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So, I recieved that thing.
Well, it's a terrible GBC pirate of Sonic 1. When the game starts, you see the artwork of Sonic Gems Collection with "Sonic World the land adventure". After pushing "start", there is a GBC version of Sonic 1's title screen.
The game begins in Spring Yard Zone, not entirely the same as we know, the layout is different. Controls are awful. I couldn't even get past SYZ act 3.
But I watched the demos after the title screen. There are Green Hill, Labyrinth and Marble zones at least...and the Green Hill zone reminds me of this pirate: http://www.sonic-cult.org/dispart.php?catid=7&gameid=9&subid=1&artid=1 (http://www.sonic-cult.org/dispart.php?catid=7&gameid=9&subid=1&artid=1)
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Post by: ThunderBlastMan on July 21, 2011, 10:02:05 PM
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- Jul 21 2011, 09:56:41 PM
don't be a klax and start posting a bunch of multicart stuff.[/quote]Ok. just searching up GBA bootlegs and i found that. I will try finding one.- Title: Unknown/Obscure GBA pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 22, 2011, 05:40:13 AM
- Barver
- Jul 21 2011, 09:56:41 PM
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Well, it's a terrible GBC pirate of Sonic 1. When the game starts, you see the artwork of Sonic Gems Collection with "Sonic World the land adventure". After pushing "start", there is a GBC version of Sonic 1's title screen.
The game begins in Spring Yard Zone, not entirely the same as we know, the layout is different. Controls are awful. I couldn't even get past SYZ act 3.
But I watched the demos after the title screen. There are Green Hill, Labyrinth and Marble zones at least...and the Green Hill zone reminds me of this pirate: http://www.sonic-cult.org/dispart.php?catid=7&gameid=9&subid=1&artid=1 (http://www.sonic-cult.org/dispart.php?catid=7&gameid=9&subid=1&artid=1)[/quote][/quote]That's just weird. It sounds a lot like Yong Yong's work but Sonic Gems Collection came out in 2005, and I don't know of any Yong Yong games made after 2001. :huh: Some screenshots would help though.- Title: Unknown/Obscure GBA pirates
Post by: taizou on July 22, 2011, 08:25:21 AM- the "title screen" is probably just a GBA splash screen added before the emulation starts, a lot of non-GBA GBA pirates do that. so it could have been made long after the game itself. like "Megaman X8" which has a modified version of one of the Zero games' title screen before starting the real game, which is a very slightly hacked Megaman 4 running in PocketNES.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on July 22, 2011, 08:47:36 AM- So it's basically an awful remake of Sonic the Hedgehog? Wonder where I've seen that before. ;D
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Post by: Barver on July 22, 2011, 09:18:58 PM- Yeah, I don't think it's likely anything else besides one of the Somari hacks. How many other Sonic pirates out there start off in Spring Yard Zone? :P
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Post by: Awesome Panda on July 22, 2011, 09:21:07 PM- Yeah, I suspect that whoever wrote that doesn't know the difference between a Famicom game and a GBC game. Like I said earlier, some screenshots would help.
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Post by: Azathoth on July 26, 2011, 07:33:26 PM- Armed with the info you guys posted I trawled through a bunch of Chinese wholesalers and noticed a trend; apparently a bunch of them get their pirate GBA carts from the same factory as they've all got more or less the same inventory list along with the same game ID's that correspond to the titles.
I noticed that virtually every list has the same titles marked with some type of symbol, and several of these are obviously just PocketNES or are a GBC game reprinted with a GBA PCB and shell. However, some of them also use this same notation next to unlicensed games, so I dunno. Here's what I came across consistantly, besides a million GBA Pokemon fan-made hacks...
STAR WARS 3 ⊙
SUPER TETRIS DELUX ⊙
ALADDIN ⊙
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES II⊙
SUPER MARIO BROS 3⊙
CONTRA FORCE⊙
BATMAN RETURNS⊙
POKEMON CRYSTAL ⊙
POKEMON BLUE DIAMOND II⊙
KIRBY STAR RED DIAMOND ⊙
SUPER ALADDIN 2 ⊙
SPIDERMAN 4 ⊙
CRASH BANDICOOT 4 ⊙
FINDING NEMO 3 ⊙
LION KING 3 ⊙
POKEMON EMERALD 2 ⊙
POKEMON RUBY 3 ⊙
So there were two separate model numbers assigned for the two Aladdins, two separate model numbers for "Star Wars 3" and the real "Star Wars: Episode III". Contra Force used the same box art as the NES version, as did Batman Returns. Seems like one (or all, I don't follow the series) of those Pokemon games was a GBC game.
