- taizou
- Aug 12 2011, 09:06:36 PM
The Pokemon games might be the real GBA versions or they might just be some of those god awful NES platformer hacks.[/quote]From what I've noticed, it's usually the latter. <_<- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: FlanDo on August 13, 2011, 11:59:08 AM- lol Veemon it was unmarked which means $4. Oh, and I found this. http://www.gameboymulticarts.com/ (http://www.gameboymulticarts.com/)
Not sure if it's an official company, but here it is.- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: KingPepe on August 13, 2011, 12:12:46 PM- I highly doubt that is official in any way. I don't think Nintendo would allow some company to make multicarts using other people's games.
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Post by: Ninja-Kun on August 13, 2011, 12:20:21 PM- LOL the cartridges that website seels with supposedly no repeats at all include some curious "games", like a joypad test cartridge, a 100000-in-1 multicart (which I wouldn't be surprised if it's just the menu), homebrew games and even something called "WWF Tennis" :P
They even list Lunar Ball and Lunar Pool as different games! That's having no shame XD- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: FlanDo on August 13, 2011, 12:21:37 PM- someone should call the customer service number. oh, and read the "About Us" thing. It says that multicarts as a market are "largely undeveloped". lol founded in 2000? (http://www.gameboymulticarts.com/about_company.htm)
"Note: If you were not able to find a specific game that you would like to see on a multicart write to us and we might be able to find a cartridge not listed online that has the games you are looking for." wow i feel so special lol
Who'd want to spend so much on a pile of junk in a GBA cart? In this case, it might be more expensive to buy in bulk, depending on the seller.
Lol read the FAQ- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: Awesome Panda on August 13, 2011, 12:29:15 PM
- Ninja-Kun
- Aug 13 2011, 12:20:21 PM
LOL the cartridges that website seels with supposedly no repeats at all include some curious "games", like a joypad test cartridge, a 100000-in-1 multicart (which I wouldn't be surprised if it's just the menu), homebrew games and even something called "WWF Tennis" :P[/quote]I'm pretty sure that last one's just a homebrew hack of Tennis. There's a lot more homebrew hacks on them as well. :rolleyes:- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: taizou on August 13, 2011, 01:05:22 PM- yeah homemade NES hacks are pretty common on GBA multicarts. i even have a OneStation cart with "Hash Cookie" on it lol.
and sites like that "gameboy-multicarts.com" are the biggest ripoff merchants going. DS equivalents always seem to pop up in Google ads selling either mass produced DS multicarts for 10 times what they're actually worth, or pre-loaded flash carts with a custom selection of games for 10 times what those are actually worth too. I bought a GBC multicart from a site like that way back before I knew any better, paid like £35 for it and it turned up DOA with a return address to a hotel in Thailand. and the previously helpful site owner mysteriously stopped replying to my emails.- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: FlanDo on August 13, 2011, 02:01:39 PM- Here's a completely obvious answer. And yeah, if I was looking for gba games, I would want the ones on the box. Apparently not the average buyer though.
Q. Do the cartridges always contain the games on the front box ?
A. No, please click on the product description next to the game to see the full games listing. We do not produce the cartridges and have no control over the boxes. We do not want to mislead our customers so we have written out the full games listing for each game cartridge on the product details page.
Oh yeah. And I just have one question for you guys. Q. Will this work on Nintedo DS?- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: Veemon on August 14, 2011, 02:30:48 AM
- FlanDo
- Aug 13 2011, 11:59:08 AM
lol Veemon it was unmarked which means $4. Oh, and I found this. http://www.gameboymulticarts.com/ (http://www.gameboymulticarts.com/)
Not sure if it's an official company, but here it is.[/quote]Wow 4 bucks sounds like a great deal! U should totally buy it lol.- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: taizou on August 14, 2011, 07:06:45 AM
- FlanDo
- Aug 13 2011, 02:01:39 PM
Oh yeah. And I just have one question for you guys. Q. Will this work on Nintedo DS?[/quote]yes. Unless it's a GBC cart in a GBA shell, which they occasionally are.- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: Veemon on August 21, 2011, 02:28:01 AM- So then if it's a GBC cart in a GBA shell, then how do you play it?
