- etabeta78
- Mar 23 2011, 05:25:32 PM
1. The game labeled in GoodGBx as Gals Fighter is in fact Capcom Fighters 2003 (a title hack of Soul Falchion). therefore, is Gals Fighter still undumped? or is also gals fighter related to Soul Falchion?
5. Do you have any idea of where 'Harry Potter' came from?
(http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/fast/files/Harry Potter (Unl) [C]0000.png) (http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/fast/files/Harry Potter (Unl) [C]0002.png)
the intro is the same as Harry Potter 3, but the game is more Metal Slug-like (given the background graphics, I'd say there might exists a chinese Metal Slug ripoff in addition to the dumped 2001 version)
6. Are both Ice Age and Ice Age II by Sintax? and Metal Slug / Metal Slug 2001?[/quote]1. Gals Fighter is dumped under it's original name (I think).
5. I'm pretty sure it's made by Sintax (correct me if I'm wrong on that) and there's another Metal Slug clone out there where the storyline is based off 9/11. (Sintax hacked Metal Slug 2001 to do the same) Also, Harry Potter 3 is a completely different game. (it may or may not be a hack of Parodius, unsure on that because I'm more familiar with the SNES version)
6. I'm pretty sure they are.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: codeman38 on March 23, 2011, 06:49:04 PM
- Cheetahmen
- Mar 23 2011, 06:23:01 PM
1. Gals Fighter is dumped under it's original name (I think).
[/quote]Nope, it's still undumped-- taizou attempted to dump it, but there was some weird copy protection that makes it unrunnable. Soul Falchion also has the "Gals Fighters" header, incidentally.
- Cheetahmen
- Cheetahmen
- etabeta78
- Mar 23 2011, 05:25:32 PM
8. Do you have any info (developer, year, chinese title in ideograms, etc.) about the following games: 'Final Robot', 'Mo Shou Zheng Ba 3 - Hun Luan Zhi Jie (Warcraft 3)', 'Saishuu Gensou' and 'Zhong Zhuan Qi Bing'?[/quote]Saishuu Gensou is definitely by Sintax. According to the Chinese copyright database, it was released in 2005, and its title is 最終幻想: 無盡沙加 Zuizhong huanxiang: Wujin sha jia. The official English title given by Sintax is "Crystal Age".
Zhong Zhuan Qi Bing is 重裝機兵 in Chinese characters, also released in 2005 by Sintax. It's a port of "Metal Max", and that's its official English title.
- etabeta78
(http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/fast/files/Shawu Story (Unl) [C][a3]0000.png)
and this is Shui Hu Shen Shou
(http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/fast/files/Shawu Story (Unl) [C][a1]0000.png)
?[/quote]The second is definitely correct. The first is actually San Guo Zhi: Aoshi Tianjia 三國志:傲視天下.
#3 is 吞食天地:赤壁之戰 Tun Shi Tian Di: Chi Bi Zhi Zhan. "Devouring of Heaven and Earth: The Battle of Red Cliffs." (This is actually the Chinese rendering of the Japanese title of Warriors of Fate, incidentally.)
To make things even more confusing, though, it's actually a title hack of Sintax's 真三國無雙 Zhen San Guo Wu Shuang, officially titled in English as "True Three Kingdoms", as shown on 64scener's site (http://www.64scener.com/gb/unl-3king.htm).
#2: 十面埋伏:屠龍篇 Shi Mian Mai Fu: Tu Long Pian = "House of Flying Daggers: Dragon Slayer Chapter"
#4: 十面埋伏:天龍篇 Shi Mian Mai Fu: Tian Long Pian = "House of Flying Daggers: Sky Dragon Chapter"
Incidentally, both of the House of Flying Daggers games are... rather odd. They clearly rip stuff off from Vast Fame's RPGs, but are also clearly not Vast Fame productions. And their music is stolen from Telefang.