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Post by: Barver on July 26, 2011, 08:24:45 PM- Well if anyone wants to get those games and see what they are, all you have to do is ask volumerates since they apparently have the exact same source as the rest. I never noticed all those games on there before though, I even recall doing a find for "Crash" and never seeing Crash 4 :x
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Post by: codeman38 on July 26, 2011, 08:49:40 PM- I'm guessing Crash 4 is the same one that 64scener has (the weird Sintax/VFame thing), though one never can be too sure.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on July 26, 2011, 09:01:53 PM- I'd say it's the Jungle Book hack on my PVP Station, but I somehow doubt they're still making GBA pirates in 2011. :P
BTW, I think it'd help asking 64scener what the box art looks like just to see if it's the same as the one on Volumerates and such.- Title: Unknown/Obscure GBA pirates
Post by: Barver on July 26, 2011, 09:35:52 PM- I swear N64Scener used to have a page that talked about Crash 4 and even showed box art, now I can't find anything, and I even asked Martin on his youtube channel and he doesn't respond. Is it a false memory? :x
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Post by: Awesome Panda on July 26, 2011, 09:36:49 PM- Well I can't find it either. Probably deleted the page or something. :\
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Post by: taizou on July 26, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
- Azathoth
- Jul 26 2011, 07:33:26 PM
I noticed that virtually every list has the same titles marked with some type of symbol, and several of these are obviously just PocketNES or are a GBC game reprinted with a GBA PCB and shell. However, some of them also use this same notation next to unlicensed games, so I dunno. Here's what I came across consistantly, besides a million GBA Pokemon fan-made hacks...
STAR WARS 3 ⊙
SUPER TETRIS DELUX ⊙
ALADDIN ⊙
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES II⊙
SUPER MARIO BROS 3⊙
CONTRA FORCE⊙
BATMAN RETURNS⊙
POKEMON CRYSTAL ⊙
POKEMON BLUE DIAMOND II⊙
KIRBY STAR RED DIAMOND ⊙
SUPER ALADDIN 2 ⊙
SPIDERMAN 4 ⊙
CRASH BANDICOOT 4 ⊙
FINDING NEMO 3 ⊙
LION KING 3 ⊙
POKEMON EMERALD 2 ⊙
POKEMON RUBY 3 ⊙[/quote]I think a lot of those might be NES games. I know for sure Kirby Star Red Diamond is. Interesting that Star Wars 3 is there though, could it be that game I saw in Turkey all those years ago? O: You just *know* that if we request it from volumerates they'll only stock the actual Episode 3 game though.- Title: Unknown/Obscure GBA pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 27, 2011, 05:29:36 AM- It's probably just The Empire Strikes Back for the NES, knowing pirates. :P
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Post by: Smedis2 on August 02, 2011, 01:28:43 PM- Back to the "Sonic Worlid" (sic) pirate,I just can't believe that they (the pirates) spent ALL that time on the back of the box just to write it's legit.
That's such a desperate attempt to make people believe nonsense like that.- Title: Unknown/Obscure GBA pirates
Post by: taizou on August 04, 2011, 01:29:39 AM- just a heads up, Volumerates posted a bunch of new GBA games (http://www.volumerates.com/cate/video-games-gba~r.1312434294U10894) (what? no that isnt an affiliate link, shh :D), again they mostly just added other titles from the same series as the requested games lol. so we can probably assume they can't actually get most of these games. but Digimon Ruby is there at least, and Digimon Ruby is awesome.
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Post by: taizou on August 05, 2011, 11:57:44 AM- !
(http://i.imgur.com/UPo3r.png)
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if anyone was wondering im having a problem with this that I kinda want to solve before I release it. the actual game data is only 4mb but it dumps as 32mb, with 4mb blocks like this:
1. Game
2. some repeating pattern of bytes
3. Game (duplicate of 1)
4. Pattern
5. Pattern
6. 00's
7. Pattern
8. 00's
i've experimented a bit and it seems like the contents of blocks 2-4 and 6-8 don't matter. 6-8 can be trimmed from the rom entirely and 2-4 can be replaced by 00's or whatever, but the pattern at position 5 (ie at 1000000-13FFFFF) has to be there or the game won't boot. I assume the cart doesn't actually contain a 32mb rom and it just returns certain bytes when ROM addresses between 100000-13FFFFF are accessed, as a form of (mostly failed) copy protection, but it does mean the rom is massively bigger than it should be.- Title: Unknown/Obscure GBA pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on August 05, 2011, 03:07:54 PM- Well if parts 2-4 are useless, can't you just remove them as well to leave 8MB in total?
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Post by: taizou on August 05, 2011, 03:13:02 PM- nah, the game needs part 5 to be in the right place. there has to be 12mb of something between parts 1 and 5, even if it's just 00's.
Unless I could modify the pointers somehow, i'll have a look..- Title: Unknown/Obscure GBA pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on August 05, 2011, 03:22:25 PM- Well if GBA games are designed like NES games, then by my experience the main problem is trying to find the pointers. :\
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Post by: taizou on August 05, 2011, 03:26:39 PM- yeah especially with this - i don't know where exactly it's going to be pointing to, just that it'll be somewhere in a 4mb block. so i don't have much to go on here.
balls to it. here! http://fuji.drillspirits.net/?post=98 (http://fuji.drillspirits.net/?post=98)- Title: Unknown/Obscure GBA pirates
Post by: Azathoth on August 18, 2011, 06:25:10 AM- I can get all of the pirates I mentioned in post 15 above, but I cannot buy less than 10 of each title.
If anyone truly interested in going in on a group purchase for some or all of them you are more than welcome to drop me a PM.