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Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on August 15, 2010, 10:13:23 PM
Throughout the past few months I've been finding some new SNES pirates that nobody really knows about. It probably goes without saying that besides the occasional hacks(i.e Sonic 4) that the whole library of SNES pirates is nothing but ports from Genesis, or apparently on the rare occasion possibly other systems? In this topic I'll just bring a little run through of what I know about, some introduced on RX a bit ago and others you probably haven't heard of much, or ever?  :O

Hercules
(http://a.imageshack.us/img830/2757/herc.jpg)

I got this one a few months ago, hoping that I may have found something really unique. It turned out to just be a port of the Genesis Hercules pirate. It uses completely different music however, some of it not half bad. As some probably are aware, this game is a loose port of the Playstation Hercules game, so maybe the music comes from that, I still need to play it someday to find out. Animation in general is also very jerky, plus the palette is kind of screwed up for a couple of things. Besides that, it's the same thing as on Genesis, with the exact same ending.

Taz in Escape from Mars
(http://a.imageshack.us/img30/436/tghmh.jpg)

I've sadly no idea what this is, and the seller failed to take any shots of it. He told me he'll give me screenshots soon, so I'll definitely post about it here if he follows through on that. It would be pretty interesting if pirates actually ported the Genesis game to SNES, since instances of an official game ported to SNES aren't common.

Mortal Kombat 2000

(http://a.imageshack.us/img440/4043/mk2000.jpg)(http://a.imageshack.us/img696/1148/mk2wn.jpg)(http://a.imageshack.us/img838/9213/mk22.jpg)

Just more proof SNES pirates can't get terribly interesting, this appears to just be a port of the Mortal Kombat 5 Sub Zero pirate on Genesis.

Digimon
(http://a.imageshack.us/img339/1006/lbaip.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rLVH8.jpg)

I'm sure people on the RX forums saw this(same seller as the Taz above). Some people think it's a port of a GBA Digimon game that was somewhat recently shown on the Sky League website. I recently found out that Vast Fame made a Digimon Sidescroller on GBA with a different name from that one though, perhaps they made both of them? So it's up in the air which it's a port of, but as anyone can tell it definitely came from the GBA. Here's shots of one of the GBA games to compare: (http://www.efgcw.com/bbs/attachments/month_0709/20070927_78235bbeacf2dc4cae15hzh1eEWS2qGy.jpg)

Aladdin 2

(http://a.imageshack.us/img689/7710/aladdin2m.jpg)

I know, horrible pic quality, but trust me, that Aladdin cart in the middle has a 2 on it, and the guy that was selling it listed it as Aladdin 2 also. Could it be, a port of the Aladdin 2 pirate on Genesis? But that game was a port of the SNES Aladdin. Which means they'd be porting a port of a game that's already on the SNES. We'll probably never know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if pirates were so stupid as to not realize how redundant porting this of all things back onto SNES would have been  :lol:

101 Dalmations

(http://a.imageshack.us/img203/703/dalcrap.jpg)

Unknown. But what is known is that this is merely a hack of some other game. It was made by Twin Eagles Group, the same people responsible for Sonic 4 and lots of other sprite hacks.


I take it most are already familiar with the rest, like Bug's Life, Titanic(S.O.S hack), Street Fighter EX Alpha etc. Maybe I'll post those pics of people aren't already familiar with them thanks to the RX topic made awhile ago. Hope some of this was interesting.

Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on August 15, 2010, 10:55:37 PM
ooh. seems like new SNES pirates are popping up all the time now. wasnt that long ago when people thought there was only Tekken 2 and Pocket Monster and nothing else :D

its looking like nearly every Mega Drive pirate was ported to the SNES at some point, but there are a few genuine SNES originals too.. like that Pokemon GS that WhiteLionness has (unless theres an undiscovered MD version) and Street Fighter Alpha, so there may well be more out there. but if Aladdin 2 really is the MD port of the SNES game ported back to the SNES that'd be like.. the best stupid pirate thing ever.

edit:
Quote:
 
I recently found out that Vast Fame made a Digimon Sidescroller on GBA with a different name from that one though, perhaps they made both of them?[/quote]
have you seen any screenshots of that one? the title screen of the one on Sky League looks a bit hacky to me, especially with the Pokemon stuff. maybe the Sky League one's just a hack of the other?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on August 15, 2010, 11:31:01 PM
I don't know about what Sky League has, but I found out that they actually sell games on Taobao, and supposedly it's brand new boxed, so I went for it :P See for yourself.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1457752511 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1457752511)

The name isn't the same, that's all I can go off of. You do have a point though, the title screen calls it Pokemon and has a Charmander on the title, yet the actual game is Digimon. Maybe what they got really is just a hack of the V.Fame game. When(if, I ordered three days ago and still my order isn't being done) I get it in the mail I'll be sure to post what it actually is.

