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Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: taizou on September 20, 2011, 09:05:46 PM
reposted from the staff forum:

a while back I discovered this site http://www.istudy666.cn (http://www.istudy666.cn) run by Subor and providing downloads for various SD-slot equipped consoles and educational... things.

if you want to explore the site yourself, the first page is just a server selection, all servers have the same stuff. the next page is all the Subor products they have downloads for, the middle column is game consoles and the like. depending on the system you'll find all manner of software and games, this mostly native stuff for the 32-bit SPG293 system most of them run on, which unfortunately means we can't do much with those since there's no SPG293 emulator (at least not a public one).

but one interesting thing i found buried in there was a pack of 198 8-bit games  - 8-bit meaning NES naturally. Now obviously Subor isnt just going to put these up there for any tom, dick or harry to download and play on their NES emulator, they're in a custom encrypted .wxn format (wxn = WaiXiNg/WaiXing NES?) but the filenames seemed to indicate it was full of Waixing cart games plus their built-in stuff from various famiclones.

now that might have been the end of it, but since some of those games are already dumped I was able to compare them against existing dumps and figure out the encryption. (and i was pretty damn surprised that I managed it, since I've never decrypted anything in my life. I can only assume that means Waixing's encryption totally sucks.)

(Incidentally these encrypted roms also have their own header format, I havent figured it out exactly but it is at least somewhat based on iNES - it has PRG and CHR sizes in the same place for example. instead of "NES" it starts with "mfc", and I have found old listings for a PSP-lookalike MP4 player which claims to play "MFC" games among others, so maybe this format has been used elsewhere at some point?)

anyway I wrote a program to decrypt them and i've now decrypted all 198 of the damn things. only 43 of those games will run in emulators as is - some are normal NES games, some are VT03 so theyre in EmuVT .bin format.
As for the remainder, there are basically two different problems that occur with them - some don't display the proper graphics, they seem to be failing to switch banks when they should (and this applies for VT03 too). Others don't run at all, especially the larger RPG games. I'm not sure if these are mapper issues or if there's something wrong with the way I'm decrypting them, or the Subor console's emulator does something unusual, or what. in the case of the VT03 games it's quite likely that I'm not converting them to .bin format properly though.


so! have some files:

http://www.mediafire.com/?675buu2isdddi (http://www.mediafire.com/?675buu2isdddi)

8位游戏合集数据包.rar - Original archive. Subor's servers are slow as hell so i'm rehosting it.
wxdec02.zip - Decryption program, for windows (requires .net framework 2.0). it can also attempt to convert .nes to EmuVT .bin but thats fairly preliminary
wxdec02src.zip - Source code. if anyone wants to improve it or anything.
wx-working.rar - All working roms, plus their original encrypted versions
wx-notworking.rar - Non working roms, including encrypted, decrypted .nes and .bin where applicable. one or two roms might have wrong names since I can't actually see the title screens in most cases, but I've tried to keep them fairly accurate.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Matias on September 21, 2011, 12:30:43 AM
Downloading it! Thanks! I'll post later.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Brn89 on September 21, 2011, 07:35:51 AM
Four of the games caught my attention. Golden Axe was a game mentioned in rinkaku's website years ago and is a fairly broken beat-em-up like Tian Wang Xiang Mo Zhuan, Jing Hua Yuan is one strange game where you move and shoot like in the Contra games and Zheng Jiu Shi Ji... good god, that looks like a poor man's Beyond Oasis and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do in it. Thanks for sharing anyway, Taizou.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Ninja-Kun on September 21, 2011, 11:07:50 AM
Thank you Taizou! I'm downloading now.
I can't believe it, it seems that Nice Code actually took the hassle of improving the shoddy controls of Magic Bubble/Strange Pop Pop/Russia/whatever. It still sucks, but at least it's playable.
Among the non-working ROMS there is a dump of the VT03 version of Rare's "Slalom". I thought this hack was made by Tech-Cube, not Waixing. If only we could actually play it =/
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: iniche on September 21, 2011, 01:44:08 PM
This is the most interesting thing I've read and found out about in a while.