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Post by: Awesome Panda on August 21, 2011, 05:37:59 AM
- Veemon
- Aug 21 2011, 02:28:01 AM
So then if it's a GBC cart in a GBA shell, then how do you play it?[/quote]Well if it's being played on a GBA, then it'd work normally because it's compatible with GBC games. I doubt it'd work on a DS though.- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: Veemon on August 22, 2011, 04:47:04 PM- Oh but the DS and DS Lite are compatible with GBC games as well though. Or would it still not work? Although I do have a GBA so it wouldn't matter I guess.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on August 22, 2011, 04:55:12 PM- Well GBC carts don't fit into a DS, so I assumed that Nintendo didn't really bother at all with backwards compatibility with it. I might be wrong though.
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Post by: taizou on August 22, 2011, 05:01:28 PM- Yeah the DS doesn't have the necessary hardware to read GBC carts, I think either they couldn't fit it in or it would have raised the cost too much.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on August 22, 2011, 05:15:02 PM
- taizou
- Aug 22 2011, 05:01:28 PM
Yeah the DS doesn't have the necessary hardware to read GBC carts, I think either they couldn't fit it in or it would have raised the cost too much.[/quote]Good thing for emulators and R4 cards then. ^_^
Getting back on topic, I'd say it's best to have a GBC or GBA for multicarts if anything as not all of the games are guaranteed to work on an original Game Boy.- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: Pepper-98 on August 22, 2011, 05:36:48 PM
- Cheetahmen
- Aug 22 2011, 05:15:02 PM
Getting back on topic, I'd say it's best to have a GBC or GBA for multicarts if anything as not all of the games are guaranteed to work on an original Game Boy.[/quote]Technically, you should have all the different Game Boy generation systems. Going by my multicarts and bootlegs, some of them don't work on certain systems (for example, my official copy of Pokemon Adventure and some multicarts I have only work on, say, the monochrome GB or they work on everything BUT the GBC. :huh: )- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: taizou on August 22, 2011, 06:01:35 PM- Yeah thats true. My copy of Rainbow Prince and this one Sachen multi i have only works on a mono GB. Most GBC carts do work on a GBA in my experience, but Beast Fighter by Sachen doesn't (unless you use a Game Genie), and probably other Sachen games are like that too.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on August 22, 2011, 06:03:38 PM- Well all of my pirate GB carts work on all 3. Then again, they're all multicarts for the GB or GBC.
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Post by: taizou on August 22, 2011, 06:19:06 PM- Multicarts are usually ok. It's only really the logo-changing trick that breaks support on newer gameboys, and multis never usually bother with that.
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Post by: Veemon on August 22, 2011, 11:13:18 PM- Oh never mind, I just remembered that no, GB or GBC game carts do not work on DS or DS Lite systems. Derp.
Anywayz, so why does the logo-changing break support for newer gameboys? Actually, is there any DS pirates out there?- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: taizou on August 22, 2011, 11:53:56 PM
- Veemon
Because of Nintendo basically. In each major GB revision (ie GBC and GBA) they changed the way it checks for the Nintendo logo, which breaks the methods unlicensed games use to change it and stops them from booting. I'm not sure if they did it on purpose to stop unlicensed games working though, or if it was just something they changed for other reasons and it coincidentally happened to break them.
- Veemon
Only copies of licensed games and multicarts as far as I know. I've never heard of a DS pirate original or pirate hack - even the multicart menus don't use original code (they're mostly just hacked flash cart menus).- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: Veemon on August 23, 2011, 12:22:18 AM- So basically the gameboy's security systems prevent the games from working right? Btw did you say the one that works the best with pirates is GBA? Also how compatible are the gameboy players on Game Cube, NES etc?
