- codeman38
- Feb 18 2011, 10:38:16 AM
On the topic of ping pong plug-n-plays (try saying that five times fast), turns out that DreamGear also has one. And it uses the VT03 version from Cube Tech (http://tec-cube.com/image/gamelist/VTmc%28vt03%29/01SPG/image/12.jpg) that's in your unit from ABL:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6164787162824794060 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6164787162824794060)
So that's yet another company whose products have been distributed by DreamGear-- I've already seen JungleTac, Trump Grand and Qi Sheng Long (though there's overlap between the latter two anyway).[/quote]i notice the video description says DreamGear but the actual video says Excalibur, then the "toy expert" comes in and says its from DreamGear - not sure what the connection is there. but he does make a ton of what i'm pretty sure are false claims about its ability to detect different types of shots so who knows. I do own an Excalibur famiclone which is manufactured by Trump Grand and quite similar to this (http://www.dreamgear.net/shop-by-platform/plug-n-play/plug-n-play-wireless-controller-with-101-games.html) DreamGear product as far as I can tell, just with a slightly different design and selection of games, so maybe there was some kind of connection between the two companies. Excalibur doesnt seem to do video games anymore though.
- codeman38
Could be, I'm not too sure though - the Cube Tech games on Waixing consoles all seem to be VT03 stuff, and Cube Tech's site doesnt list any original VT02 games apart from Magic Ball.
oh and here's the V-tac thing (http://fuji.drillspirits.net/stuff/notwii/wiii3tennis.jpg) in Wiii3 Tennis.- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: codeman38 on February 18, 2011, 08:42:39 PM
- taizou
- Feb 18 2011, 05:36:49 PM
oh and here's the V-tac thing (http://fuji.drillspirits.net/stuff/notwii/wiii3tennis.jpg) in Wiii3 Tennis.[/quote]Hm, I guess if you squint it does sort of look like V-Tac. So blurry it's really hard to tell; it almost sort of looks like the Vonage logo if you squint at it too.- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: codeman38 on March 11, 2011, 02:04:59 PM- Just discovered yet another variation of the ping-pong thing: this console (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O2R0FMBb9M) from a German company known as "MebeTeck". The ping pong cartridge included with it is clearly a derivative of Cube Tech's VT03 version, but this one's copyrighted to "Gameinis". (Somebody please tell me that name is an intentional German pun (http://www.wordreference.com/deen/gemeines)...)
Edit: Wow, no, Gameinis is not some snark at German buyers of this console-- it's an actual company in Hong Kong (http://www.gameinis.com/), which apparently is the OEM for MebeTeck's console. Huh.- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: Awesome Panda on March 11, 2011, 02:28:47 PM- So apparently, Cube Tech released some games on single carts whereas all of Nice Code's games were either on multicarts or published by SNT. BTW, wasn't that 101-in-1 multicart also released seperately? Pity he didn't show those weird light gun games, but I think it's the same one.
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Post by: taizou on March 30, 2011, 04:05:02 PM- Anyone know of a ping pong game with "Zinger" signs in the background? i came across a mention of this company just now (a PDF in the archive with those odd coloured LCD games posted by maxzhou88) and i'm sure i remember seeing one, but I can't find it. Maybe it was some other sports game though.
oh and theres a hidden Gameinis credit in the soccer game from this thing (http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Super_2-in-1), which I didn't even know existed until Cheetahmen wrote a wiki page about it (so thanks! :D)- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: Awesome Panda on March 30, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
- taizou
- Mar 30 2011, 04:05:02 PM
oh and theres a hidden Gameinis credit in the soccer game from this thing (http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Super_2-in-1), which I didn't even know existed until Cheetahmen wrote a wiki page about it (so thanks! :D)[/quote]No problem. :) Unfortunately, I know very little about the origins of this multicart. All I can deduce is that Nice Code aren't involved for once and whoever did make the games haven't made any others to my knowledge. Incidentally, the football game is much better than the one which I think is by Nice Code (2002 World Cup PK, I think it was called), which is nothing more than a penalty shootout with poor spelling. I'm guessing these are either by Cube Tech (I'm sure someone else can rule them out somehow) or that Gameinis company.
Also, does anyone know what the songs on the DDR clone are? I suspect they're 8-bit renditions of DDR songs (then again, I never actually played the original) which are given the most generic names possible on the menu.- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: codeman38 on March 30, 2011, 07:08:16 PM
- taizou
- Mar 30 2011, 04:05:02 PM
Anyone know of a ping pong game with "Zinger" signs in the background? i came across a mention of this company just now (a PDF in the archive with those odd coloured LCD games posted by maxzhou88) and i'm sure i remember seeing one, but I can't find it. Maybe it was some other sports game though.[/quote]I don't know what the connection between Zinger and Waixing is, but there's definitely some sort of connection (http://www.waixing.com.cn/en/product_net/d19.html).- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: Awesome Panda on March 30, 2011, 07:30:01 PM- Well the game itself looks just like the Ping Pong game off the Vii, apart from the signs in the background. Could be a front for Nice Code as far as I know. BTW, is it just me that noticed the Nike symbols in the background?
