- taizou
- Jul 23 2011, 10:11:20 AM
well I assume Hummer Studio is Hummer Software (the company founded by ex Dragon Co people), and its nothing to do with Hummer Cheng. although for all I know there could be a relationship between the two. there are entirely too many hummers in this situation.[/quote]I doubt it, it seems a bit of an unlikely coincidence for two different developers with Hummer in the name to have such an association with pirated games. I'm guessing Hummer started up the company and some of the members of Dragon Co. moved to it.- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: taizou on July 23, 2011, 10:25:24 AM- Yeah, I guess it might have been a team he started on the mainland or something. The Chinese names are different (Hummer Software's translates to "hummingbird") but that doesn't necessarily rule it out.
incidentally i found this website http://www.hummerstudio.com/ (http://www.hummerstudio.com/) which is registered to a guy in Xi'an (http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=hummerstudio.com&prog_id=GoDaddy), where Hummer Software was based. He does seem to be a programmer but the site is just a blog for his own personal projects and there's nothing game related on there so I'm not sure if they're connected.- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 23, 2011, 10:34:12 AM- Just wondering, what's the sound engine on this system like anyway? Is it like a Mega Drive or is it a generic 16-bit soundchip?
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Post by: taizou on July 23, 2011, 10:35:22 AM- It sounds a bit Mega Drivey to me. Could be wrong though.
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Post by: Doomkid on July 23, 2011, 11:37:49 AM- My hands ache just looking at that controller.. It looks like a MD clone, in my opinion. And seriously, what's with all the 'Hummer' teams? Very strange, you'd think they wouldn't pick a name thats already been used. What's the association between games and Hummers, anyway? :P
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Post by: Ninja-Kun on July 23, 2011, 12:16:53 PM- Funny how they made a blatant Asteroids clone, and they called it "Triangle Plane" O_o
I also find curious that many games have an "exit" feature in many games.- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: codeman38 on July 23, 2011, 12:20:06 PM- Wow, 3D Bean really is the Harry Potter game for Mega Drive.
Also curious: "Labyrinth" (from the Jempire doc) is quite similar to Nice Code's game of the same name. Makes sense, though, given that Nice Code isex-Tomsoftex-Dragon people...
Edit: Same thing for "Sub War" in the same document, too!- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 23, 2011, 12:24:05 PM
- Ninja-Kun
- Jul 23 2011, 12:16:53 PM
I also find curious that many games have an "exit" feature in many games.[/quote]Action 52 and JungleTac's Wii clones did the same thing, in case you're unaware. :)- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: taizou on July 23, 2011, 12:24:11 PM
- Ninja-Kun
- Jul 23 2011, 12:16:53 PM
I also find curious that many games have an "exit" feature in many games.[/quote]They actually all do. some games don't have a title screen but it's on the pause menu instead. Which is quite convenient really, because if you exit through the menu it preserves the volume setting, but if you press the reset button it reverts back to horrible distorting 4.- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: Ninja-Kun on July 23, 2011, 12:28:23 PM- @Chettahmen: You're right, I wish more of these crappy games had an "exit" feature just to save us the work of resetting the machine to select another piece of crap :P
@Taizou: Just wondering, what's the maximum volume level? O_o- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: taizou on July 23, 2011, 12:33:39 PM- 6 I think.
and yeah, the one i really wish had an exit feature is the Overmax 151 in 1, because that doesn't even have a reset button - you have to hold the start button for a few seconds to reset. and almost invariably the crappy infrared will crap out partway through and it won't reset at all, leaving you swearing at the game unpausing and pausing itself before you give up and just switch the power off and back on.
oh yeah, something i found out a while back (can't remember if i posted it here) is that Hummer Software was bought by Prescope (http://www.prescope.com/) in 2007, and it's called Promexus (http://www.promexus.cn/) now. (the basketball game pictured on the front page of Promexus's site is the same one from this console).- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 23, 2011, 07:22:15 PM- Isn't one of the games on that website a complete ripoff of Lemmings?
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Post by: taizou on July 23, 2011, 08:11:47 PM- Hell yeah it is. Nice graphics though (http://www.promexus.cn/file/Product/%E8%9A%82%E8%9A%81%E5%B8%9D%E5%9B%BD.gif).