[edited to fix the ordering of the two games, which I had backwards...]- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: taizou on March 23, 2011, 07:23:30 PM- Yeah, Gals Fighters is undumped - I own a copy, I've tried to dump it myself but the resulting ROM doesnt run in any emulators - I'm not sure if its a bad dump, copy protection, an emulation issue or what. but if you or any other MESS devs want to take a look at it I could send it over, along with a few others i've attempted.
- codeman38
Zhong Zhuan Qi Bing is 重裝機兵 in Chinese characters, also released in 2005 by Sintax. It's a port of "Metal Max", and that's its official English title.[/quote]
they were registered in 2005, but AFAIK many Sintax games were registered a couple of years after they were released. Based on its ID number I'd say Zhong Zhuan Qi Bing/Metal Max was 2003, I dunno about Saishuu Gensou/Zhuizhong Huanxiang/Crystal Age but that was probably around 2002/2003 too - its one of the better made Sintax games so it might have been developed by BBD, but I dont have any proof of that.
- codeman38
the San Guo Zhi: Lie Chuan title is used on the packaging though, for some reason.
stuff no one's covered yet:
7. SKOB's Fire Emblem's full title is 聖火降魔錄外傳 - 光與暗的輪迴/Sheng Huo Jiang Mo Lu Wai Chuan - Guang Yu An De Lun Hui on-screen, but the title on the packaging omits the "外傳"/Wai Chuan.
"Sheng Huo Jiang Mo Lu Wai Chuan" confusingly has the *other* version's proper title as its ROM name, but its real on-screen title is 新光明与黑暗 / Xin Guang Ming Yu Hei An. (which incidentally seems to be the Chinese title for Shining Force). I'm not sure where this version is from, it does seem to be either a hack or some alternate release by a different publisher though.
8. Final Robot is 雷弩機神/Lei Nu Ji Shen by Gowin, 2000
"Mo Shou Zheng Ba 3 - Hun Luan Zhi Jie (Warcraft 3)" seems to be another hack of Fire Emblem, I don't know much about that one.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: codeman38 on March 23, 2011, 08:10:08 PM
- taizou
- Mar 23 2011, 07:23:30 PM
8. Final Robot is 雷弩機神/Lei Nu Ji Shen by Gowin, 2000[/quote]There's a version dumped under the Chinese name that hacks around the copy protection, incidentally. The two should probably be consolidated - Lei Nu Ji Shen [!] and Lei Nu Ji Shen [h1], or something like that.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: etabeta78 on March 24, 2011, 03:06:13 AM- First of all, thanks to everyone for the replies. I will soon incorporate these info in our xml list and probably ask for a few more titles-from-screens. :)
- taizou
if you don't mind, send me a link (even by PM). however, be aware that it can take some time before the protection is bypassed: I'm a bit more into the NES side of the emulation than into the GB one, and judge, which is our main GB/GBC expert, is busy with his family at the moment
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Post by: SpaceNinja on March 24, 2011, 03:18:22 AM- Welcome to the forum! :)
Also codeman, thanks for that info about Final Robot in the comment above, I gotta find that! :P- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: etabeta78 on March 24, 2011, 04:02:11 AM- yeah, Lei Nu Ji Shen is indeed in GoodGBx. I did not know though that it was the same as Final Robot (I should have checked the header string, probably)
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ok. here I am for another round of questions about GBC pirates
1. do you have any info (as usual proper title if mislabeled, producer, year, title in chinese characters, etc.) about the following titles: Legend of Heroes, Pokemon 2004, Stone Age and Zelda Shi Kong Zhi Zhang? they don't boot in MESS so that I have some problem checking by myself :)
2. could you give me the ideogram title for King of Fighters R-2 (at least the GoodGBx version)? the title screen is the following
(http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/fast/files/King of Fighters R-2 (Unl) [C]0000.png)
3. same for the two variants of Shui Hu Shen Shou?