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Post by: taizou on March 30, 2011, 07:42:09 PM- Ah yeah, that must have been where I saw it - i think i just assumed it was reference to Waixing at the time.
can't find much about Zinger though, its full name is Zinger Software Development Company Ltd. and in Chinese its 智格软件开发（深圳）有限公司.- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: codeman38 on March 30, 2011, 08:52:53 PM
- Cheetahmen
- Mar 30 2011, 07:30:01 PM
BTW, is it just me that noticed the Nike symbols in the background?[/quote]Nope, I saw them too.
And yeah, probably Nice Code. Trump Grand shows the exact same game on their site (http://trumpgrand.com.hk/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=439)-- except that the logo in the back reads "WXTV". (WaiXing TV?)- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: taizou on March 30, 2011, 09:16:03 PM- oh that reminds me, ive seen "WX" in another (presumably) Nice Code game - its one of the high scores in Bar Room Shootout. it has a 2005 Waixing copyright number on my Super Gun King, so it could still refer to them, but it makes me wonder if there wasnt a staff member at Nice Code that coincidentally happened to have the initials WX - it seems weird that the version of that ping pong game released by Trump Grand would have a Waixing reference in the background, but the version released by Waixing themselves would replace it with another company entirely..
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Post by: Awesome Panda on March 31, 2011, 04:39:38 AM- Seems likely, given that those two letters happen to be very common in Chinese names. Of course, it'd help if any of their games had credits. As far as I can tell, all of them either don't end, go back to the title screen or just have an "End" message when you complete them.
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Post by: taizou on April 04, 2011, 07:39:58 PM- i just noticed theres yet another ping pong game out there - the one on the Zone 40, which is also on Subor's "V" (video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnLIze5BsVk)). i'd always assumed the Zone 40 would have the same one as the iSports (with the Smash/Knocks exercises) because theyre both Subor and both 16-bit, but evidently not.. the Zone & V also seem to have different tennis & baseball games too. And none of them have a Waixing copyright. hmm.
oh and in the iSports' ping pong your opponent actually appears *on top* of the table. either someone fucked up sprite ordering or Waixing really doesnt understand how ping pong works..- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: Awesome Panda on April 05, 2011, 09:02:55 AM- Funny how the game is obviously being run off an emulator. Can't make out the name of it from the video but I'm guessing it's probably EmuVT.
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Post by: taizou on May 12, 2011, 10:12:11 PM- found another "Zinger" game, on Nanjing's site of all places.
http://www.sznanjing.com.cn/Default.aspx?PN=products_page&ps=&pID=33588 (http://www.sznanjing.com.cn/Default.aspx?PN=products_page&ps=&pID=33588)- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: taizou on August 18, 2011, 03:08:47 PM- Well a ping pong game has brought up yet another odd connection - Cube Tech's VT168 ping pong (which I have on the Overmax OV-Gameplayer. it's also listed on their site) has the same music as "Tennis Exciting" which is copyrighted to Waixing and appears on the iSports, MiWi Extra here (http://youtu.be/lAM5oGO16Ns?t=3m3s) and NJ Pocket (with the copyright removed).
Tennis Exciting itself isn't on either Cube Tech's site or the Gameplayer but a quick comparison seems to indicate it runs on a similar (but slower) engine to VR Tennis which is on both. What the hell, Chinese companies. I'm kind of wondering if Wise Wang has something to do with this, he seems to have been quite closely involved with the VT168 and he's done a bit of company hopping in his time (Jungletac->Shenzhen Biikoo->Cube Tech that I know of)- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: taizou on August 04, 2013, 05:02:24 PM- oh man I might as well resurrect this thread for this one, its ping pong related again.
a couple of months back i posted a video of this ping pong game from a Timetop console: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G2mlKuVsno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G2mlKuVsno)
but the Game Over music (skip to 4:26) is actually Rainy Day by Brando: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYpjq8M-Nr8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYpjq8M-Nr8) (incidentally the latest comment on that video is from someone who listened to it in China in 1988)
...wasn't ripping off 80s Italo songs always Cube Tech's thing?- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: codeman38 on September 22, 2013, 12:39:10 AM- Was just searching back through old posts on a whim, and stumbled across this one (http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums/single/?p=8102146&t=8159149) where I'd noticed another Timetop/Cube connection back in 2011. (Namely, their Darkwing Duck clone used the same unidentified tune that's also used in the MiWi's Pang knockoff.)
So yeah. Maybe you are onto something there.- Title: connections and ping pong
Post by: taizou on September 22, 2013, 02:42:53 PM- ooh interesting. theres also the Timetop -> Waixing connection of some of their VT03(?) games (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEIwZlPuS2M) sharing music with Waixing's NES games.. and then the Waixing-copyrighted VT168 "Zuma" game appearing on Cube Tech's site. (edit: also Cube's pingpong game having the same music as Waixing's Tennis Exciting, which I posted about like four posts up in this very thread & completely forgot about)
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Post by: RVVD4029 on June 01, 2015, 11:24:40 AM- Taizou i alwasy thought the ping pong game was supposed to be a remake of nice code's port of inventor's version. Not their version i think. Also i think i saw tweeterman play the game already.
Taizou so you mean the wiii is different from the previous console in that nice code only made the other console. Not the other one.
So basically all of the clones feature either updated music or changed graphics basically.- Title: connections and ping pong
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