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Pirate Discussion => Game Boy => Topic started by: Beetle Hair on April 16, 2013, 09:29:51 AM

Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Beetle Hair on April 16, 2013, 09:29:51 AM
I've been trying to find Rockman and Crystal for quite some time now, I have been able to get ahold of Rockman DX3 and DX4, but no luck with this one. Could someone direct me to where it might show up again, or could someone please give me the Chinese name?
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Pepper-98 on April 16, 2013, 09:42:27 AM
I've been looking myself, but I haven't found it yet.  Your best bet is to check Chinese sites for it (Ebay as well for an English copy); the game's Chinese is "路克人 ZX4" (translates to Zook Man.)
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Arshes91 on April 16, 2013, 10:24:19 AM
as i remember there a blog user found rockman and crystal in Taobao site, cause is one of my intrest Gba's pirate game to dump and crack for play on emulator
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Beetle Hair on April 16, 2013, 11:05:50 AM
Yeah, it has copy protection... I did see the blog post (I think) I don't think it said anything we don't know already though. I remember it mostly just talking about the basic enemies and gameplay aspects. I could be wrong.

Thanks for the info, Qiezei. I will keep an eye out for it.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Robyn on April 16, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
I wish it was easy to find. >_> I have Zook Hero Z, Rockman DX3 but not Rockman & Crystal. It'd be a dream to own it. :D
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Beetle Hair on April 16, 2013, 06:11:12 PM
Yeah, same here. Does anyone know if Digimon Rury or Sapphire had the same programmed copy protection? If so, who cracked them?

Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Barver on April 16, 2013, 06:21:50 PM
AFAIK those were dumped from carts that had the protection already removed.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: taizou on April 16, 2013, 06:26:43 PM
yeah, I dumped Sapphire and it came from a later print without protection (or at least without very good protection)
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Beetle Hair on April 16, 2013, 07:04:15 PM
Ah, I see. Well, maybe the Chinese version will be dumpable. Thanks for the information.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Pepper-98 on April 16, 2013, 07:25:08 PM
I think the Chinese version will have copy protection too.  I recall someone trying to dump the Chinese version of Digimon Rury but to no success.  The copies of Rury/Sapphire that were dumped might've been "generic" copies of the game rather than the "official" release (which I have of Sapphire.)
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Beetle Hair on April 16, 2013, 07:32:57 PM
Oh well..... Wait, if that's the case, do you think the title screen hack of Rockman Z called Rockman DX4 would be dumpable? (It was released by Vast Fame, not some random bootlegger, though)
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Pepper-98 on April 16, 2013, 07:38:01 PM
Taizou and Rob/Xanver have tried dumping my V.Fame stuff but they haven't been able to crack the protection.  Li Cheng did release the Chinese and English Zook Z games and the HHUGBoy emulator can supposedly run those even with the protection, so there is hope on that (plus I've got two more V.Fame multis I want him to try out, since he's managed to dump some games from my other two V.Fame multis.)

Oh, speaking of Li Cheng, what boot logo does you game have?  It would show up mainly on OGB/GBC systems (GBA doesn't always show the custom logos.)  I thought at first that it might be a Li Cheng release but the numbering for their releases are DX6 and DX8.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: taizou on April 16, 2013, 07:48:51 PM
Beetle Hair
Apr 16 2013, 07:04:15 PM
Ah, I see. Well, maybe the Chinese version will be dumpable. Thanks for the information.[/quote]It isn't, unfortunately, thats the one I have.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Beetle Hair on April 16, 2013, 07:49:36 PM
As for the boot logo, it simply says V. Fame, and that confuses me because Li Cheng released Rockman DX3 as well, (I think) and the similar names (like you said) and almost identical cover art lead me to believe it was the same publisher.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Pepper-98 on April 17, 2013, 08:55:52 AM
Ah, so it is a V.Fame release; just wanted to clarify.  And Li Cheng did release Rockman DX3 (and other Rockman DX games as well) and they have a habit of hacking out copyrights and changing the title screen.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Robyn on April 17, 2013, 11:19:53 AM
Probably not the right thread to post this in, but Li Cheng seemed to put original title screens in some of their manuals by accident.

Some examples
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Pepper-98 on April 17, 2013, 11:24:48 AM
That applies to Harry Potter, but remember that the "original" release of Rockman DX3 is Zook Hero 2...Unless they did something like Crazy Richman 2 and gave it a different title for later, possibly Mainland China, revisions.

That also reminds me that I'm still waiting for my Li Cheng games...Grr...
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Arshes91 on May 02, 2013, 01:00:00 PM
I Have Reproposted a year ago to post the links of Bad Dump Rockman & Crystal also is very bad doesn't play on emulator if there a way to make a good dump maybe we try to crack this protection.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Robyn on May 02, 2013, 01:01:36 PM
No, there's no way to fix the dumps out there. It's not the full game, just a few bits repeated.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Arshes91 on May 02, 2013, 01:10:02 PM
Xanver
May 2 2013, 01:01:36 PM
No, there's no way to fix the dumps out there. It's not the full game, just a few bits repeated.[/quote]I remember Taizou in the old site have dumped a first gba game that probaly have protection or no.

could be the same thing i read have bits repeated but he tryed to fix inside in the Hex code
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Robyn on May 02, 2013, 03:18:39 PM
That was a generic copy of Digimon Sapphire, meaning it was published by somebody else who didn't really care about protection too much. That had the complete game in.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: KAGE-008 on May 02, 2013, 04:57:27 PM
Xanver
May 2 2013, 03:18:39 PM
That was a generic copy of Digimon Sapphire, meaning it was published by somebody else who didn't really care about protection too much. That had the complete game in.[/quote]Which btw had no ending. Qiezei showed it though, but that version is undumped.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Pepper-98 on May 02, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
The generic does have an ending, as I have encountered it after one level.  It shows up depending on the emulator you're using for some reason.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Arshes91 on May 04, 2013, 09:05:56 AM
intresting stuff if we got the no protection inside in the game maybe would playable just like the gba version of digimon adventure.