And it probably goes without saying, but I bet Digimon, and Taz if it really is a port from Genesis, are both based off the same engine Picachu and Pokemon Gold Silver are. WIth the Bonkers music too no doubt.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on August 15, 2010, 11:47:25 PM
That looks like a GBC strategy game to me.. probably this one:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040110195022/http://www.st168.net/eng/mainroot/prodshow.asp?ProdId=st032 (http://web.archive.org/web/20040110195022/http://www.st168.net/eng/mainroot/prodshow.asp?ProdId=st032)
which sounds exactly like the intro of that Pokemon Sapphire I have, only with Digimon instead of Pokemon, and retranslated from Chinese into better English, so I guess its based on that engine (if not just a straight character swap)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on August 15, 2010, 11:56:02 PM
Edit: Oops, my mistake, I linked to the wrong game. I meant to post this one:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=4334812549 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=4334812549)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on August 16, 2010, 12:09:09 AM
ah yeah, I've seen that cart before. Hopefully its something awesome. O:
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: SpaceNinja on August 22, 2010, 02:43:46 AM
You might add Tekken 2 to the obscures :)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on August 25, 2010, 11:58:27 AM
btw, where did you find these? SNES originals seem to be the rarest of any console, at least based on my casual browsing of auction sites... but maybe i'm just not looking in the right places.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on August 25, 2010, 08:45:21 PM
In case there's misunderstanding I don't own all of them, just the Hercules. All the pics came from that guy at Digital Press, which I think you posted the topic about on the RX Forum?

I got the Hercules from someone on another forum that lives in Brazil. Pretty much Brazil seems to be THE place for SNES pirates. In fact, I don't think you find them anywhere else. It leads me to believe that all SNES pirates likely were developed in Brazil and not Taiwan, since I've yet to ever come across a single SNES pirate on a Taiwan auction site or for sale from someone over there. Not to mention they always come in SNES shells, not SFC.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on August 25, 2010, 09:46:13 PM
ah, I only recognised Digimon from that guy's threads. I dunno if he posted some later on that I missed. but yeah, the few I've seen seem to come from Brazil (or occasionally Mexico).

I think they were still probably developed in Taiwan though, but only sold in Brazil etc for some reason.. maybe that was just the only big market for pirate SNES games? I guess unlike the NES and Megadrive there were never that many cheap SNES clones, so the market for pirate carts wouldn't have been that big in most of the "traditional" pirate areas like Taiwan/China/Russia etc. but maybe Latin American countries had a cheapish supply of official SNESs from the US or something?

edit: though what is strange is that I definitely have seen pirate SFC carts of Japanese games, and a few multis, on Taiwanese auction sites... there must have been at least some market for SNES stuff there. so surely if the originals were developed in Taiwan they'd want to sell them locally too. hmm.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: KingPepe on August 25, 2010, 10:21:41 PM
Isn't it usually harder to make SNES unlicensed games due to the copy protection they put on it?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on September 01, 2010, 05:18:49 AM
Dunno if it matters but I recently found out the Digimon pirate only has five levels. I think I may have scored a copy of it, not 100% yet. More to come =p
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on September 02, 2010, 05:29:15 PM
Just got confirmation today, Taz in Escape from Mars 2 in nothing but the regular Taz-mania. Another case of misleading art :(
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: sevin0seven on February 28, 2011, 12:12:49 AM
^ =(
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on February 28, 2011, 04:29:08 AM
Well, since you bumped this I may as well also point out 101 Dalmations is just a hack of Beethoven.  There's also apparently a port of the Samurai Shodown 2 on Genesis to SNES, though I've yet to see that one myself.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: PlayerSecelt on April 24, 2011, 11:32:11 AM
The only SNES pirate games I know are: Tekken 2 (Tekken 3 Special on the Mega Drive), Pocket Monster (the same as the Mega Drive one except for a different HUD and music stolen from Bonkers) and a Rock 'N' Roll Racing beta pirated cart in Brazil I've heard of (but I don't have a picture of it). Hope that the last one may seem interesting for you guys.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on April 24, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
Tekken and Pocket Monsters already have entries on the wiki =p Haven't heard of the Rock 'N' Roll Racing beta though. I know there's a Rock 'N' Roll Racing hack on Genesis that replaces all the character pictures with characters from some anime or something though.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: PlayerSecelt on April 26, 2011, 07:00:35 AM
Oh yes, Super Noah's Ark 3D! I once heard that ID Software gave the Wolfenstein 3D (SNES) source code to Wisdom Tree (an unlicensed bible game company) and they made a parody which was Super Noah's Ark 3D.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Azathoth on April 29, 2011, 01:14:53 AM
I came across a picture of the box of a SNES hack called Titanic, it's apparently a hack of S.O.S. with references to the Titanic movie.