(http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/fast/files/Shawu Story (Unl) [C][a1]0000.png) (http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/fast/files/Shawu Story (Unl) [C][a2]0000.png)
4. and two last titles in need of the title in chinese characters (to complete my notes)
(http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/fast/files/Shin San Guo Shi 2 (Unl) [C]0000.png) (http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/fast/files/Yongzhe Dou E Long 4 (Dragon Quest)0000.png)
5. Does anyone have info on the two DQ1 & 2 compilations in GoodGBx? have anyone seen them in real carts or are they fanmade?
they can be found in the net as "Dragon Quest I & II (J) [c][p1]" and "Yongzhe Dou Elong 1 & 2 (Unl) [c]", and they only differ of a few bytes in the second half of the dump...
Finally a GB question. The wiki has various info about Sonic 7 and 8, but has anyone info about Sonic 6 for GB? Is a graphical hack of Speedy Gonzales, but I have been unable to track down info on it...- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: codeman38 on March 24, 2011, 11:19:48 AM- #4:
The first game is a sequel to Sangokushi Act C, using the alternate title of the original: 真三國無雙2 Zhen San Guo Wu Shuang 2. (The last character looks different because it's written the Japanese way-- that'd be "Shin Sangoku Musou 2" in Japanese, just as the title screen suggests.)
Dragon Quest 4 is just the official Chinese name of the series, Yongzhe dou elong (勇者斗恶龙).
#1:
Legend of Heroes is the official English title of the game. In Chinese, that's 英雄传说 Ying Xiong Chuan Shuo; the English title's a literal translation of that. Incidentally, this is one of Waixing's few GBC games. Waixing even has a video page for the game (http://www.waixing.com.cn/cn/yougou/product.asp?id=300)... but of course, this being Waixing, they didn't actually check their embed tag to make sure it contained a URL to the video.
I have no idea what Zelda Shi Kong Zhi Zhang is, honestly. The Chinese name for Oracle of Ages is 薩爾達傳說:時空之章 Saerda Chuan Shuo: Shi Kong Zhi Zhang - "The Legend of Zelda: Space-Time Chapter" - but the ROM dumped under that title is most definitely not Oracle of Ages. It appears to be some sort of Digimon-themed RPG by Vast Fame, at least from what I can gather in a tile editor.
Stone Age is 石器時代:精靈王誕生 Shi Qi Shi Dai: Jing Ling Wang Dan Sheng "Stone Age: Birth of the Goblin King".- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: taizou on March 24, 2011, 06:12:58 PM- 1. Pokemon 2004 runs in Visual Boy Advance, it seems to be a hack of the US version of Pokemon Crystal. you start out with Pikachu and the maps are different, dunno if anything else significant is changed.
2. 格斗至尊2003 / Ge Dou Zhi Zun 2003. Its a title hack though.
3. 水滸神獸 (Shui Hu Shen Shou) & 水滸傳 (Shui Hu Zhuan)- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: etabeta78 on March 24, 2011, 06:52:25 PM- thanks to all of you for the help!
I think now I have properly identified and labeled all the pirate GBC games which were floating around :)
Also thanks a lot for the chinese titles: I really think that documenting them is as fundamental as using the proper romanization of the title screen (instead of fake names based on the header string, like Bokujou Monogatari 2 (Unl) or Shawu Story (Unl)).- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: taizou on March 25, 2011, 02:06:11 AM- awesome. ;D im glad someone cares about having these games properly named - those completely wrong GoodGBX names have been around for way too long now. the Shawu Story two games/one name thing was particularly bad (although i guess you can partially blame Vast Fame there for not updating their headers)
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Post by: Barver on March 25, 2011, 05:53:16 AM- I own a pirate of Yongzhe Dou Elong 1 & 2, just the Japanese version though, no changes. It was released in Japan as Dragon Warrior I & II. Not fanmade, it was a real compilation.
