid era (SOQ) #Uncommon
C1-055 ??? - Unknown title #Ultra Rare
C1-056 GP Race ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-057 Fantasy Travel ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-058 Heaven Clash ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-059 ??? - Unknown title #Ultra Rare
C1-060 Further Adventures of Hannibal The Cat ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-061 Dinosaur Park ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-062 ??? - Unknown title #Ultra Rare
C1-063 Basketball ***UMC era #Ultra Rare
C1-064 Bao Qing Tian ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-065 Hot Hero (火爆英雄) ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-066 ??? - Unknown title #Super Rare
C1-067 Robin Hood ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-068 The Golden Pyramid ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-069 Riddle of the Ancient Tomb ***UMC era #Super Rare
C1-070 Insect War ***UMC era #Ultra Rare
Multi-game cartridges
C1-401 4-in-1 (Mini Golf, Cube-Up, Brick Master, and Vindicators) ***Three variations:
(Copyright Bit Corp in red, words 4-in1 in blue) #Rare
(Copyright Bit Corp in blue, words 4-in1 in red) #Rare
(GAMATE CARD CI-401, words 4-in-1 in red) <-- UMC? #Super Rare
K1 series
K1-001 One Million Whys (緑野迷蹤) ***UMC era #Super Rare
I hope that this list will help give some insight about the different labels variations.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on November 21, 2013, 03:02:07 AM- A little help from the hardcore Gamate collectors, can anyone identify these grey cards? The area for the two chips is larger, and the artwork is actually actually more crisp than the retail releases. The stereo audio track plays through the mono speaker without the need of headphones, and the demo sequence played in a different order on Monster pitfall.
(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u503/bitcorp/gw1.png)
(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u503/bitcorp/gw2.png)
(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u503/bitcorp/gw3.png)
(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u503/bitcorp/gw4.png)
(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u503/bitcorp/gw5.png)- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on November 22, 2013, 01:09:59 AM- In regards to the middle UMC era, you have to keep in mind that TONNES of the games were released with UMC stickers covering the old bit corp stuff, though some copies dont have the UMC stickers, which were obviously sold before UMC took over.
EVERY SINGLE GAME before #58 Heaven Clash is just random. Random development teams, games with or without credits, shocking differences in quality, and in most cases the designs were clones of other games. Would need to interview an old bit corp or UMC guy to get more of the story.
In regards to the grey cards, packaging changes and anomalies were common in heaps of games. No idea where those newer version grey cards originated and why.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on November 22, 2013, 02:01:10 AM
- Macaw
- Nov 22 2013, 01:09:59 AM
In regards to the middle UMC era, you have to keep in mind that TONNES of the games were released with UMC stickers covering the old bit corp stuff, though some copies dont have the UMC stickers, which were obviously sold before UMC took over.
EVERY SINGLE GAME before #58 Heaven Clash is just random. Random development teams, games with or without credits, shocking differences in quality, and in most cases the designs were clones of other games. Would need to interview an old bit corp or UMC guy to get more of the story.
In regards to the grey cards, packaging changes and anomalies were common in heaps of games. No idea where those newer version grey cards originated and why.[/quote]Wonderful, thanks for the info. I was hoping that we could narrow it down by the label style/packaging. Clearly games like Kill Shot & Box Forum are not in the same league as Mars Voyage or Volcano Panic.
Can we determine the difference of the early mid-era titles from late mid-era by the Gamate seal of Approval on the cart labels? Legend of Dragon Knight and Volcano Panic are the only two really rare lower number games that I've seen advertised next to common titles. How many non-silver ribbon titles come in variations both with or without the Seal of Quality besides Devil Castle, Volcano Panic, (and maybe Kill-Shot)? It appears that the vast majority of non-silver label cards that are lacking the Gamate seal fall under super rare? I'll update the list in my last post with the Seal of Quality status.
I have to disagree about Heaven clash being the definitive start of the full blown cataloged UMC era, C1-049 Punk Boy, C1-052 Famous (7 Famous), C1-053 Metamorphosiser (Tough Guy), C1-056 GP Race & C1-057 Fantasy Travel are all exclusively Asian release UMC era games as far as I know. From what I've seen, the only title to come both with or without the Asian release UMC Oval card label is Kiki Inland, and that was Jonothan Lux's UMC card. My two copies of Kiki Inland unfortunately do not have the cool UMC label. While it's maybe not a UMC Asian exclusive, Kiki is the earliest title that I've ever seen with that modern label. I think we can both agree that any game with the UMC label is awesome. If you meant 100% consecutive chronilogical UMC releases, it would start at probably C1-055 or definitely C1-056, not 58. I don't know why that would matter so much anyway since the release numbers do overlap.