It was brought to my attention that this ROM pack includes alternate palette versions of both Desert Storm and Super Fight I, but that they don't work. That sucks, really :( I was wondering if you could look into those ROM's in particular, see if there could be done something. Also, might cah4e3 know a thing or two about these locked/encrypted ROM's?

In addition, I see that it includes some vt03 dumps. Do you know if any of those include Contra clones/pirates?

Thanks.

EDIT: Took out the accidental double post. -KingPepe
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Awesome Panda on September 21, 2011, 02:00:31 PM
iniche
Sep 21 2011, 01:44:08 PM
Also, might cah4e3 know a thing or two about these locked/encrypted ROM's?[/quote]He does have a page of decrypted SmyNES ROMs on his site, but I've got no idea if he decrypted them or not.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: iniche on September 21, 2011, 02:22:35 PM
It's the HORRIBLE IE9.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: KAGE-008 on September 21, 2011, 05:03:01 PM
Byemu posted another version of "Ling Jie Hu Fa - Shock" on NESBBS a few weeks ago, but it crashes after beating the second stage. I tested it on FCEUX the first time. THEN I used VirtuaNES, Nestopia... but the same problem happens on them.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Ninja-Kun on September 21, 2011, 07:53:22 PM
I just noticed that in 'Five Kids' (the alternate version of Wonder Rabbit) you can actually change characters by pressing select! For the one time in their lives, Waixing made something right.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Linkrulezall on September 21, 2011, 08:21:20 PM
Ninja-Kun
Sep 21 2011, 07:53:22 PM
I just noticed that in 'Five Kids' (the alternate version of Wonder Rabbit) you can actually change characters by pressing select! For the one time in their lives, Waixing made something right.[/quote]If I may chime in here, There does exist an alternate version of Wonder Rabbit (from my DreamGear 86-in-1 which apparently can't be dumped) that does that too. It seems that someone at waixing realized that they screwed up, and then changed it Actually, The DreamGear 75-in-1 version came later, because the actual unit doesn't have a select button. Then again, the 86-in-1 didn't have one either, so..... ARGH! I'M CONFUSED!  O.o
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: taizou on September 21, 2011, 08:35:15 PM
I think it was probably made using the select button from the start, and they just replaced it with A+B for versions on consoles that didn't have one .. Dunno why you'd actually make a famiclone with no select button, but that's Trump Grand for you.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: codeman38 on September 22, 2011, 12:29:14 PM
Ninja-Kun
Sep 21 2011, 11:07:50 AM
Among the non-working ROMS there is a dump of the VT03 version of Rare's "Slalom". I thought this hack was made by Tech-Cube, not Waixing. If only we could actually play it =/[/quote]Waixing has licensed stuff from Cube Tech in the past, so not entirely surprising. Several games on the MiWi that have Waixing copyright numbers are also listed on Cube Tech's site.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: XandeR on September 23, 2011, 10:55:40 AM
Thank Taizou, a long time ago was the Golden Axe and I am very surprised with some games.

I found the version of the site in English http://en.istudy666.cn:84/ (http://en.istudy666.cn:84/)
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: taizou on September 23, 2011, 11:26:59 AM
hey, nice find! I was wondering if there was an English version, since there's definitely at least one English Subor console out there with an SD slot (the iSports Pro)
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: g0me3 on September 29, 2011, 02:22:48 AM
I have some of that dumps already from chinese friends, they wanted to emulate them too, and most of it couldn't be emulated by unknown reasons ;)