The reason I'm assuming there's no pirate originals is because it's probably hard to make pirates for it huh? Is it the older the system, the easier it is to make games for it?- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: taizou on August 23, 2011, 12:38:16 AM
- Veemon
- Aug 23 2011, 12:22:18 AM
So basically the gameboy's security systems prevent the games from working right? [/quote]Yeah pretty much.
- Veemon
It really depends what kind of stuff you want to play - Mono GB games by Sachen & Gowin only work on the mono GB, but those games are quite rare and most of them suck anyway (apart from Rainbow Prince which is amazing, and Fire Dragon which is a decent snake clone with excellent music if nothing else). Most GBC pirates work on both GBC and GBA, but there are a few out there that don't work with the GBA. And obviously if you want to play GBA pirates the GBA (or DS) is the only option.
The Gamecube's Gameboy player is pretty much just a GBA that plugs into the Gamecube so it's compatible with everything that works on the GBA. The Super Game Boy for the SNES probably isn't worth bothering with for pirates though, it's less compatible than basically anything else.
- Veemon
Well that's the weird thing - there are tons of DS homebrew development tools, and tons of factories in China that could manufacture the carts, so it should be relatively easy to make DS pirate originals. But no one has done it so far. I'm not sure why.
It is generally true though that it's easier to make unlicensed games for older systems - the newer the system, the more copy protection it'll have, and the more complicated the hardware will be (making it harder to develop for without the official devkit).- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: Veemon on August 23, 2011, 01:52:15 AM- So with that said, I'm guessing the NES' gameboy player is had the same compatibility as the game boy right?
Well maybe the reason no pirate will touch it is because it's to new? I suppose most companies only make games for retired systems. Some still did make games for it when the system was still relevant, but for the most part it's not.- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: taizou on August 23, 2011, 12:16:28 PM- there's a NES gameboy player? I know there's that homebrew one.. and theres the one Nintendo made for development/taking screenshots but that was never released to the public. I'm not sure how the former works but AFAIK the latter was just GB hardware that used a NES for display so it should have the same compatibility as the original gameboy.
- Veemon
I dunno about that - I would have thought they'd want to make games as early as possible while there's still a big market for DS stuff. The only reason so many Famicom pirates were made after official development stopped is because Famiclones were so popular, but the DS hasn't been cloned and I can't imagine it ever will be.- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: Veemon on August 23, 2011, 02:52:18 PM- Yes I'm pretty sure there's a NES Game Boy player. I'm pretty sure I have it, it's just like the other ones like the SNES and Game Cube one.
Yeah chances are that the DS won't be cloned, at lest for a long time. I guess it is surprising though that no company has jumped on the band wagon and made a crap load of pirates for it...- Title: 128-in-1 at goodwill
Post by: Doomkid on August 24, 2011, 10:22:07 AM- Technology has come so far that video game piracy as we know it from the 90's is a basically pointless venture. Rather than going through the enourmous hassle of remaking an SNES game on the NES (like Master Fighter, for example) they can just get hundreds of games from any console over 10 years old (sometimes newer, but not often) and just cram them onto whatever device they want for a tiny cost, really.
Ive seen tons of iPhone like clones that boast multiple games in one device. It's usually just an NES/Sega/whatever emulator built in, and theres usually less than a gig of drive space.. Yet still, Ive seen famicom pirates from 2004 and 2005, when this technology was already easily clonable and accessable.. I don't understand how they can expect to turn a profit from these famicom multicarts/bootlegs still today, really all they end up being is a waste of space, if it isn't a genuinely fun pirate. But I guess it still makes money in some corners of the world, cause they're STILL producing them.
I'd think it would cost less and sell more just to ditch the famicom crap altogether, and plop out more of these iPhone clones, but I suppose they just want to have all bases covered..