As for the grey games, I got them in a small lot along side a boxed Gamate™ (Trademark) X D-pad console, which logically came before the Gamate® (All Rights Reserved) + D-pad console. They're definitely not newer cards. I do have 4 of the very dark-grey cards with the Gamate™ console pictured on the back, but I don't believe they're as rare.
Thanks again for all your info, Macaw. :)
Edit: I've updated the list. Please let me know what you think, or if you have any corrections. I agree wholeheartedly that the games were not always released chronologically in the Pre-True UMC era. I think and hope that you'll notice the same trends as I do with the label variations. ^_^
I've also tried my best to add rarity on a scale from 1-5, Common, Uncommon, Rare, Super Rare & Ultra Rare. This is a difficult task since so many games are uber rare with only 1, 2 or 3 copies known. I found it the most difficult to differentiate between common and uncommon on some titles. A scale of 1-10 would be more ideal, but IMO we just don't have that kind of data yet. Titles ranked Ultra Rare have either only one copy known in existence, or is still unknown/unconfirmed. If a second copy of a confirmed Ultra Rare game pops up, it should probably be moved to the Super Rare category. I will work hard on this list, and try to differentiate from the more common Italian GIG releases and international releases in the future.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: MLX on November 23, 2013, 06:51:16 AM- http://www.ebay.com/itm/GAMATE-CONSOLE-BOXED-NEW-WITH-16-GAMES-10-BOXED-MOST-SEALED-/131052031724?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e834f4eec (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GAMATE-CONSOLE-BOXED-NEW-WITH-16-GAMES-10-BOXED-MOST-SEALED-/131052031724?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e834f4eec)
EDIT: link fixed, I can't into copy pasting.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Macaw on December 02, 2013, 09:44:38 PM
- Quote:
Those early titles with the UMC packaging (Punk Boy, Metamorphosiser etc) all have english instructions and boxes though, I still have no idea whether earlier titles released in asia actually came with Chinese instructions (I know they just use the same english boxes).
I have a boxed copy of Fist of Thunder and the instructions are in Chinese, which is pretty weird.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: jfmateos on September 30, 2014, 11:49:19 AM- Hi,
I am investigating how to dump gamate games.
A few persons from different forums/mail are already helping.
I am trying to find more people interested in helping with this effort; any help will be welcome.
For example, a hi-res photo of the contacts in the 4-in-1 card could help.
Please, if you are interested, contact with me here or through: vectrex@hackermesh.org- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: etabeta78 on December 07, 2014, 02:14:57 AM- I think these links might be relevant in this topic ;)
http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=97287#Post97287 (http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=97287#Post97287)
http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=97288#Post97288 (http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=97288#Post97288)- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: taizou on December 08, 2014, 10:04:16 PM- yeah this is super cool :D i'm amazed how fast progress has been made really
- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Postman on March 13, 2016, 10:13:47 PM- Hi Taizou & old friends,
I'm sure we've all been busy with our lives, and I hope everyone is well.
Anyhoo, i'm looking for the following titles to complete my collection of the *known* Gamate titles. ATM I will pay $100 each for the titles listed below:
Fist of Thunder
Mars Voyage
Incantational Couple
Flying Goblin
World Cup Soccer
Fortress Of Fierceness
Metamorphosiser
Heaven Clash
Bao Qing Tian
Hot Hero (火爆英雄)
Robin Hood
Riddle of the Ancient Tomb
Please contact me directly at
ms.postman@yahoo.com
(Yes thats "Ms", like Ms. Pac-Man)
Peace & love.
- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: MLX on September 25, 2016, 08:58:31 AM- The Gamate has been reverse engineered completly apparently?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8TwytwU7Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8TwytwU7Q)- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Ninjinister on February 06, 2017, 11:11:15 PM- Hello folks!
I know this discussion's a bit old, but seeing as how it was resurrected once already at least, I feel like I'm in the clear.
(also I was sure I had an account here already from eons ago, but none of my email accounts that I've used in the last decade triggered a password reminder/reset. Irrelevant, though!)
I had come across the existence of the Gamate some time ago but I had gotten sidetracked when researching and was reminded of it when they finally added it to Giant Bomb. I'd been also low-key looking for the console itself and some games but I never did find the system at an affordable price for me (I'd seen in message board topics that the system had often changed hands for $100-130 US with a game or two, but the only one in that price range right now on eBay has a messed up screen).