Has it been dumped, or is any other information about it available?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: PlayerSecelt on April 29, 2011, 10:04:29 AM
No, never heard of that.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: codeman38 on April 29, 2011, 01:25:27 PM
I'd read about the same game on DigitPress, and it is indeed a hack of SOS; however, it hasn't been dumped. But it's nothing more than a title hack anyway, from what I can gather.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on April 29, 2011, 11:18:10 PM
I've seen that game too, and like has been said, it appears to be nothing but a title hack. Possibly another one of Twin Eagle Groups hacks that only were pirated on cart and never released by them on their website. Still wonder what the deal is with that, I tried contacting Mr Byte but he never responds back.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: klax on June 29, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Multicarts weren't that big on the snes, but a few were made. Here is a multicart that contains 5 games.

Games:

Power Rangers: The Movie
Super Mario 4 (Super Mario World)
Aladdin
Galaxy Wars
Top Racer (Perhaps Top Racer 2, from the image)
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/1/0819/cart.jpg)
Oh! I found another one!
Games:
Super Mario World
Contra III (98?)
Sonic and Knuckles
Mr.Do (possibly Dr. Mario)
Aladdin
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/2/0820/Pirate3.jpg)
This is an unnamed multicart that appears to have 8 games, if the label is correct. The games are:

?
Hat Trick Hero
?
SD Gundam (?)
Super Mario World
Gradius III
Super Smash TV
Super Tennis
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/2/0823/Pirate4.jpg)

Here is a Ranma 1/2 Nibunnoichi game. Can you spot the error?
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/1/0818/box.jpg)
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/1/0818/error6.jpg)
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/1/0818/cart.jpg)
Here's One!
The games are:

International Super Star Soccer
Top Gear 2
Final Fight (Named Final Fighter in the cart)
Turtles IV
Aladdin
Puzzle Bobble
Galaxy Wars
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/2/0825/Cart_case.jpg)
This pirate features some common games, but is notable for containing Universal Soldier, which was never officially released.

Bomber Man
Home Alone 2
Lamborghini American (Challenge)
Magic Boy
Super Mario World
Pit Fighter
Tom & Jerry
Universal Soldier
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/2/0822/Pirate2.jpg)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on June 29, 2011, 03:59:29 PM
klax
Jun 29 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Mr.Do (possibly Dr. Mario)[/quote]Seems a bit weird that they'd associate Dr. Mario with this game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRull_aqIyA), given that it bears much more of a resemblance to Dig Dug than anything. :P

klax
 
This is an unnamed multicart that appears to have 8 games, if the label is correct. The games are:

?
Hat Trick Hero
?
SD Gundam (?)
Super Mario World
Gradius III
Super Smash TV
Super Tennis
Posted Image

(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/2/0823/Pirate4.jpg)[/quote]

I might be wrong, but the game on the top left looks like Ultraman to me. Wouldn't be surprised, as it was one of the earliest Super Famicom games. (and one of the worst, quite frankly)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: klax on June 29, 2011, 08:05:26 PM
Here's one!
This pirate feature 8 games. From the picture it looks like:

Choplifter
Top Gear
World Soccer 94
F-zero
Tom and Jerry
Congo's Caper
Goof Troop
Super Mario World
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/2/0821/Pirate1.jpg)

Hey! I found a new one!
The games on it are:

Super Mario Land IV (Super Mario World)
To Gear (Top Gear)
Joe & Mack
Super Cup Soccer (Super Soccer?)
Tom & Jerry
F1-Zero (F-Zero)
October Hunter (Hunt for Red October)
Hit The Ice
(http://www.snescentral.com/1/0/0/1008/Snes8in1_cart.jpg)
Here's "Picachu" For the SNES!
 (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7640/downsized0218011509.jpg)
And King Of Fighters 2000!
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3964/0218011512.jpg)
Here is MK III! Can you find the word PlayStation on the back?
(http://www.nineoverten.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mortal-kombat-front.png)
(http://www.nineoverten.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mortal-kombat-back.png)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on June 29, 2011, 09:08:57 PM
I love it when pirates end up putting a snippit from a magazine on the back of the box :D

That Picachu and King of Fighters 2000 are both my pics btw =p I was selling them on this forum even some time ago haha.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: klax on June 30, 2011, 09:27:00 AM
Barver
Jun 29 2011, 09:08:57 PM
I love it when pirates end up putting a snippit from a magazine on the back of the box :D

