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Pirate Discussion => Super Famicom/SNES => Topic started by: Barver on June 08, 2011, 12:07:12 AM

Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 08, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
I finally got into contact with the head of TEG today, Mr. Byte. I asked some basics that have been on my mind. First of all, I knew I'd seen that Sonic sprite for Sonic the Hedgehog 2 somewhere before...

(http://www.tegperu.org/sceneperu/gfx/snssoni2.jpg) (http://oi56.tinypic.com/2gvihp0.jpg)

He confirmed it's a hack of Sparkster. He promised to send me the ROM, including all the other games on the site that no rom links are up for. But he's very busy so it's gonna have to wait till Friday(or I'm guessing Thursday my time, not sure). So I'll have them emailed to me then and I'll post them up here so we can finally check them out  :clap:

I asked a bit more about TEG, not too much but I got some interesting info. Most interestingly is that all of TEG's hacks were distributed on cartridge with their consent! In his own words...

Quote:
 
all the hacked games were burned on eproms and sold in cartridges here in peru to resellers . as i know , in other countries, like paraguay, some people dumped the rom back to pc and so they released it .
basically , some people X from some country Y paid us an ammount Z to do that kind of work. then we sent them the "master" and they produced the cartridges and distributed to many countries , including back to Peru
 another way was that we directly did the job and sold ourself directly to resellers . that was for Futbol Peruano series in Playstation, for example .
[/quote]

He also said that Sonic 2 actually was distributed on cartridge. I'm assuming the same goes for the majority of their hacks. And all this time I thought it was piraters doing it without their knowledge. That explains why there's cartridges of hacks like 101 Dalmations and Bananas en Pijamas which aren't available on their site to download.

Anyway, look forward to Friday(or Thursday =p), I'll be sharing all the ROMs then!
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 10, 2011, 09:44:25 PM
Well, this sucks. I got the ROM set, but out of everything Sonic 2 is missing :( Apparently it was lost long ago and he doesn't think he can find a copy of it.

For what it's worth, here's the set of what was provided:
http://200.48.13.74:8080/mobile/rom/ROMS_CONSOLAS.ZIP (http://200.48.13.74:8080/mobile/rom/ROMS_CONSOLAS.ZIP)

Hoping he can lead me to someone else who might have it. There's also some other things on the site not included, like Man in the iron Mask or those Saint Seiya games. 101 Dalmations doesn't work in ZSNES either, not sure if more games are like that.

Edit: He found an old ILBM file(Amiga format apparently) of the VRAM from Sonic 2. Which means I might be able to recreate the hack. Possibly... :)
I put all the sprites into a Sparkster rom now. First time ever doing SNES palette editing, much more painful than Genesis :x

http://www.2shared.com/file/MQt_0D8C/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_2_hack_.html (http://www.2shared.com/file/MQt_0D8C/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_2_hack_.html)




Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: MLX on June 11, 2011, 03:57:57 AM
Ask him if he had a contact with a Taiwanese company to release Sonic 4 please. And if he had any old emails from them or files that he could provide.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 11, 2011, 04:23:10 AM
I can ask, but it's doubtful since I've yet to ever see a single SNES pirate original or hack come from Taiwan, unless generic pirates/multis count. Going by what he said it's most likely he sold them to distributors in Peru and they found their way across the world from there.

Also, here's some shots for anyone curious but can't be arsed to download the rom =p

(http://oi51.tinypic.com/533f5s.jpg)  (http://oi52.tinypic.com/zxm8eh.jpg) (http://oi53.tinypic.com/suvo0z.jpg)

Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 11, 2011, 06:13:49 AM
Why wouldn't they be? =p

You might want to read what I wrote just a couple posts up. I even provided a ROM link. I even said the shots are for people who can't be arsed to DL the rom  :lol:  Wish I could find an original cartridge though, since it might have a titlescreen or more. Plus I noticed some animations aren't done perfectly, like when you're hanging Sonic's shoes don't display properly. Perhaps there was a further version that got onto cart.