Sonic 6 is just a Speedy Gonzales hack(not of the GBC game Speedy Gonzales: Aztec Adventure, but the first monochrome one simply titled "Speedy Gonzales"). Only differences are a Sonic sprite ripped from Sonic 3 for Genesis that replaces Speedy's sprite, and the level order is different. Sonic 6 starts in the forest level, not sure what the order was from there. But there's nothing more really significant to say about it.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: etabeta78 on March 25, 2011, 06:20:18 AM- If you let me digress a bit, I'd like to add some info about my background with pirate games and emulators.
My first work in the emu-world was the creation TOSEC datfiles for NES around 2004-2005. it has been a 2-years work (because I had limited spare time) done by manually examining and comparing in an hex editor *ALL* available carts, but it gave me a lot of satisfactions because in this way I was able to fix tons of wrong names both among hacks and chinese pirate carts
I was especially careful when I sorted the pirate dumps, because the info available at time were very limited (basically only jbholio's site, famicom no tobira, rinkaku's website and chinese forum posts translated through bizlingo). however, I think the end result was pretty good (impression confirmed by the fact that most of my changes went back to GoodNES in the subsequent releases) and it made me appreciate the small gems hidden among these carts
It was therefore natural for me to try doing the same with other systems now that we are working on software lists for MESS. And, if for NES/FC I had tons of notes stored in my HDs [1], for other systems I would have been completely lost without your wiki (and the links there)
in exchange, if I find my old backup CD with cart pictures, I might have some files for the Pirate Museum Wiki :)
[1] I think that before the creation of these boards, my notes were one of the most up-to-date collection of info about pirate NES/FC carts. But now they have been largely superseded by your bootleg wiki (and the brilliant researches you all have done). Indeed, I plan to eventually go through NES pirates once more, in order to fix any mistake I might have done in my old notes :)
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- Barver
I know very well about the Japanese compilation. But both these Chinese versions in GoodGBx have a green selection/debug menu when you load the game, that makes me think to a fanmade cart or to an hack which has never been put in real carts
- Barver
I was wondering if this game comes from a real cart or if it has been created by some hacking group... it seems weird that this 'Sonic World' company which appears on the title screen has never been mentioned elsewhere if they really marketed this cart (I have seen weirder things with pirate carts, but still I was curious to see if you guys had any other info :) )- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: codeman38 on March 25, 2011, 10:35:58 AM- Incidentally, etabeta78, do you have any experience with GBS ripping (or know anyone who's good with it)? I'd love to see music rips of some of Vast Fame's bootlegs, which all have surprisingly good original music.
Soul Falchion and both versions of Rockman DX3 have been ripped, but I don't recall seeing any other VFame music rips out there. I'd especially love to see Shui Hu Shen Shou and Shi Kong Xing Shou ripped, because those have some amazingly catchy tunes.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: taizou on March 25, 2011, 01:14:02 PM- I'm not sure about Sonic 6, I have seen real carts but I dunno if they were the original release or if it was a fan-made rom hack that eventually got pirated like the SNES Sonic 4.
my hunch would be that its a pirate creation, based on the name at least.. but I doubt "Sonic World" is a company or anything, its probably just one of those random fake copyrights that get inserted into pirate hacks (like Super Mario 14, which is "©1993 Wario")- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: Barver on March 25, 2011, 05:12:40 PM- My copy of the Dragon Quest 1&2 doesn't have any debug menus. Well, as far as I went anyway, I might have not gone further than the title screen since I was just testing. I'll have to check again.