That Picachu and King of Fighters 2000 are both my pics btw =p I was selling them on this forum even some time ago haha.[/quote]Really? sorryy man. am I allowed to use them?
Here's Goldeneye 007!
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110415055632/piratedgamemuseum/images/2/29/0PxcI.jpg)
This one's cool, seeing as how Mario and Wario was never released in america.
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110415061835/piratedgamemuseum/images/4/40/Marwar.png)
This Mega man 7 is just sad.
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110402085639/piratedgamemuseum/images/e/e4/Rockman7-Pirate-5.jpeg)
This "Supreme Edition Detonado" of Donkey kong country 2 is kinda real looking.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110416043444/piratedgamemuseum/images/5/51/63587_477754780777_527675777_6328905_5338889_n.jpg)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: PlayerSecelt on July 04, 2011, 04:48:33 AM
I'm curious on what's GoldenEye like. Maybe a hack of Wild Guns (I think it's called like that)?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 04, 2011, 05:00:28 AM
GoldenEye is just James Bond Jr. Not sure if it hacks the titlescreen, but I do know it's the regular game otherwise.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on July 04, 2011, 07:35:24 AM
klax
Jun 29 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Oh! I found another one!
Games:
Super Mario World
Contra III (98?)
Sonic and Knuckles
Mr.Do (possibly Dr. Mario)
Aladdin
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/2/0820/Pirate3.jpg)
[/quote]Sonic and knuckles was never on the SNES though. so in this case it might be Sonic SNES or possibly Sonic 2 SNES or might be somthing unrelated which some multicarts tend to do.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: PlayerSecelt on July 04, 2011, 04:36:10 PM
It could be a sprite hack of some other game.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 05, 2011, 07:32:44 AM
Any multicarts with Sonic and Knuckles art is just Sonic 4. Most typical way you find it on multis,
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on July 06, 2011, 01:56:20 PM
So you have found multicarts with Sonic 4 before?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 08, 2011, 08:05:11 AM
Got another pic of Aladdin II

(http://oi53.tinypic.com/2n6hqj5.jpg)

The II is much clearer, and it uses the same artwork that the original copy of Aladdin II for MD uses(don't have a pic of that but saw it for auction a year ago somewhere), so it seems more likley pirates ported that back to SNES. Pretty dumb =p
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: klax on July 08, 2011, 01:37:21 PM
Here's dragon ball z 2 final bout
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/1/0815/cart2.jpg)
(http://www.snescentral.com/0/8/1/0815/dbzfinalbox(pirate).jpg)
And here's Final fantasy Tactics 4
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110404044720/piratedgamemuseum/images/6/6e/Ff4.jpg)
I never knew the animaniacs were so popular with pirates!
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110403033755/piratedgamemuseum/images/c/c5/Img.jpeg)
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110403033717/piratedgamemuseum/images/7/76/Anima.jpeg)
And lastly Cool spot
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110401014314/piratedgamemuseum/images/8/87/Spotdream.jpeg)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 08, 2011, 01:49:42 PM
I wonder if that DBZ cart is actually a port of the Mega Drive pirate. :huh:
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on July 08, 2011, 01:58:40 PM
yeah, i'm pretty sure it is.

i wonder what that Final Fantasy Tactics 4 is? just regular FF4?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on July 08, 2011, 09:43:38 PM
I think cool spot was ported on the Super Nintendo and it has the seal of quality and i have seen fake ones like some Sonic SNES cartridges and Super Mario 4 on gameboy so that cart may be real or fake.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 08, 2011, 09:45:31 PM
klax, why is it you gotta fill the topic up with more pics of PIRATES OF OFFICIAL GAMES :x This thread is for obscure pirates, as in originals, not a pirate of a common game like Animaniacs. I don't care about multicarts with lots of common games anyway, or a pirate of Cool Spot. It's kind of taking away from my post too, which was to show Aladdin II, not some more games everyone knows about :/

And if you bothered to even note you got the pics you got came from the Pirate Game Museum, you should have at least said that the Final Fantasy Tactics 4 came from a page for Final Fantasy 4, meaning it's a pirate of that.


-_-
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on July 08, 2011, 10:54:55 PM
well as for Aladdin II... i mean surely they wouldn't have ported a Mega Drive port of a SNES game back to the SNES. would they? Thats pretty impressively stupid. Maybe its a port of the official Mega Drive Aladdin game?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 09, 2011, 12:47:38 AM
Could be possible it's like Taz and it's just the first game with a deceiving label. That pic came from an auction which unfortunately, they seller already sold the cart :/ So the search goes on...
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on July 09, 2011, 01:48:09 AM
well i just checked up on the artwork, it seems to be from the Mega Drive Aladdin 1 - this is the only cart I could find of MD Aladdin 2: http://goldenagegaming.com/megadrive/images/carts/aladdin_2.jpg (http://goldenagegaming.com/megadrive/images/carts/aladdin_2.jpg)
seems to use different art entirely, but i don't know where that came from (and of course theres always the possibility that cart isnt from the original run).

so i guess it could be a port of the MD original... or, yeah, maybe its just a deceptive label (i guess pirates might consider the MD game to be "Aladdin 1" and the SNES game to be "Aladdin 2")
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 09, 2011, 03:27:55 AM
I saw an Aladdin 2 cart that was the same as the official art for the first game on Genesis, only it had a "II" just like this SNES cart and had a gold rimming around the label. I assume it was likely the original version of it, could be wrong. Saved a pic of it but lost that in a hard drive reformat :/

My bet is it's just the first Aladdin still, who knows though :x
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: klax on July 09, 2011, 02:28:04 PM
Barver
Jul 8 2011, 09:45:31 PM
klax, why is it you gotta fill the topic up with more pics of PIRATES OF OFFICIAL GAMES :x This thread is for obscure pirates, as in originals, not a pirate of a common game like Animaniacs. I don't care about multicarts with lots of common games anyway, or a pirate of Cool Spot. It's kind of taking away from my post too, which was to show Aladdin II, not some more games everyone knows about :/

And if you bothered to even note you got the pics you got came from the Pirate Game Museum, you should have at least said that the Final Fantasy Tactics 4 came from a page for Final Fantasy 4, meaning it's a pirate of that.