Besides Sonic, anyone tried Sextris?  :whistle:  I actually can't figure out what the heck is going on, I barely get three rows down before the level says I finished and then it quickly flashes a nudie pic. wtf :P
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: codeman38 on June 11, 2011, 12:06:38 PM
Barver
Jun 11 2011, 04:23:10 AM
I can ask, but it's doubtful since I've yet to ever see a single SNES pirate original or hack come from Taiwan, unless generic pirates/multis count. Going by what he said it's most likely he sold them to distributors in Peru and they found their way across the world from there.[/quote]I'm still curious about the apparently Taiwanese-developed games from "DVS Electronics" that have only surfaced in American-style SNES carts-- e.g., the two Pokemon platformers, KOF 2000, etc. How has nobody found a Super Famicom cart for any of these yet?
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Awesome Panda on June 11, 2011, 12:34:57 PM
codeman38
Jun 11 2011, 12:06:38 PM
I'm still curious about the apparently Taiwanese-developed games from "DVS Electronics" that have only surfaced in American-style SNES carts-- e.g., the two Pokemon platformers, KOF 2000, etc. How has nobody found a Super Famicom cart for any of these yet?[/quote]I'm likely wrong on this, but I'm guessing that those games were only released in places where the American SNES was common. There might be Super Famicom carts of them, but I doubt it.

Mind you, from what I've noticed SNES pirates in general are more common in the Americas than anywhere else. The only SFC/PAL SNES pirates I've seen are a few multicarts, Hong Kong '97 (if that counts) and a PAL release of Earthbound.

Edit: Apparently, I haven't been paying attention because one of the Sonic the Hedeghog (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100822023555/bootleggames/images/0/06/Sonic_4.JPG) carts is designed for either a Super Famicom or PAL SNES. I'm guessing the latter, seeing as the box says it's for the SNES.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: MLX on June 11, 2011, 03:31:54 PM
I feel stupid for not reading your whole message :d

Well that's very cool you recreated the ROM.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 11, 2011, 07:40:10 PM
I think all SNES pirates are usually American carts because that's what South America used. The games were likely developed in Taiwan, but they sold distributed them to South America since they saw it as a more viable market that would buy them or something. That's always been my guess.

I'll definitely ask him when he's online again though, he's yet to even see I put Sonic 2 back together :D
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on June 11, 2011, 09:43:11 PM
I look foward to finding the cartridge. good job Barver contacting TEG. please let us know if you find a cartridge scan or picture and i think this is the sequel to the sonic speedy gonzales hack. and if anyone wants to see a video about this hack it s over here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfLK_pWeR34
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 11, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
Yes, it can be assumed it's the sequel to the Speedy hack =p They also called it Sonic the Hedgehog 2, which shows they didn't consider the Speedy hack as Sonic 4 like the people I guess they "sold" the game to decided to name it.

I've been wanting to make a video myself but damned if I can figure out how to get ZSNES to just do it.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on June 11, 2011, 10:33:09 PM
Barver
Jun 11 2011, 10:05:33 PM
I've been wanting to make a video myself but damned if I can figure out how to get ZSNES to just do it.[/quote]I use Hypercam 2 and the same emulator as you. does it lag. Because in my video the sound is a little off in a later point of the video but anyway it is a good resource for me.
Also do you think there might be a title screen or did he just give you sprites. The only way to find the original version is by cartridge which might be hard to find due to how they were only provided in peru.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 12, 2011, 08:00:27 PM
I guess you didn't read all my posts since I said i wonder myself if there is a titlescreen =p I have no idea, Mr.Byte himself doesn't remember either since it's been so long.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on June 13, 2011, 05:12:21 PM
But do you think it is possible another member may have it. i emailed them in march but i emailed on my forgotten email address so i hope i hear from mr byte or someone else who may have a clue. Also do you have a sprite sheet of the sonic sprites? can you give them to me.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 13, 2011, 10:11:31 PM
I have the sprite sheet and was going to share it, but am waiting for Mr.Byte to come on again to ask to make sure it's OK. :) Haven't seen him sign onto MSN again ever since he gave me those sprites.

He told me he already contacted other old members of the team and they lost the ROM the to the game.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Azathoth on June 14, 2011, 12:50:54 AM
The original link for the ROM set has went dead, could someone please mirror the zip on another site?
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 14, 2011, 02:16:15 AM
Here you go.

http://www.fileserve.com/file/BCRdaQ9 (http://www.fileserve.com/file/BCRdaQ9)

Even though it's just a hack of Beethoven, it'd be nice if someone could figure out how to get 101 Dalmations working.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on June 16, 2011, 02:32:15 PM
So i guess the only way to find out about these games is to get them on cartridge and i do not think there was ever a copy sold on ebay. someone has to have a copy may not be TEG but it was sold to someone at least in Peru. there is probably little amount of copies of Sonic 2, or 101 dalmations


Also can i make a page on the bootleg games wiki
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 17, 2011, 01:08:19 AM
I'd prefer you didn't. Not only do you ALWAYS manage to make worthless posts that state the obvious(and usually things I already said myself at that  :yay: ), but every attempt by you so far to make wiki pages results in horrible grammar and spelling :x

And that's me being nice about it.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Awesome Panda on June 17, 2011, 03:35:44 AM
Barver
Jun 17 2011, 01:08:19 AM
I'd prefer you didn't. Not only do you ALWAYS manage to make worthless posts that state the obvious(and usually things I already said myself at that  :yay: ), but every attempt by you so far to make wiki pages results in horrible grammar and spelling :x

And that's me being nice about it.[/quote]Seconded. :P
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: KingPepe on June 17, 2011, 02:01:11 PM
Pirate hacks do not deserve their own page unless they're a big enough hack to deserve it (EX: AV Bishoujo Girl Fighting).