And Sonic 6 is a cart release, yeah. The cover is stolen from Sonic R for Saturn.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: DoctahWiwey on July 02, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
- etabeta78
- Mar 24 2011, 04:02:11 AM
yeah, Lei Nu Ji Shen is indeed in GoodGBx. I did not know though that it was the same as Final Robot (I should have checked the header string, probably)
UPDATE
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ok. here I am for another round of questions about GBC pirates
1. do you have any info (as usual proper title if mislabeled, producer, year, title in chinese characters, etc.) about the following titles: Legend of Heroes, Pokemon 2004, Stone Age and Zelda Shi Kong Zhi Zhang? they don't boot in MESS so that I have some problem checking by myself :)
[/quote]
I've tried to run Zelda Shi Kong Zhi Zhang (my Chinese friend said it could mean "Zelda is a Control Freak" >_>) in VisualBoyAdvanceCE, bgb, and Gambatte. BGB in particular gives a "ROM checksum fails" error, though there is another dump that has 4 or more errors (including the ROM checksum failure). Sadly, the game never seems to load past a blank screen so I'm not even sure if it's a playable game. I mean, the error window does say it wouldn't matter to a regular GameBoy but it doesn't load on any of the emulators I have tried. Then again maybe I don't quite understand how Gameboy emulation works and there just hasn't been a good dump of the game yet. *shrug*
I hope I helped, even if it was only a bit.
One more thing I just noticed: The header in bgb for the Zelda game says DIGIMON. I'm not sure if that has any significance but the header seems to be different depending on which game you are playing.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: codeman38 on July 03, 2011, 02:53:04 PM
- DoctahWiwey
- Jul 2 2011, 09:27:55 PM
One more thing I just noticed: The header in bgb for the Zelda game says DIGIMON. I'm not sure if that has any significance but the header seems to be different depending on which game you are playing.[/quote]Yeah, that was one of the things that led me to think that maybe the ROM is in fact a VFame Digimon game. The other being that the Nintendo logo that's checked by the BIOS, which can be displayed with this Python script (http://snipt.net/codeman38/display-gameboy-rom-logo?key=6cf59e953cb9cef196a0a72f37ecb777), reads "DIGI."
Well, that, and the fact that when viewed in a tile editor, there are scrambled bitmaps that are still clearly Digimon characters.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: Barver on July 03, 2011, 10:34:27 PM- Haha, your chinese friend misunderstood the characters to be Zelda是失控...something, not sure what he thought Zhang represented. The title of the game is actually Zelda 時空之章, which is like Zelda The Chapter of Time. I always assumed it was just a pirate of Links Awakening or one of those other two GBC games. It's probably misnamed though, just like how Beggar Prince for MD had been going around as Breath of Fire 3 for unknown reasons.
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Post by: taizou on July 03, 2011, 11:24:37 PM- Chapter of Time sounds like a name for Oracle of Ages to me. so i'd say its probably misnamed, unless Vast Fame made a Zelda game and there were just some Digimon leftovers in the ROM.
although that said, I try not to jump to too many conclusions about Chinese GB releases since since my last little haul of four horribly deceptive labels and a broken Yong Yong game >_> NOT THAT IM BITTER OR ANYTHING.
but this might possibly have something to do with it:
(http://i.imgur.com/w5QM5.jpg)
the seller called it "塞尔达 时之章" which is "zelda: Shi Zhi Zhang", same title without the "Kong". and the only other cart i've seen like that one is this:
(http://i.imgur.com/IeLle.jpg)
which is, i believe, V.Fame's Millionaire aka Crazy Richman 2 aka Baiwang Dafuweng aka other stuff.
Or maybe V.Fame turned Shi Kong Xing Shou into a Digimon game for mainland China but someone labelling the carts got mixed up between "Shi Kong Zhi Zhang" and "Shi Kong Xing Shou"? I dunno. these are just wild ass guesses as i'm sure you can tell.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: ThunderBlastMan on July 06, 2011, 01:59:35 PM- I never heard of a Legend of Zelda Pirate before.