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Post by: taizou on July 24, 2011, 11:52:05 PM- found this website run by Promexus: http://www.igo-3dgames.com/ (http://www.igo-3dgames.com/)
it offers some game downloads for some of their consoles, namely the following (found on their alibaba page):
iGO, a 3D (with glasses) handheld console:
http://promexus.en.alibaba.com/product/331549304-210301882/3D_pocket_video_game_console.html (http://promexus.en.alibaba.com/product/331549304-210301882/3D_pocket_video_game_console.html)
apparently supports 152 2D games and 25 3D games. I guess since they say "support" rather than "built in" they were intended to be distributed via that website.
eGO, 3D touch screen handheld:
http://promexus.en.alibaba.com/product/328337508-210301882/3D_handheld_touch_screen_games.html (http://promexus.en.alibaba.com/product/328337508-210301882/3D_handheld_touch_screen_games.html)
again says it supports 152 2D games, 25 3D games plus 60 touch games.
& PI aka P-eye:
http://promexus.en.alibaba.com/product/328146032-210301882/camera_video_game_console.html (http://promexus.en.alibaba.com/product/328146032-210301882/camera_video_game_console.html)
it has a built in camera and 50 camera based games included.
There's also one more console listed on there that isn't represented on the site, the "pMat":
http://promexus.en.alibaba.com/product/331570030-210301882/Children_sports_game_mat.html (http://promexus.en.alibaba.com/product/331570030-210301882/Children_sports_game_mat.html)
I can only assume though that either none of these consoles were released or they didn't sell well at all - I can't find any evidence of them on Google (outside of manufacturers listings on various trade sites) and all of the games on their site had <10 downloads before I got there. there are different games listed on the Chinese and English versions of the page and for many of the games on the Chinese side I was seriously the first and only person to download them.
Anyway to save people having to register and download everything individually I've downloaded all the games and reuploaded them in a single archive (plus videos and some other stuff) here: http://www.mediafire.com/?5q5uc81m53w46 (http://www.mediafire.com/?5q5uc81m53w46)
All these consoles run on the 16bit GPL16258VB by Generalplus (http://www.generalplus.com/) (which is a division of Sunplus), as far as I know there's no publicly available emulator for it so you can't really do much with the files without the console, except poke around for hidden stuff. Going from screenshots and videos a few of the games do look identical to the ones on the Sunnyflyer console so I guess they were ported over, unless the EMG-whatever chip in that is similar/identical to Generalplus' thing.
also i saved this from a google cache just after jempire's site went down:
http://fuji.drillspirits.net/stuff/jempire_quote.htm (http://fuji.drillspirits.net/stuff/jempire_quote.htm)
& here's their actual alibaba page (i guess that lampshade one wasnt it lol):
http://www.alibaba.com/member/jacobchou/productgrouplist-100538292/Game_consoles.html#products (http://www.alibaba.com/member/jacobchou/productgrouplist-100538292/Game_consoles.html#products)
That Famicom style plug & play controller is kinda cute. I wish mine had been one of those instead of the big plastic monstrosity it is.
i also found this HK company with a couple of the same products listed:
http://www.newtradein.com/company-product/Wattly-International-Co-Ltd--33770.html (http://www.newtradein.com/company-product/Wattly-International-Co-Ltd--33770.html)
the "Micky Ball" is.. an interesting concept to say the least.
and heres the HK company (Wattly/Wingtech)'s archived website; (yeah im totally on some kind of mad research kick right now)
http://web.archive.org/web/20070127014845/http://www.wingtech.com.cn/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20070127014845/http://www.wingtech.com.cn/)
most of the content isnt there but the flash intro is. and among the products shown are that Excalibur 64 in 1, and the dance mat I mentioned (albeit under a different name).
& a couple more trade sites:
http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/wtmonno/product-list/catalog-1.html (http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/wtmonno/product-list/catalog-1.html)
http://www.tradekey.com/product_listall/uid/909254/Wattly-International-Co-Ltd.htm (http://www.tradekey.com/product_listall/uid/909254/Wattly-International-Co-Ltd.htm)
their previous website was located at http://www.wattly.com (http://www.wattly.com) if anyone fancies doing an archive search on that one.
theres also mention somewhere of them having a factory in Zhongshan. which I associate with Subor more than anything else. but I dunno maybe there are tons of cheap console manufacturers there.- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 25, 2011, 06:11:19 AM- I might be wrong, but isn't that thing on Guess the Way taken from Pokémon? And Raft sort of looks like River Raid crossed with stage 2 of Adventures of Tom Sawyer on the NES.