Anyway, I was hoping that some of y'alls could help with producing some decent cover/cart scans and/or manuals for the games so I can catalogue them on Giant Bomb and other places (or you could add the info yourself... I'm looking for it to be compiled but am not a credit hog). The information isn't really out there (Drill Spirits seems to have the most complete record of the console and even that's missing a LOOOOT of information) so that this content is way more accessible.
(I'd also been looking for ROMs but from what I can tell no more ROM links are allowed? Or is that just the Wiki?)
Thanks for anything you'd be able to assist with!- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Razor Koopa on May 09, 2017, 04:13:51 AM- If someone is interested, I found the complete hardware of the gamate:
CPU: NCR 81489 at 8 bit
RAM: 16KB
Video: monocromatic LCD screen with a resolution of 128*96
Audio: mono, stereo with the headset
Support: cartdridge with a maximum 2KB memory
Autonomy: 5h declared (4 AA batteries)
- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: zhongtiao1 on August 08, 2017, 01:22:43 AM- I found an interesting listing on taobao today:
taobao (https://world.taobao.com/item/549646079483.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-9160707830.110.261542c3sItkQl)
It's for a front-lit Gamate, but what is interesting is the game it shows running. What game is it? I've never seen it mentioned before- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: ProBoTector23 on August 13, 2017, 04:05:25 AM
- MLX
- Sep 25 2016, 08:58:31 AM
The Gamate has been reverse engineered completly apparently?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8TwytwU7Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8TwytwU7Q)[/quote]Looking at the video and I well see that 11:50 is one of the game programmer is Tommy Xie? He seems to have worked at Bit Corp before he came to Dragon Co.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: taizou on August 26, 2017, 07:51:12 PM- It wasn't at Bit Corp exactly but it was an outsourced operation in mainland China (Xi'an), apparently started by Bit Corp and passed to UMC after their bankruptcy
- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Ninjinister on August 31, 2017, 09:35:14 PM
- zhongtiao1
- Aug 8 2017, 01:22:43 AM
I found an interesting listing on taobao today:
taobao (https://world.taobao.com/item/549646079483.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-9160707830.110.261542c3sItkQl)
It's for a front-lit Gamate, but what is interesting is the game it shows running. What game is it? I've never seen it mentioned before[/quote]Looks familiar but I can't place it. I could have sworn there was a pic of it on this forum, but if there was, it might've gotten eaten by Photobucket's nonsense.- Title: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Razor Koopa on November 14, 2017, 11:34:00 AM- I found a picture of a white Gamate and an old auction for one of those:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/271331389931 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/271331389931)
Attachments:
- Gamate_bianco.jpg (89.97 KB) (http://b3.ifrm.com/30023/163/0/p3005362/Gamate_bianco.jpg)
- Title: Re: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Ninjinister on May 29, 2019, 01:47:26 AM- So looking at Tough Guy...
It's literally TMNT: Fall of the Foot Clan.
It's not a clone. It IS that game with very few graphic changes.
HILARIOUS- Title: Re: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Ninjinister on February 20, 2020, 08:03:14 AM- Somebody's got Heaven Clash/Quiz Fighter up on eBay if anybody's interested
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gamate-Heaven-Clash-C1-058/223845435184
I'd love it for my fighting game collection, but that's out of my price range (plus I still don't have a Gamate anyway)
If anybody here gets it, it'd be great to get HQ scans of the cart and manual- Title: Re: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Ninjinister on August 11, 2022, 09:41:33 PM- Here's a complete Dinosaur Park
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184703697283
Again, no Gamate or funds for this (especially now for the latter), but this would be a preservationist's dream. Would love to have a look in that manual and get good scans of those stickers.- Title: Re: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Mr. Sound-About on August 23, 2022, 06:46:07 AM
*burp*
https://www.diskman.com/presents/scans/Dinosaur_Park_(Gamate)_-_stickers.pdf
https://www.diskman.com/presents/scans/Dinosaur_Park_(Gamate)_-_manual.pdf
You can re-order the pages by number yourself, as I can't be bothered.- Title: Re: Gamate Discussion
Post by: Ninjinister on September 03, 2022, 08:07:14 AM
*burp*
https://www.diskman.com/presents/scans/Dinosaur_Park_(Gamate)_-_stickers.pdf
https://www.diskman.com/presents/scans/Dinosaur_Park_(Gamate)_-_manual.pdf
You can re-order the pages by number yourself, as I can't be bothered.
Holy cow MOVE LISTS! This is better than I had hoped.
Once again, thank you so much!