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Post by: DoctahWiwey on July 06, 2011, 09:16:43 PM
- codeman38
- Mar 23 2011, 06:49:04 PM
- Cheetahmen
- Mar 23 2011, 06:23:01 PM
To make things even more confusing, though, it's actually a title hack of Sintax's 真三國無雙 Zhen San Guo Wu Shuang, officially titled in English as "True Three Kingdoms", as shown on 64scener's site (http://www.64scener.com/gb/unl-3king.htm).
#2: 十面埋伏:屠龍篇 Shi Mian Mai Fu: Tu Long Pian = "House of Flying Daggers: Dragon Slayer Chapter"
#4: 十面埋伏:天龍篇 Shi Mian Mai Fu: Tian Long Pian = "House of Flying Daggers: Sky Dragon Chapter"
Incidentally, both of the House of Flying Daggers games are... rather odd. They clearly rip stuff off from Vast Fame's RPGs, but are also clearly not Vast Fame productions. And their music is stolen from Telefang.
[edited to fix the ordering of the two games, which I had backwards...][/quote]To add to what you said, the Dragon Slayer title screen is taken from the Gameboy version of Azure Dreams, and some of the sprites from the Sky Dragon chapter look like they were taken from Azure Dreams and modified a bit. I only noticed it once I started playing the second game and the blocked off gate inside the town reminded me of the game. Sure enough, I looked it up on GameFAQs and it is indeed taken from Azure Dreams.
Oh, I just found something else. When I loaded Sky Dragon and then loaded a save from Dragonslayer, then walked around a bit on the glitched area, I got this:
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5200/tancaixiaoshi.png)
Glitches just make me so excited for some reason; I hope I'm not putting anyone off.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: taizou on July 06, 2011, 09:52:20 PM- hey thats cool o: i'm sure i've seen "tian cai xiao zi" somewhere before. totally can't remember where though. i wonder if its some kind of easter egg?
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Post by: codeman38 on July 07, 2011, 12:32:49 AM
- taizou
- Jul 3 2011, 11:24:37 PM
Chapter of Time sounds like a name for Oracle of Ages to me. so i'd say its probably misnamed, unless Vast Fame made a Zelda game and there were just some Digimon leftovers in the ROM. [/quote]Yeah, Oracle of Ages in Japanese is 時空の章. The Chinese title is literally the same, other than the fact that they write the possessive particle differently.
- taizou
- Jul 6 2011, 09:52:20 PM
hey thats cool o: i'm sure i've seen "tian cai xiao zi" somewhere before. totally can't remember where though. i wonder if its some kind of easter egg?[/quote]I found that same logo when digging through the two Flying Daggers games in a tile editor. Maybe that's where.
Also... that is totally Detective Conan on that Crazy Richman bootleg.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: taizou on July 07, 2011, 12:46:54 AM
- codeman38
- Jul 7 2011, 12:32:49 AM
I found that same logo when digging through the two Flying Daggers games in a tile editor. Maybe that's where.[/quote]ah yeah, that's definitely it.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: codeman38 on July 07, 2011, 12:50:37 AM- Also, on the Azure Dreams note... even the "GB" on the title screen is stolen from that! Compare the Japanese title screen (http://www.vgmuseum.com/pics7/azurej.html).
I love how they badly photoshopped the knife in place of the tower, despite it being completely the wrong size. ::snort::- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: DoctahWiwey on July 07, 2011, 02:55:56 AM
- codeman38
- Jul 7 2011, 12:32:49 AM
I found that same logo when digging through the two Flying Daggers games in a tile editor. Maybe that's where.
Also... that is totally Detective Conan on that Crazy Richman bootleg.[/quote]Which tile editor do you use? The first tile editor that shows up on Google doesn't load actual games.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: codeman38 on July 07, 2011, 03:11:44 PM- Tile Layer Pro, YYCHR, and the as-unfortunately-named-as-ever Tile Molester all work with GB ROMs.