-_-[/quote]Well, that's really hard! But I guess I could find some. Here's Omega Brazil 97.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110415060029/piratedgamemuseum/images/c/c7/JBHRm.jpg)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Azathoth on July 09, 2011, 02:42:33 PM
I've seen pictures of the Dragon Ball Z: Final Bout for SNES, and it is definitely a port of the Mega Drive version.

About Aladdin II, could that be the same as Aladdin 2000? I've seen it pop up a couple times but nobody offered screenshots.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 09, 2011, 02:47:58 PM
Can you provide those pictures of DBZ? I don't recall seeing that version before.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on July 09, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
ooh. i found this forum thread in Portuguese about Aladdin 2000:
http://www.nesarchive.net/forum/index.php?topic=20297.0 (http://www.nesarchive.net/forum/index.php?topic=20297.0)
to quote a google translation: "was NOT the original Aladdin (Capcom), but a kind of remake of the mega drive called Aladdin "Aladdin 2000." "
& here's a video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS1jiU2fnFo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS1jiU2fnFo)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 09, 2011, 03:48:49 PM
So it's a port of a game made for the console that the original game was made for? O_o
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 09, 2011, 09:05:30 PM
Nope, it looks like a port of the Genesis version :o Just like taizou suggested. Guess since the Genesis got a port of the SNES version, the SNES needed a port of the Genesis version :D

That's pretty awesome, yet another new pirate. Now the impossible task of tracking it down.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 10, 2011, 06:13:01 AM
Barver
Jul 9 2011, 09:05:30 PM
Nope, it looks like a port of the Genesis version :o Just like taizou suggested.[/quote]That's what I meant.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Doomkid on July 10, 2011, 09:12:12 AM
That looks really fun.. I always wanted this version to be on the SNES, since I never owned a Genesis. Does anyone know wether or not it's been dumped?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 10, 2011, 08:49:51 PM
It's likely not, else we'd know about it I think =p

Sorry Cheetahman, I was just confused by how your post was worded heh.

Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: codeman38 on July 13, 2011, 10:24:17 PM
As a random aside, I find it interesting how rarely SNES pirates ever made their own music.

And also as a random aside, every single SNES pirate that I've ever seen steals either its music or its sound engine from Capcom. Aladdin, obviously, steals the music from Aladdin; the two Pokemon games steal music from Bonkers; and many of the fighting games have music stolen straight out of SF2. But even the ones that do have original music (e.g., Pokemon Stadium and Super Big 2) have a sound engine stolen from Super Pang.

Edited to add: Pirates have been using the Super Pang sound engine for a good while, too. "Gamars Puzzle", one of the first unlicensed things known for SNES (it's a 9-piece picture puzzle from the BIOS of a ROM dumper from 1994!), uses the samples from Super Pang at the very least.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on July 13, 2011, 11:11:50 PM
I wonder if they had some kind of development tool in common then? Gamars published Taiwan 16 Mahjong 2 AFAIK (and some undumped Chinese Chess game) which also uses the Super Pang sound engine and seems very much like something developed by one of that whole Taichung set.

so maybe Gamars/Kaiser (also credited in Puzzle, I dunno if they're the same company or they just worked together) made a dev kit, with their presumably decent technical knowledge of the SNES, but didn't have the development talent to make much more than that Puzzle game with it.. then they hired some more experienced developer to make those two games for them, and said dev just kept the tools afterwards? i dunno, i'm totally just speculating here.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: codeman38 on July 13, 2011, 11:35:08 PM
If I'm understanding this Chinese forum thread (http://www.5i01.com/topicdetail.php?f=280&t=1004382&r=3) correctly, Kaiser was the original manufacturer (they've been around since the NES days, and have released a fair amount of Famicom bootleg carts); then Gamars, which is a brand of some company called "Zi San", rebranded the unit. Or something like that, anyway.

Edit: This FamicomWorld thread (http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=3835.0) shows an actual picture of the unit. Yep, that is definitely Kaiser's logo on it, in addition to the Gamars logo.