PS: I have a idea maybe this would work, if we use the fixed protection code inside in other gba pirate roms for example digimon Ruby Using Trought Hex code replacing those biites where can't you allow to play the game should fix this problem.

PS 2:to do we need a Good dump for rockman and crystal or alternate getting the dumped version of Sky League.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Pepper-98 on May 04, 2013, 09:51:30 AM
Someone did try to figure out the copy protection of the GBC V.Fame games by comparing a dump of Shui Hu Shen Shou with an original cart, but to no avail.  I'm not sure that doing that with the GBA stuff would entirely work.  Also, I don't think it'd be worth buying the ROMs from Sky League especially with how much they are (besides, we're slowly making progress with these dumps so to me it's more of "when" rather than "if".)
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Arshes91 on May 04, 2013, 10:24:25 AM
Qiezei
May 4 2013, 09:51:30 AM
Someone did try to figure out the copy protection of the GBC V.Fame games by comparing a dump of Shui Hu Shen Shou with an original cart, but to no avail.  I'm not sure that doing that with the GBA stuff would entirely work.  Also, I don't think it'd be worth buying the ROMs from Sky League especially with how much they are (besides, we're slowly making progress with these dumps so to me it's more of "when" rather than "if".)[/quote]I know.

Aniway i checked to myself those comparison with Digimon Ruby and Rockman and Crystal line at Hex code in vba emulator 085297E0 the error script doesn't have in digimon ruby hmmm. if i try to replace this bites for this game should happened something?

Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: taizou on May 04, 2013, 12:18:24 PM
all existing dumps of Rockman & Crystal are incomplete (unless the game is somehow only 512kb) so theres no way you could make them work.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Robyn on May 04, 2013, 12:23:24 PM
Arshes91
May 4 2013, 09:05:56 AM
PS 2:to do we need a Good dump for rockman and crystal or alternate getting the dumped version of Sky League.[/quote]I don't think anybody wants to buy a ROM, and Sky League would be pissed if they found out it was being shared. (if what you're saying, that there's a ROM for sale, is true.)
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Arshes91 on May 08, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
Xanver
May 4 2013, 12:23:24 PM
Arshes91
May 4 2013, 09:05:56 AM
PS 2:to do we need a Good dump for rockman and crystal or alternate getting the dumped version of Sky League.[/quote]I don't think anybody wants to buy a ROM, and Sky League would be pissed if they found out it was being shared. (if what you're saying, that there's a ROM for sale, is true.)[/quote]years ago's ive checked em out in Sky league Site there have bunch of roms downloable for free wile other not for keep the prevesation, ive searched in desperate some stuff man that site is very crazy.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: KAGE-008 on May 08, 2013, 07:31:09 PM
Arshes91
May 8 2013, 03:07:32 PM
years ago's ive checked em out in Sky league Site there have bunch of roms downloable for free wile other not for keep the prevesation, ive searched in desperate some stuff man that site is very crazy.[/quote]Those "downloadable" games were just reposts of dumps by other people. They still hoard SNT dumps for some reason.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: fcgamer on May 08, 2013, 09:29:18 PM
Xanver
May 4 2013, 12:23:24 PM
Arshes91
May 4 2013, 09:05:56 AM
PS 2:to do we need a Good dump for rockman and crystal or alternate getting the dumped version of Sky League.[/quote]I don't think anybody wants to buy a ROM, and Sky League would be pissed if they found out it was being shared. (if what you're saying, that there's a ROM for sale, is true.)[/quote]What legal grounds do they have for selling the roms?  If they are not the original designer/publisher, then it really isn't up to them, imo, what gets distributed and what not.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Arshes91 on May 25, 2013, 04:19:23 PM
Is strange the title screen of the game is called Battle Network rockman Crystal withouth & in the title.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Robyn on May 26, 2013, 06:32:40 AM
Could somebody lock this or something? There's seriously no point of this thread anymore, it's just Arshes pointing out obvious things now, and it's known where to find the game now.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: taizou on May 26, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
oh i think we should keep it open, if anything else interesting comes up about the game i'd rather keep it all in the same thread rather than creating a duplicate.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Robyn on May 26, 2013, 08:27:50 AM
Well, there's two threads here on R&C at the moment. Oh well.
Title: Rockman and Crystal
Post by: Arshes91 on May 27, 2013, 12:50:02 PM
Xanver
May 26 2013, 08:27:50 AM
Well, there's two threads here on R&C at the moment. Oh well.[/quote]one is mine because ive requested someone to repost the bad rom file because megaupload is closed.

I mention the title screen because i was saw someone played that game a user of youtube i don't remember the name.