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Post by: DoctahWiwey on July 08, 2011, 10:33:28 AM
- codeman38
- Jul 7 2011, 03:11:44 PM
Tile Layer Pro, YYCHR, and the as-unfortunately-named-as-ever Tile Molester all work with GB ROMs.[/quote]Alright, thank you. Tile Layer Pro and Tile Molester seem pretty user friendly. YYCHR seems a bit daunting, and it won't extract outside the Zip file. If I have the other two, is there anything YYCHR can do that the other two can't accomplish?
I'll PM you if I have anymore questions; I don't want to go too far off-topic.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: codeman38 on July 08, 2011, 07:02:25 PM- Nah, the other two should be fine. YYCHR can do some interesting things with different sprites having different palettes, but that's about the only thing I know of that it does exclusively.
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Post by: RVVD4029 on February 08, 2015, 02:01:06 PM- Codeman38 can i have the queen of fighting 2000 dump please?
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Post by: RVVD4029 on March 01, 2015, 01:23:17 PM- Codeman38 is there a chance of using special dumping software to redump the cartridge for legend of heroes. All i can see in my graphics editor are sprites.
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Post by: Rocman X on March 01, 2015, 06:29:56 PM
- RVVD4029
- Mar 1 2015, 01:23:17 PM
Codeman38 is there a chance of using special dumping software to redump the cartridge for legend of heroes. All i can see in my graphics editor are sprites.[/quote]That's probably because all of the background graphics are compressed, meaning they won't show up on most tile editors. I got that same result from pretty much every game by Yong Yong/Makon Soft, regardless of whether the dump is good or bad.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: RVVD4029 on March 05, 2015, 07:12:39 PM- Guys the zelda shi kong zhi zhang game is not interesting as i think it is the same thing as zelda:link's awankening dx for game boy color. Just that li cheng translated the game back to taiwanese. It is labeled MD069. While i am sure your cartridge is rare to find. I have found a generic cartridge containing the same game on taobao already.
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Post by: RVVD4029 on April 05, 2015, 10:53:20 AM- 1.
Actually while gals fighters by vast fame is undumped. It turns out super fighter 2001 alpha by li cheng was released in taiwan only because it has vfame's copyright screen. However the reason why super fighter 2001 alpha was not released back in china was because it is just a sprite/music/intro/title screen hack of soul falchion by the same company. So recreating the super fighter 2001 alpha is easy as li cheng just has to reinsert back in the music, intro, title screen, sprites back into the game. Also they have to reinsert back in two options back into the game. The rest is as easy as just graphics hacking their soul falchion game back in china. The reason why gals fighters is undumped is because all li cheng did back in china is delete the intro. Moved the ending back to the start. Inserted a new ending in the game. Modified the hud. Removed the cutscenes. Removed the character select screen. Inserted a new character select screen. Removed the title screen. Inserted a new title screen. So all li cheng has to do is reinsert back in the stage graphics and sprites.
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Actually ice age 1 is just a pirate original similar to lio and stitch by bbd. But ice age 2 is by sintax only because it is a cheap hack of their 2003 crash bandicoot game. Metal slug 2001 is by BBD only because of the music not the gameplay. But while metal slug 3 is by the same company. It is only the undumped metal slug game called metal slug 2 that was developed by sintax.
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Actually harry potter was supposed to be released by BBD. But it still got released by sintax anyway. The undumped version has sintax's copyright screen. While there is a harry potter ii by BBD. There is a intro hack of harry potter 1 that indeed was copyrighted by BBD. But i think that version is available through promotional material only.
Taizou the crazy monopoly rerelease by li cheng just removes vfame's copyright screen.
Taizou the reason why it has the header digimon is because it is the intro hack by li cheng. However the coding from vast fame was just used in the new intro only. Not the actual game.
Taizou the reason the shi mian mai fu games has a copyright screen is because it says that union bond made all of the games. It makes sense because they have similiar rpg games on the famicom.