From this pack I have some games working on OneBus mapper (Desert Storm), some of 176 mapper games (Grandia) but need to be resetted before they work ;) the rest is probably can't be emulated due to some kind of data protection, don't know for sure... at least some of them is mapper 164/163 alike, need more researches ;)
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: SonicZfan on September 29, 2011, 11:51:37 AM
g0me3
Sep 29 2011, 02:22:48 AM
I have some of that dumps already from chinese friends, they wanted to emulate them too, and most of it couldn't be emulated by unknown reasons ;)

From this pack I have some games working on OneBus mapper (Desert Storm), some of 176 mapper games (Grandia) but need to be resetted before they work ;) the rest is probably can't be emulated due to some kind of data protection, don't know for sure... at least some of them is mapper 164/163 alike, need more researches ;)[/quote]I'm Not Chinese!!! O.o Lol But yeah thx again CaH4e3.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Doomkid on September 29, 2011, 03:12:08 PM
SonicZfan
Sep 29 2011, 11:51:37 AM
I'm Not Chinese!!! O.o Lol But yeah thx again CaH4e3.
[/quote]lol, I believe he's saying 'our Chinese freinds', AKA all the China based pirates out there. :P
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: SonicZfan on September 29, 2011, 04:01:58 PM
Faceplant
Sep 29 2011, 03:12:08 PM
SonicZfan
Sep 29 2011, 11:51:37 AM
I'm Not Chinese!!! O.o Lol But yeah thx again CaH4e3.
[/quote]lol, I believe he's saying 'our Chinese freinds', AKA all the China based pirates out there. :P[/quote]Oops, XD I thought it was cause i sent him the desert storm image asking him if he could help, lol  :lol:
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: KAGE-008 on September 29, 2011, 07:57:26 PM
g0me3
Sep 29 2011, 02:22:48 AM
I have some of that dumps already from chinese friends, they wanted to emulate them too, and most of it couldn't be emulated by unknown reasons ;)

From this pack I have some games working on OneBus mapper (Desert Storm), some of 176 mapper games (Grandia) but need to be resetted before they work ;) the rest is probably can't be emulated due to some kind of data protection, don't know for sure... at least some of them is mapper 164/163 alike, need more researches ;)[/quote]Cool, thanks for the information. BTW, I tried it on its iNES mapper (220) but it displays distorted graphics... Could you repair it for your next FCEUmm build?
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: g0me3 on October 03, 2011, 01:44:49 PM
SonicZfan, there is another people that sent me some roms before you ;)

KAGE-008, mapper 220 is just a test or debug mapper i'm using, it's just for easily test new mappers, no need to make unif roms all the time ;) OneBus just now can be assigned only as UNIF board.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: KAGE-008 on October 03, 2011, 05:22:41 PM
g0me3
Oct 3 2011, 01:44:49 PM
KAGE-008, mapper 220 is just a test or debug mapper i'm using, it's just for easily test new mappers, no need to make unif roms all the time ;) OneBus just now can be assigned only as UNIF board.[/quote]Yeah, but I also tried with the UNIF board, and the same problem happened. Here's an screenshot showing the issue in Desert Storm ROM:
(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7503/desertstormnes.png)
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: iniche on October 07, 2011, 05:22:45 PM
Kage, can you put up your version of the Desert Storm ROM? A friend of mine wants to take a look and compare versions.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: KAGE-008 on October 07, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
iniche
Oct 7 2011, 05:22:45 PM
Kage, can you put up your version of the Desert Storm ROM? A friend of mine wants to take a look and compare versions.[/quote]Done.  :) - http://www.mediafire.com/?5ybcu1dpd4n29fx (http://www.mediafire.com/?5ybcu1dpd4n29fx)
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Awesome Panda on October 07, 2011, 06:50:08 PM
From looking at the ROM with a tile editor, I think it's not working because the CHR-ROM is all screwed up. There's gaps between most of the tiles which (presumably) shouldn't be there.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: KAGE-008 on October 07, 2011, 07:09:16 PM
Cheetahmen
Oct 7 2011, 06:50:08 PM
From looking at the ROM with a tile editor, I think it's not working because the CHR-ROM is all screwed up. There's gaps between most of the tiles which (presumably) shouldn't be there.[/quote]Here's another version of the ROM, in UNIF format: http://www.mediafire.com/?aa403donugc9auh (http://www.mediafire.com/?aa403donugc9auh)
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: taizou on October 07, 2011, 07:18:13 PM
well its a VT03 game isn't it? they will look like they have gaps between the tiles if you view them in standard NES mode.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Awesome Panda on October 07, 2011, 07:22:59 PM
taizou
Oct 7 2011, 07:18:13 PM
well its a VT03 game isn't it? they will look like they have gaps between the tiles if you view them in standard NES mode.[/quote]Oh right. That raises another point though; if it's a VT03 game then shouldn't its size be something like 256k or 512k instead? All of the other ones I've seen are either 32k or 64k.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: taizou on October 07, 2011, 08:16:37 PM
Yeah, the .bin converted version is 1024k, just the .nes format one isn't.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: SonicZfan on October 07, 2011, 09:31:51 PM
taizou
Oct 7 2011, 08:16:37 PM
Yeah, the .bin converted version is 1024k, just the .nes format one isn't. [/quote]So..when, you convert to Bin it loses something? Or idk, yeah im nub lol.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: iniche on October 08, 2011, 01:19:49 AM
Something tells me that there really is no corruption; that most of the ROM's in the pack make use of some form of coding that current emulation doesn't support/recognize. They're probably not the conventional ROM's and certain hardware runs these things, only that hardware has not been implemented for emulation yet.