...although should we have a page for Twin Eagles Group?

EDIT: Actually, about the hack thing, maybe I should make a topic about it. I'll be honest, I'm not too sure about what to do for the hacks myself.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 17, 2011, 08:41:38 PM
I dunno, the Speedy hack has its own page, and it's made by the same people plus is mostly just a sprite hack as well. Twin Eagles Group does deserve its own page though. Maybe I'll write it up now.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on June 17, 2011, 08:49:02 PM
well they have a whole website dedicated to them, and we only have 1 of there games on the wiki so i think i would no be a good idea to start a page.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 17, 2011, 09:31:09 PM
Made a page for them now. I'd list more of their hacks if I could figure out what they are =p Still waiting for Mr. Byte to come online again since I still had questions about some of those.

Anyone know what Sextris is a hack of? :P
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on June 17, 2011, 09:39:58 PM
Barver
Jun 17 2011, 09:31:09 PM
Anyone know what Sextris is a hack of? :P[/quote] Looks kinda corny. here's there descrption of it "AAHH... AHHH...LET'S MOVE PAD UP'N DOWN" :shock:
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Azathoth on June 21, 2011, 04:53:17 PM
Random points...

Holy shit, _these_ are the guys behind the SFII:CE hack? I'd have never suspected that in a million years. I've been trying to find out something, anything about that hack for forever and came up with nothing. Fucking hats off to them.

Holy shit x2, a port of Cyberlip to the Mega Drive!?! Was this ever completed beyond what is included in that zip file?

Street Fighter II vs X-Men, a hack based on the SFII':Turbo engine? I'd gladly pay just to play the unfinished version!
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 21, 2011, 08:35:02 PM
I still got lots to ask, but sadly he's yet to sign on ever again since he gave me those Sonic sprites :/ And email is worthless since he never responds to it. He should be on eventually though.

I had no idea that Cyberlip was a port, thought they were editing a released game and glitched it beyond recognition.

Anything else you're wondering let me know so i can ask when he's on next time :) I'm hoping to find out more about the ROMs that weren't included in the zip. Probably lost like Sonic 2 was if they're not in there though :/
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Azathoth on June 21, 2011, 10:36:52 PM
Cyberlip is a Neo-Geo game that never got ported to any other console. It's strange, since it looks like a very, very early build yet the ROM itself is huge.

I'd love to get a copy of whatever version exists of their Street Fighter II VS X-Men hack. Any idea what original game Man in the Iron Mask was based on?
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on June 21, 2011, 11:25:35 PM
I'll have to ask if I ever get the chance again. I guessed Men in Black might be Shadow Runner and it turned out to be Blues Brothers, so Im not perfect at guessing hehe.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Awesome Panda on June 22, 2011, 07:51:16 AM
Surprised nobody's mentioned the Time Pilot port yet. (Either that or I need to go to Specsavers) Looks just like the arcade game (from what I remember), except the screen is turned at a 90 degree angle for some odd reason and there's no enemies, so it's obviously a beta or something.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: PlayerSecelt on June 22, 2011, 04:46:05 PM
Yeah, and its header says "SPACE INVADERS" and it has some sounds similar to the Space Invaders, might be a hack of the SNES Space Invaders.
(I'm sorry for saying "Space Invaders" too much.)
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Awesome Panda on June 22, 2011, 04:50:22 PM
PlayerSecelt
Jun 22 2011, 04:46:05 PM
Yeah, and its header says "SPACE INVADERS" and it has some sounds similar to the Space Invaders, might be a hack of the SNES Space Invaders.
(I'm sorry for saying "Space Invaders" too much.)[/quote]If so, then it's a pretty elaborate hack if you ask me. :)
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on July 25, 2011, 12:25:59 AM
Since it doesn't appear Mr. Byte is going to ever come online again I may as well share the amiga art file for Sonic's sprites, shouldn't matter much.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ITMBK3A6 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ITMBK3A6)

And a converted BMP:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=290vmg8&s=7 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=290vmg8&s=7)

Lots of the art is chopped up. Can't imagine what else to do with these sprites unless you want to put them into other Sparkster games.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on July 29, 2012, 08:04:11 PM
Anyone have the rom pack still? Someone pointed out Cyper Lip on the LostLevels forums(and shame on you taizou for not remembering where it came from :P) and was wanting to obtain the whole set.