Edit #2: Even more puzzlingly, some versions of the unit have "GAMARS" text directly under the Kaiser logo. So yeah, either they're the same company, or else one bought the other...
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 13, 2011, 11:36:49 PM
Hercules has its own music I don't recognize from anything. I was gonna send it to Azathoth so he can dump it so maybe everyone can see for themselves soon enough. I don't know the original PSX game so have no idea if it's taken from there or not. Better than the Genesis soundtrack though IMO.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 14, 2011, 07:29:30 AM
codeman38
Jul 13 2011, 11:35:08 PM
Edit #2: Even more puzzlingly, some versions of the unit have "GAMARS" text directly under the Kaiser logo. So yeah, either they're the same company, or else one bought the other...[/quote]Dunno about that. A few of Sachen's games did the same thing with the Hacker logo, and they were two different companies.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: klax on July 17, 2011, 10:24:04 AM
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430014509/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/single/super_punchout.jpg)
Drat! I don't own a "Super Game"! Look's like I can't play Punch-out! ;)  
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430012325/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/single/street_fighter_3-f.jpg)
What? a street fighter pirate? on a nintendo sytem? I'm shocked!  :lol:
(http://web.archive.org/web/20070106125733/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/single/Tekken_2_cart.JPG)
No comment.
(http://web.archive.org/web/20070106125207/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/7-in-1.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20070106125709/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/7-in-1%282%29.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030802215528/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/7in1(3).jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030803011112/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/9-in-1.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430012653/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/10in1.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430031101/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/6-in-1.jpg)(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430024538im_/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/4-in-1-cart.jpg)
Here's a shat load of SNES Mulitcart's.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: KingPepe on July 17, 2011, 11:42:45 AM
klax
Jul 17 2011, 10:24:04 AM
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430014509/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/single/super_punchout.jpg)
Drat! I don't own a "Super Game"! Look's like I can't play Punch-out! ;)  
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430012325/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/single/street_fighter_3-f.jpg)
What? a street fighter pirate? on a nintendo sytem? I'm shocked!  :lol:
(http://web.archive.org/web/20070106125733/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/single/Tekken_2_cart.JPG)
No comment.
(http://web.archive.org/web/20070106125207/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/7-in-1.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20070106125709/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/7-in-1%282%29.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030802215528/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/7in1(3).jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030803011112/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/9-in-1.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430012653/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/10in1.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430031101/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/6-in-1.jpg)(http://web.archive.org/web/20030430024538im_/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/images/multi/4-in-1-cart.jpg)
Here's a shat load of SNES Mulitcart's.[/quote]Is it me or are none of these pics showing up?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: codeman38 on July 17, 2011, 12:07:35 PM
Yeah, please link directly to the images if you're using the Internet Archive. They use a system of redirects that doesn't allow the images to be embedded.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: klax on July 17, 2011, 04:31:52 PM
http://web.archive.org/web/20030802164823/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/pirate-multi.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20030802164823/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/pirate-multi.html)
http://web.archive.org/web/20030802123234/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/pirate-single.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20030802123234/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/pirate-single.html)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 17, 2011, 04:50:40 PM
Am I the only one that finds it weird that most of these pirates are in the American SNES format? There's a lot more Famicom pirates than NES pirates, so I think it'd make more sense for Super Famicom piracy to be a lot more common than SNES piracy.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: klax on July 17, 2011, 04:58:53 PM
Cheetahmen
Jul 17 2011, 04:50:40 PM
Am I the only one that finds it weird that most of these pirates are in the American SNES format? There's a lot more Famicom pirates than NES pirates, so I think it'd make more sense for Super Famicom piracy to be a lot more common than SNES piracy.[/quote]So, your basing your theory off the fact that people did something once, so they must do it again! Genuis!What's that? You've one a noble pri... (Mr.sarcasm pulls up and shoot's klax in the back of the head)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on July 17, 2011, 05:00:56 PM
I guess its down to the popularity of clones more than anything else. Famiclones spread the 60 pin format all over the world, whereas 72 pin games were mostly restricted to countries that saw the official NES (plus Brazil).

but the SNES was rarely ever cloned - its only recently that a few handheld SNES's and multi-system clones have been produced in any great numbers. I guess official US SNESs made inroads into South America but the Euro SNES and Japanese Super Famicom never really took off in the ex USSR and Asia the way Famiclones did there. so most SNES pirates were produced for South America, with the odd SFC format multi or single cart made for Taiwan.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 17, 2011, 05:07:51 PM
I see what you mean. I'm guessing that Steepler would've probably distributed the SNES (or a clone of it) in Russia had they not gone out of business in 1996. Out of interest, would a Super Famicom pirate work on a PAL SNES?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: klax on July 17, 2011, 05:20:48 PM
don't JP games work on PAL sytems?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on July 17, 2011, 05:21:59 PM
I think Steepler did distribute the SNES. but it didnt do so well because it was too expensive. Plus Steepler had an official contract with Nintendo for that one so they wouldnt have been selling pirate carts alongside it.

no idea if an SFC pirate would work on a PAL SNES though.. I dunno much about the SNES's lockout system, if its more down to the carts or the console or what.
klax
Jul 17 2011, 05:20:48 PM
don't JP games work on PAL sytems?[/quote]Official ones certainly don't, not without an adapter anyway.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on July 17, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
I found an Adventures of Rookie Cartridge from the SNES central site. It is supposed to be an unlicenced game for the SNES but surprisingly there is no footage of it just this cartridge.
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z394/SUPERSONICDUDE91/adventureofrookie.jpg)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Someone on July 23, 2011, 05:30:02 PM
in this page: http://snesorama.us/board/showthread.php?t=35019 (http://snesorama.us/board/showthread.php?t=35019)