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I think that pokemon 2004 was made by skob only because they developed the hong kong translations of pokemon crystal. So it makes sense they also did this hack of pokemon crystal. But if possible they got the rom by splitting a multcart for the game boy color then.
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The reason why it goes by that name is because it is a copyright hack by sintax. Sintax do have a similiar game dumped called Quan Ba Tian Xia.
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While shui hu shen shou is a release by li cheng. The shui hu zhuan game is just a copyright screen hack by them. So they removed vfame's copyright screen. That's all. The 2004 release of the same game is the same thing as the 2001 release except that while vfame developed everything in the game. Li cheng published the game. So it means they restored the copyright screen in the 2004 version then.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: taizou on April 21, 2015, 05:04:13 PM- ugh sorry dude but literally almost everything you said there is wrong and i'm too tired to address it
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Post by: RVVD4029 on May 27, 2015, 09:57:44 AM- 9. The first game is san guo zhi. But the dump does not work properly because the pcb board broke when it got dissembled. So the copy protection needs to be removed from the rom before it works properly.
Taizou i know those are li cheng releases of crazy monopoly and zelda link's awakening. But the roms don't work properly because the copy protection needs to be removed first.
3. Actually san goku shi act C does not display it's hud or graphics correctly because i think the rom needs to be unpadded first. Then it works properly on both visualboyadvance and bgb.
Taizou just give the gals fighters rom to me. I know how to fix it. Because the copy protection needs to be removed from the rom. Then it works properly.
Codeman38 ironically all sintax did to the copyright screen in both ice age roms is shifted it away from the game data. So to enable them back in the roms. You just have to shift htem back into the game data.
I know it is not related but legend of heroes is already emulated. So it is just a mapper hack. And the amazing robot rom needs to be unpadded before it works properly. For the donkey kong 5 rom. I think the header data got corrupted i think.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: KingPepe on May 28, 2015, 12:51:03 PM
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ugh sorry dude but literally almost everything you said there is wrong and i'm too tired to address it[/quote]I wonder why he got blocked from the wiki...- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: RVVD4029 on May 30, 2015, 07:55:06 PM- Kingpepe it is because i am making accurate edits and they don't like it. I get it.
Taizou tian cai xiao zhi would be shenzen jncota in english.
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Gals fighters is a shorter or easier version of soul falchion. I think the graphics were changed and optionally the music was changed too. Capcom fighter 2003 is not related because it is just the hong kong release of soul falchion.
Actually breath of fire 3 is just a original rpg roughly based on tian kong wu shang. So to answer the question on beggar prince. No the title screen hack is not related to the actual game. Since there is a chinese release i guess the title screen hack was released in hong kong only.
What is ironic about the san guo zhi discussion is that aoshi tianja is actually on the packaging for shenzen nanjing's version. While lie chuan is only seen on the packaging for vast fame's version.
sonic world is a company but i think they are just a copyright screen hack of twin eagle group who made pirate translations of several snes games in 2000.
What is ironic is mo shou zhang ba 3 is by sintax. But sheng huo jiang is in hong kong while fire emblem is a chinese release of the same thing. Since sintax started in 2000. We can assume mo shou zhang ba 3 was released first. Then fire emblem is a title screen hack. Then sheng huo jiang was released in 2004 only. Mo shou zheng ba 3 uses music from their navy ship battle game that got dumped on handheld underground. Fire emblem uses original music from skob's games. While sheng huo jiang is just a title screen hack of skob's version.
Ironically san goku shi is part of a line up of cartridges released in 2007 only. They were all released in china. They are mostly just title screen hacks by BBD.- Title: need some help sorting a few gbc pirate dumps...
Post by: NintariousFamicreep on May 30, 2015, 08:13:30 PM- An Ice Age hack of their Crash Bandicoot game?
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Post by: RVVD4029 on May 30, 2015, 08:14:23 PM- Ironically the king of fighters R2 title screen hack was also released in 2007.
The waixing gbc games were released in 2009.