Just my guess.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Awesome Panda on October 08, 2011, 05:40:00 AM
iniche
Oct 8 2011, 01:19:49 AM
Something tells me that there really is no corruption; that most of the ROM's in the pack make use of some form of coding that current emulation doesn't support/recognize. They're probably not the conventional ROM's and certain hardware runs these things, only that hardware has not been implemented for emulation yet.

Just my guess.[/quote]If that's the case, then CaH4e3 could probably implement a UNIF file for it.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: taizou on October 08, 2011, 09:44:50 AM
iniche
Oct 8 2011, 01:19:49 AM
Something tells me that there really is no corruption; that most of the ROM's in the pack make use of some form of coding that current emulation doesn't support/recognize. They're probably not the conventional ROM's and certain hardware runs these things, only that hardware has not been implemented for emulation yet.

Just my guess.[/quote]Yeah, I think you might be right. They're designed to be run through Subor/Waixing's own emulator for their 32bit Sunplus consoles - there's nothing to say they didn't modify their emulator's functionality to do stuff a normal NES (or VT03) emulator wouldn't be capable of.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: iniche on October 08, 2011, 02:51:28 PM
My friend (the same that requested Kage's UNIF version of Desert Storm) got Desert Storm to work, though not perfectly, using some funky methods. I tell you, he's boss and he could really be a contribution to the pirate game ROM scene... I just hope he'll change his mind one day and join the forum :P

Taizou, you mentioned that they're meant to be run through one of Waixing's emulators for a clone system. If that's so, is this emulator available, even if restricted access?
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: taizou on October 08, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
I think you can download it from istudy666.cn somewhere - there are files for a NES/GBC emulator but I think the consoles can run .wxn games natively so maybe its included in the system files, I'm not 100% though since I don't own one.

 but it's useless unless you actually own one the consoles in question, you'd need an emulator for the Sunplus hardware to emulate the emulator (...) and there isn't one that I know of.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Linkrulezall on October 08, 2011, 03:20:47 PM
Anyone said Sunplus? M.E.S.S. has some 16-bit sunplus emulation going on (for the Vii). So make of that what you will.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: taizou on October 08, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
Yeah, the MESS emulator is 16-bit, Subor's SD based consoles are 32-bit and AFAIK its a completely different architecture unfortunately.