Reminds me I should see about getting into contact with mr. byte sometime again.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Azathoth on July 30, 2012, 03:20:38 AM
I have the original archive on my other computer, I'll upload it tonight if need be.

I'm 100% positive the Cyberlip port had never been spoken of or posted prior to you getting that info (at least on English language sites anyway). Unless I overlooked it their website doesn't even mention it.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Barver on July 30, 2012, 05:41:02 PM
Oh I wasn't trying to say that port was mentioned elsewhere before receiving this pack from mr byte, if it looked that way.

Look forward to the zip :)
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Azathoth on August 01, 2012, 04:17:44 AM
Oh no, I didn't take it that way. I guess what I was alluding to was that if you hadn't had that conversation the Cyberlip port would have been lost forever :/

 Here's the link on my box account (https://www.box.com/s/16e5a00a4509248bf029)
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Feel on August 02, 2012, 02:14:28 PM
Barver
Jul 29 2012, 08:04:11 PM
Anyone have the rom pack still? Someone pointed out Cyper Lip on the LostLevels forums(and shame on you taizou for not remembering where it came from :P) and was wanting to obtain the whole set.

Reminds me I should see about getting into contact with mr. byte sometime again.[/quote]That was me ^^.

Seeing that early build really peaked my attention. If the completed game exists, we HAVE to find a way to get it. As that ould be a truly great game to make a repro.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: pichichi010 on August 02, 2012, 04:20:14 PM
Feel
Aug 2 2012, 02:14:28 PM
Barver
Jul 29 2012, 08:04:11 PM
Anyone have the rom pack still? Someone pointed out Cyper Lip on the LostLevels forums(and shame on you taizou for not remembering where it came from :P) and was wanting to obtain the whole set.

Reminds me I should see about getting into contact with mr. byte sometime again.[/quote]That was me ^^.

Seeing that early build really peaked my attention. If the completed game exists, we HAVE to find a way to get it. As that ould be a truly great game to make a repro.[/quote]Want!
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Moneyspider_Todd on December 22, 2014, 03:20:54 PM
Oh, nice to find a working link of the rom zip folder. Thanks a lot.

Sight, i wish that X-MEN VS Street Fighter 2 could be released someday. Looks pretty interesting.

Greetings!
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Moneyspider_Todd on April 14, 2015, 12:20:43 AM
Just in case some one wants to know; few months ago i talked with the "main man" of TEG via facebook, who sadly said he lost everything of the work of the xmen vs street fighter II of SNES due his hard drive die. So, everything left is that magneto vs dhalsim portrait screen... and that's all.

That's how also a lot of other works for SNES and other system where lost, too. As the Saint Seiya games for SNES.
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Azathoth on April 26, 2015, 11:45:06 PM
Moneyspider_Todd
Apr 14 2015, 12:20:43 AM
Just in case some one wants to know; few months ago i talked with the "main man" of TEG via facebook, who sadly said he lost everything of the work of the xmen vs street fighter II of SNES due his hard drive die. So, everything left is that magneto vs dhalsim portrait screen... and that's all.[/quote]Well.... shit.

I really hate to hear this, this was one of those games I always hoped would surface somewhere. After their effort put into the SNES SFII:CE hack (which was amazing for it's time) I thought this would be awesome. Pity nothing exists of it. Thanks for solving the mystery!
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: Moneyspider_Todd on April 27, 2015, 01:37:52 AM
No problem buddy ;)

In a side note, yesterday finally i had the chance of get a physical cpoy of TEG's SFII Champion Edition Hack, thus completing my SF SNES collection of 4 official games, 1 gameboy port playable via Super game Boy and 3 bootlegs (X-Men vs Street Fighter, Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha and SFIICE). The cart of the last one is surprisingly light, even lighter than a piece of cardboard. The game itself runs perfectly aside of the last fight where Bison sometimes suddenly dissapear from to top of the screen, and the well-known glitched endings of the 4 devas. Aside of that, is an awesome hack.

Greetings!
Title: Twin Eagles Group rom hacks
Post by: craftersshaft on December 26, 2016, 06:26:39 PM
Do you have any mirrors of the zip on dropbox or mega, or some other site like those that isn't mediafire? I don't feel safe going for a direct IP.