The games themselves look a fair bit more competently done than JungleTac's 16-bit games. And the sound in 054.flv kind of sounds like a Mega Drive but I can't really tell if it is.- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: taizou on July 25, 2011, 08:46:12 AM- yeah that looks like a bastardised version of Marill in Guess the Way to me. and the game itself is a ripoff of a mini-game from Bishi Bashi Special (unless some other game did it first).
Most of the games in those videos seem to have the exact same music though, I dunno what the deal is with that.- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 25, 2011, 09:08:16 AM
- taizou
- Jul 25 2011, 08:46:12 AM
Most of the games in those videos seem to have the exact same music though, I dunno what the deal is with that.[/quote]They probably figured "Well this sounds better than what you get on those other Plug N Play systems, let's just use it for most of the games because we're too lazy to compose another song". :P
Edit: Just wondering, are you doing an article on this like the Samuri 60-in-1?- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: taizou on July 27, 2011, 04:14:30 PM- nah, probably not tbh. if anything is gonna get one soon it'll probably be the ZDog.
I am planning some kind of like database of plug & play consoles and the games on them though. but I just found out I need to rewrite a whole ton of code if I want it to work so it probably won't be soon.- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 27, 2011, 04:39:10 PM- As much as I'd hate to say it, that'd be like making a database of Famiclones. In other words, it'd be near impossible because of how many of them there are. :X
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Post by: taizou on July 27, 2011, 04:56:51 PM- lol. yes probably. but when it comes down to it a lot of them are just the same damn thing with a slightly different selection of games. so we'll see.
I think what I might do is open it to contributions from other people as well. not the general public, it'd take too much work to prevent abuse and stuff. but just to a few trusted people from this board (if anyone's interested)- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 27, 2011, 05:26:49 PM- Of course. :) I'd contribute to my blog, but I've been too lazy to update it and nobody reads it anyway. :P
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Post by: taizou on July 27, 2011, 05:43:08 PM- lol, same goes for my site really. I'll post somewhere on the board if i ever get this thing up and running though. it might just be one of these things I start and never finish. hell I started it ages ago to cover those Inventor hacks, then abandoned it for a while, and now i'm back on it with a probably unrealistic expanded focus.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on July 27, 2011, 05:52:37 PM- I think it'd be a good idea for other people (who can be trusted, of course) to write pages on other plug 'n play systems and things like that. Merely a suggestion, though.
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Post by: taizou on July 27, 2011, 07:06:16 PM- Yeah, hell, i could go for that.
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Post by: codeman38 on July 27, 2011, 10:41:25 PM- That 'plink' sound in Mine Worker (001.flv) is definitely used in JungleTac games, too, if I recall.
Curious where they got that music loop from, because it had to have been from somewhere else. :)
Classic Chinese quality control-- "score" is misspelled as "socre" on the screenshot of Mine Worker on Promexus' site. (It's spelled correctly in the video, though.)- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: taizou on July 27, 2011, 11:09:20 PM- lol. "score" is one of those incredibly common game words that's never spelt right in these things. it's always "scor" or "scroe" or "scoer" or something. same goes for "bonus" - the number of times i've seen "bouns" (or even "boun")...
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Post by: codeman38 on July 27, 2011, 11:39:28 PM- ::giggle:: Yeah, I've noticed the same thing regarding "score" and "bonus". (The latter is misspelled in Tiny Toon Adventures 3!)
I know I've seen at least two misspellings of "press" (as in "press start") in Chinese Famiclones as well.- Title: Sunnyflyer 30 in 1
Post by: brightentayle on July 28, 2011, 02:07:49 AM- That gamepad fami looks neat, lemmie notice :D
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Post by: NintariousFamicreep on September 26, 2014, 07:47:21 PM
- codeman38
- Jul 23 2011, 12:20:06 PM
Wow, 3D Bean really is the Harry Potter game for Mega Drive.
Also curious: "Labyrinth" (from the Jempire doc) is quite similar to Nice Code's game of the same name. Makes sense, though, given that Nice Code isex-Tomsoftex-Dragon people...
Edit: Same thing for "Sub War" in the same document, too![/quote]First Harry, Then Pika...Now 3D Bean. =O