There is a full nongoodsnes rom set wich includes two pirate versions of 101 dalmatians. One Says "101 DALMATAS (Peruvian Hack)", and the other says "101 Dalmatas (Unl)". The only problem is that you have to download the complete romset (1,6 GB aprox) to can have this two versions, if i have some time in my home, i'm going to try to download it, or if another good soul want's to download the romset and upload the two games i have no trouble at all   ;)  :lol:
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 23, 2011, 05:52:12 PM
Can't you just download the first part of the romset and do it that way?
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on July 23, 2011, 05:52:48 PM
oh yeah, the Adventure of Rookie, that comes up every so often - it's not an unlicensed games, its a pirate of Tatakae Genshijin 2: Rookie no Bouken, aka Congo's Caper.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Someone on July 23, 2011, 06:00:51 PM
Cheetahmen
Jul 23 2011, 05:52:12 PM
Can't you just download the first part of the romset and do it that way?[/quote]mmmmm i'm not sure, i think when you try to unzip the first part, it ask you for the part two, but i'm going to try it anyway, thanks
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Azathoth on July 23, 2011, 08:55:05 PM
101 Dalmations is in the link previously posted by Barver that was the complete pack of Twin Eagle games.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Someone on July 23, 2011, 09:45:11 PM
Azathoth
Jul 23 2011, 08:55:05 PM
101 Dalmations is in the link previously posted by Barver that was the complete pack of Twin Eagle games.[/quote]Great!, thanks man  :D
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 23, 2011, 09:52:01 PM
Yeah, but as far as I was aware there was never a dump of that game publically. I assume the dump I got(which game directly from TEG) possibly was a ROM not dumped from cart, while the ones in that torrent might be from a cart someone bought. It's worth checking out since the ROM I got doesn't even work in any emulators, maybe those other two do?

If you've already started downloading the torrent I'd keep at it just to see. Sucks they make you download the whole 1.6gigs rather than separate files, but I guess that reduces the amount of people who don't seed. I hate it when they do that though :p
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Someone on July 24, 2011, 08:22:14 PM
Well, finally i decided to download that 1,6 GB, and the two roms work fine. Both are the same game (Bethoven hack), if you wanna give it a chance, here you have the download link:

http://www.mediafire.com/?k17rx6ma4kagk91 (http://www.mediafire.com/?k17rx6ma4kagk91)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 25, 2011, 12:13:53 AM
Thanks for going through the trouble of downloading the whole thing just for that one game =p Looks like it was worth it afterall since now we've finally got a working rom!
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 26, 2011, 11:24:04 PM
Could this be what I think it is?

(http://oi52.tinypic.com/2u3zg4h.jpg)

In all likelihood it's probably Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel, or Mr Nutz. Waiting to get more info from the seller. :|
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on July 26, 2011, 11:33:38 PM
omg. i hope it's really Squirrel King. I fucking love Squirrel King.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on July 26, 2011, 11:37:09 PM
I'd just love to hear the SNEs renditions of the music, or whatever the soundtrack they use is. Unless it's Bonkers, cuz you know, we've had enough of that =p
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on August 07, 2011, 11:56:24 PM
Yeah usally the SNES soundtracks sound better than the Sega Genesis. A good example could be Sparkster and Wayne's World Bohemian Rhapsody. It could either be a port of Squirrel King or mabey another game.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on August 08, 2011, 12:02:55 AM
SUPERSONICDUDE91
Aug 7 2011, 11:56:24 PM
It could either be a port of Squirrel King or mabey another game.[/quote]Gee, no shit?  =O
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on August 08, 2011, 05:42:42 AM
SUPERSONICDUDE91
Aug 7 2011, 11:56:24 PM
Yeah usally the SNES soundtracks sound better than the Sega Genesis.[/quote]In terms of ports, maybe. However, a lot of the Mega Drive exclusives sound a fair bit more impressive from personal experience.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Pepper-98 on August 08, 2011, 06:33:35 PM
SUPERSONICDUDE91
Aug 7 2011, 11:56:24 PM
Yeah usally the SNES soundtracks sound better than the Sega Genesis.[/quote]With unlicensed games, not always.  With the current SNES titles, they're likely ports of the MD version, and are rushjobs moreso than the original game they're porting.  Keep in mind that these are bootleggers; many have used the Bonkers sound engine without even writing any new songs.  They just use Bonker's soundtrack rather than making their own.