Its cool that theyre emulating it though, it'd be interesting to see some other Sunplus consoles dumped that maybe could run on the thing. Although there are a bunch of different 16-bit Sunplus chips and I dunno how compatible they all are with one another...
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: RVVD4029 on February 19, 2015, 11:20:05 AM
Taizou i think by vt03 they mean they just changed the header. They didn't change the programming. They just changed header only.
Taizou can you please fix Sui Tang Yan Yi from the rom pack please?. I looked through it's graphics and it tells me it is a hack of aladdin 2 or a rpg.
Also i would just like to make a quick note i saw a title screen hack of one of the games from the rom pack already on the superarcade 110.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: RVVD4029 on March 16, 2015, 08:39:37 AM
Taizou i think mfc refers to the ipod clone consoles by the same company.
Taizou just a guess. There are probably vt02 versions of all the games in the pack already. Just that the roms in the pack just contain the graphics or palette. Not the actual engine the roms use. Just a guess.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: RVVD4029 on May 30, 2015, 11:30:00 PM
Iniche it turns out it is either padding or mapper related the roms yes.
Awesome panda they get smaller when they are unpadded.
Taizou about the wxn emulator. Is it open source or can you buy it on the official website?
Taizou it turns out the iphone clone tweeterman reviewed actually uses the same font all the vt03 games in the pack use.
Taizou they did use the same header format in several nes multicarts i have been trying to decrypt now.
I know it is not related but most of the files i seen on the site are documentation and notes for their isports pro. It is only one page that has their games on it.
Also for subor's website read this page: http://a8.istudy666.cn:82/sd.html (http://a8.istudy666.cn:82/sd.html). Before you download the files as it tells you to put the spg and application/setup files on the sd card. It is basically the same for a hacked wii. Also if you wanted to. You could also transfer roms and the emulator to the same sd card. But make sure the emulator is from their website.
First of all the spg293 is just a chinese version of a hacked wii.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: Icareevenless123456789 on March 22, 2017, 09:16:43 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3x45pm73vdlt3bq/lexibook.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3x45pm73vdlt3bq/lexibook.zip)

These are extracted .wxn games from a Lexibook 200 in 1 system (5 NES and 2 Onebus). I put the downloadable games from here on it and they work fine. Some of the games themselves are weird, upgraded variations of the originals and whatnot (Pokemon Red, for example, has actual Pokemon in it instead of fake ones). And the reason barely any of them work is because 99 percent of them are Onebus-based (sometimes by like, one extra shade). Anyways, enjoy your trash.
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: kelvin donna on June 18, 2017, 09:40:43 AM
iniche
Oct 7 2011, 05:22:45 PM
Kage, can you put up your version of the Desert Storm ROM? A friend of mine wants to take a look and compare versions.[/quote]dear kage, give me a Folder with pinball, attacking, Play Cards, puzzle, Baseball, Diamond, Highway racing, overspeed racing and galaxy killer as seperate dumps please, i am sick of searching these roms through the internet :angry:  :angry2:  :nono:  :facepalm:
Icareevenless123456789
Mar 22 2017, 09:16:43 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3x45pm73vdlt3bq/lexibook.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3x45pm73vdlt3bq/lexibook.zip)

These are extracted .wxn games from a Lexibook 200 in 1 system (5 NES and 2 Onebus). I put the downloadable games from here on it and they work fine. Some of the games themselves are weird, upgraded variations of the originals and whatnot (Pokemon Red, for example, has actual Pokemon in it instead of fake ones). And the reason barely any of them work is because 99 percent of them are Onebus-based (sometimes by like, one extra shade). Anyways, enjoy your trash.[/quote]i finally found the "puzzle" rom, thanks to you  :hug: but i am missing something  :( , i can't play the sur lc rom on the nes, can you may convert it to nes?
Title: Waixing's downloadable NES games
Post by: NewRisingSun on November 09, 2017, 05:09:00 PM
The RPGs use mapper 176 but expect SRAM to contain some magic values in the form of a code copied into RAM at 0x100.