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Pirate Discussion => Famicom/NES => Topic started by: Arcade-Elite on January 06, 2021, 10:34:19 PM
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Has anyone figured out a mapper for Pac-man championship to have the full audio? Or can hack a custom mapper? I was able to get it on a board but does not have the full audio. I know you need a famicom or modded nes for the audio. That i do have but I just think its a nice addition to the pac-man hacks.
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Can mapper 5 help with the extra audio?
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Assuming you are talking about "Pac-Man: Championship Edition" from the Namco Museum Archives/Namcot Collection, the correct mapper is 19.
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Yes i am talking about the pac-man archives is it as easy as just putting it on a mapper 19? Because i can only get the full music to play on a famicom N8 on the famicom slot of the AVS NES. So is there a way to make a custom mapper or a custom board for the full music to play on real hardware?
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Why do you want a custom mapper? The game is written for the Namco 163 ASIC, which has expansion audio. You can only get expansion audio on a 60-pin console, not on a 72 pin console. That is true for any kind of expansion audio. Making a custom mapper won't change that, because the problem is the 72 pin cartridge connector having no direct audio pins into the console, not the mapper.
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Ok i understand now thank you for explaining i was thinking it was the other way around. So my best bet is getting the famicom board that is mapper 19 Namco 163 ASIC. Thanks i am still learning getting these games made :)
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Oh, so you are looking for a donor board. Why did you not say so more clearly before. ;)
Because Pac-Man Championship uses battery-backed PRG-RAM for saving high scores, your best choice of games for donor boards are:- King of Kings
- Digital Devil Story II: Megami Tensei
- Sangokushi: Chuugen no Hasha
- Sangokushi II: Haou no Tairiku
- (Juvei Quest)
"Juvei Quest" may be a bad choice for a donor board, because that game never used expansion audio, so the Namco 163 ASIC's audio out may not be connected.
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Awsome man thanks i will hunt these titles down and find out the cheapest and hopefully get pac-man made with full audio.
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So i got Sangokushi: Chuugen no Hasha today but the board was a SOROM and there is no 163 chip on the pcb board. Will this still work or do i have to get one of those games that have the 163 chip on the board?
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You have the wrong Sangokushi game. There are four licensed Sangokushi games on the Famicom:
Sangokushi (no subtitle) from Koei ->SOROM:
(https://nescartdb.com/images/600/96ae7c00a34296e0499bc30ce63df1bf.jpg)
Sangokushi II (no subtitle) from Koei ->EWROM
(https://nescartdb.com/images/600/7065d086f56925665972eb6d15a27d65.jpg)
Sangokushi: Chuugen no Hasha from Namco ->N163:
(https://nescartdb.com/images/600/9f6960393916dab004d0aa84f6ffab61.jpg)
Sangokushi II: Haou no Tairiku from Namco ->N163:
(https://nescartdb.com/images/600/80a9b419e735be9ddd90e18a311ce029.jpg)
Neither SOROM nor EWROM cannot be used for N163 expansion audio. Only the last two cartridges are suitable, and of course only in their original non-bootleg versions. Also, be aware that Namco usually uses chip-on-board (i.e. black glob) ROMs.
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Ok thanks do you have a link or pic's of Sangokushi II: Haou no Tairiku pcb board or mapper? So i know what the legit board is supposed to look like. I dont know all the good sites.
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Also you think Youkai Douchuuki donor could work? if i add battery save? http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/profile.php?id=1820
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Ok thanks do you have a link or pic's of Sangokushi II: Haou no Tairiku pcb board or mapper? So i know what the legit board is supposed to look like. I dont know all the good sites.
Here (https://nescartdb.com/profile/view/4026). All pics come from NesCartDB (https://nescartdb.com), which you seem to have found yourself already? Youkai Douchuuki needs to be added WRAM at $6000-$7FFF in addition to the battery, which I assume to be a difficult modification.
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Ok so i am on the right track then thank you man this is hard to get done for a newbie 😁