If this game is Squirrel King, it would be heaven for me.  I love the idea of great developers like Gamtec being on other systems, even though that probably isn't the case here.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on August 08, 2011, 06:39:18 PM
Qiezei
Aug 8 2011, 06:33:35 PM
If this game is Squirrel King, it would be heaven for me.  I love the idea of great developers like Gamtec being on other systems, even though that probably isn't the case here.[/quote]As much as I wish it was, I really doubt it. Knowing what pirates are like, it's probably Mr. Nutz or something like that.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Azathoth on August 09, 2011, 12:55:11 AM
Barver
Aug 8 2011, 12:02:55 AM
SUPERSONICDUDE91
Aug 7 2011, 11:56:24 PM
It could either be a port of Squirrel King or mabey another game.[/quote]Gee, no shit?  =O [/quote]No seriously, it may be Squirrel King.

Then again it may be some other game.

Mark my words, regardless of the circumstances, it will be one or the other.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: taizou on August 09, 2011, 12:57:04 AM
Not necessarily. Maybe the cartridge is just full of delicious candy.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: KingPepe on August 09, 2011, 01:05:45 AM
If you ask me, I think there's some drugs in that cart.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Barver on August 09, 2011, 06:17:40 AM
The seller never gave me any pics despite saying they would :/ Don't think they're gonna be responding anymore. They said it's a game where you play as a squirrel that collects fruit and attacks enemies. Doesn't sound like Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel or Mr. Nutz, but doesn't sound like Squirrel king either. I have no clue.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on August 09, 2011, 06:26:38 AM
I dunno, given how vague the description is it kind of sounds like Mr. Nutz more than anything.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Azathoth on August 09, 2011, 06:55:05 AM
I TRIED TO TELL YOU GUYS
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on August 09, 2011, 06:56:39 AM
Azathoth
Aug 9 2011, 06:55:05 AM
I TRIED TO TELL YOU GUYS[/quote]Um, not to cause offence or anything but what did you try to tell us? :huh:
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Doomkid on August 09, 2011, 09:02:37 AM
Cheetahmen
Aug 9 2011, 06:56:39 AM
Azathoth
Aug 9 2011, 06:55:05 AM
I TRIED TO TELL YOU GUYS[/quote]Um, not to cause offence or anything but what did you try to tell us? :huh:[/quote]That it was either Mr. Nutz, or any other existing SNES game... Or that it was full of candy and drugs.. Or something.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: codeman38 on August 09, 2011, 10:55:17 AM
Cheetahmen
Aug 9 2011, 06:26:38 AM
I dunno, given how vague the description is it kind of sounds like Mr. Nutz more than anything.[/quote]Yeah, from that description, it sounds quite a bit like Mr. Nutz. For extremely broad definitions of "fruit", of course.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on August 09, 2011, 11:51:45 AM
codeman38
Aug 9 2011, 10:55:17 AM
Cheetahmen
Aug 9 2011, 06:26:38 AM
I dunno, given how vague the description is it kind of sounds like Mr. Nutz more than anything.[/quote]Yeah, from that description, it sounds quite a bit like Mr. Nutz. For extremely broad definitions of "fruit", of course.[/quote]Well either way, it certainly doesn't mention throwing crates or fireballs. :P
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: MegaMario64 on February 15, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
Oh, look a game of my country!
i have one
of this pirated hacked brazilian SNES football hacks
Ronaldinho Soccer '98
Futebol Brasilieiro '97
Futebol Brasileiro '98
Futebol Brasilieiro
And alot of this
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: GirlGeek on January 18, 2015, 10:56:53 PM
Fake SNES games on sale on Aliexpress http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Games-for-SFC/633347_259758390.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Games-for-SFC/633347_259758390.html)
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/11/30/98/img_2011.jpg)
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/11/30/98/img_2012.jpg)
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: Rocman X on January 24, 2015, 04:30:09 PM
I now know that the SNES version of Hercules 2 exists, because I watched a Spanish video of it. http://youtube.com/watch?v=vVgN4cBiqH0/ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vVgN4cBiqH0/)
The music is based on the Megadrive version, and appears to be an original sound engine (a first?). But it sounds very poor compared to the Megadrive version. It's also worth noting that both games' music is from the PSX version (I've played it myself), but sometimes the music is incorrectly placed in the Megadrive version. I'll have to play it when it's dumped...
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: yacopu on January 24, 2015, 10:08:32 PM
Judging by what sounds like Street Fighter II sounds, it seems that the developers reused Capcom's sound engine.. much like in other games such as Pocket Monsters, and Pokemon Stadium. That video's a pretty neat find.
Title: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: GirlGeek on February 06, 2015, 11:40:32 AM
Fake game RPG and hack on Aliexpress http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Games-Card/633347_259758390.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Games-Card/633347_259758390.html)
Title: Re: Obscure SNES pirates
Post by: MWK on March 21, 2020, 09:54:41 AM
Here is mine along with Ken-Kid SFC pirate console:

(http://mwk1.vot.pl/contrabanda/img/sfc_mwk.jpg)
hires >> http://mwk1.vot.pl/contrabanda/img/sfc_mwk_hires.jpg