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« on: May 30, 2011, 12:17:50 PM »
(Split off from the Arcade Action 101-in-1 thread, which has become increasingly less about the Arcade Action console.)

Quoting taizou in the original thread:

taizou
 
I'm pretty sure Nanjing is behind that whole series - they're all on their site here.

one of the earliest was a OneStation lookalike called the "Digital Dragon system" with Nice Code games built in and a generic multicart bundled, but they seem to have abandoned the Nice Code stuff entirely now. They all take the same type of carts (same as the FC-3000/OneStation Elite I think - just miniaturised famicom carts) but I've never seen anywhere that actually sells additional carts separately since the FC-3000 itself went out of production.

there's also this one, the "NJ Pocket" which kind of gives the game away. although that one's 16-bit and it doesn't have a cart slot.[/quote]
And indeed, the GB Station and PVP Station are both listed on Nanjing's site.

But that's not all! Searching for the model number of the NJ Pocket, NJ250A, turned up this:

http://sznanjing.en.made-in-china.com/

Which is... exactly what it looks like. An index of products being sold wholesale by Shenzhen Nanjing. This includes the NJ Pocket, the GB Station, and the PVP Station.

They also list several "Arcade Game Stations", which are... interesting. No, they're not Wii clones like the Wow (I'm surprised those aren't listed on the site, actually)... these are PlayStation 2 lookalikes which can load movies and various consoles' ROMs from a flash card. Sounds very similar to the GameBox reviewed by TweeterMan... except, y'know, this one's made by Nanjing and looks like an older-generation system.
Apparently some of these portables are based on the 32-bit SP350 chip (Sunplus?), at least if this Alibaba listing is to be believed.
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 12:32:36 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if the GameBox itself was made by SNT and then distributed by San Bai or something like that. Seems to be the same thing in a different shell as far as I can tell.

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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 12:52:41 PM »
codeman38
May 30 2011, 12:17:50 PM
Apparently some of these portables are based on the 32-bit SP350 chip (Sunplus?), at least if this Alibaba listing is to be believed.[/quote]Those SP350 ones seem to be generic media player-type things with emulators built in, so yeah it wouldn't surprise me if they were Sunplus.

oh and I found this one on Taobao a while back:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10064696271
its the NJ-250, an 8-bit version of the NJ-250a/NJ Pocket. the top image mentions "more than 300 games to freely play at your option" and there are screenshots of Nice Code games in the listing but the actual text says 25000 8-bit games, which sounds an awful lot like the generic built-in stuff from their other consoles. so i suppose they originally planned to sell it with Nice Code games but ended up replacing them with the usual pirate copies of licensed games. because they could get away with it, i guess.

(incidentally I recognise most of the NC games in the screenshots but not the one in the bottom right - it looks a bit RPGish to me, anyone know what it is?)

the same seller also has a bunch of Gameboxes and variants including the ones listed by Nanjing, the one Tweeterman reviewed and more. so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they were all made by the same company.

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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 01:09:09 PM »
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May 30 2011, 12:52:41 PM
the same seller also has a bunch of Gameboxes and variants including the ones listed by Nanjing, the one Tweeterman reviewed and more. so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they were all made by the same company.[/quote]That seller's logo is, quite literally, the same as the logo from gamebox.hk; the latter's logo even identifies them as "G-Team". So yeah, the two are definitely somehow connected.

Incidentally, G-Team also has a website at http://www.gtgame.net/ which is full of hilarious Chinglish. ("Let you fondle admiringly"!)
Oh, wow, guess what the 16-bit games on the NJ Pocket are? They're the same freaking ones from the Wow. Of course!
One of the games on the 8-bit NJ-250 is very clearly Penrlty Kick... which, up until now, had only been seen on Waixing consoles. Hm. No, wait, I'm getting my soccer games mixed up-- that one is definitely whatever Nice Code's game is titled, and not Penrlty Kick.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 01:32:01 PM »
Here's a video with the Gamelist for the NJ-250.

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 01:47:45 PM »
If I remember correctly, the menu theme is stolen from one of Capcom's games. I forget which one though. A bit odd that they'd put NES music on a system that (presumably) has 16-bit games, but it seems to be a PCM sample given the poorly-done looping.
And knowing what SNT are like, the background's probably stolen from an anime.

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 03:08:49 PM »
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Jun 2 2011, 01:47:45 PM
If I remember correctly, the menu theme is stolen from one of Capcom's games. I forget which one though. A bit odd that they'd put NES music on a system that (presumably) has 16-bit games, but it seems to be a PCM sample given the poorly-done looping.
And knowing what SNT are like, the background's probably stolen from an anime.[/quote]Yeah, if it's VT168, it's got to be a PCM sample-- the VT168 does not appear to have any of the 2A03 sound hardware in it. And that is totally from some Capcom game...I mean, just listen to the percussion! :)

I know I've seen the girl on the menu screen, too, but can't remember what anime and/or game that's from.

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 03:21:21 PM »
hey i just got one of these too. :D
quite a weird selection of games - game 3 and 33-60 are all either the same games from the Wow/that other Sport 6 in 1 or similar games. 5-32 seem to have been developed either by a different company entirely, or possibly by the same company at a different time  - they all have the same pause menu which the other games lack, and mostly share the same few tunes (one of which is taken from a Mario game I think).

but the first few are the really odd ones - Virtual Tennis is Tennis Exciting & Baseball is World Series, as seen on various Wii clones copyrighted to Waixing. But Extreme Power Soccer is Cube Tech's from the MiWi, it even still has "YMK Software" and "Macro Win" in the background. I wonder why Nanjing didn't just use their usual sports games?

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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 04:04:04 PM »
Personally, I'm kind of interested to see the games on there, mainly to see what games/resources they ripped off. Knowing SNT, they probably threw in Theme Hospital MIDIs and stills from Digimon or something. :P

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 04:20:02 PM »
Incidentally, I'm curious what the heck "Xzero" is. Another trademark of Nanjing's? The console is definitely theirs, and the games are also registered as theirs on the copyright database...so what's with the odd boot-up logo?
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2011, 04:51:54 PM »
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Jun 2 2011, 04:20:02 PM
Incidentally, I'm curious what the heck "Xzero" is. Another trademark of Nanjing's? The console is definitely theirs, and the games are also registered as theirs on the copyright database...so what's with the odd boot-up logo?[/quote]Not entirely sure what you're implying by that, but I can't find any information on the console itself. :\ Maybe they pretended it wasn't theirs so that they wouldn't get in trouble with Macro Winners or YMK.

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2011, 04:58:55 PM »
Well i did a bit of searching, its registered in Europe to "Handsfull Technology Corporation" of Taiwan, aka Vakoss. website: http://www.handsfull.com.tw/

seems to be a distributor, this thing isnt on their website (but apparently theyre an official distributor for Nintendo in Poland, who perhaps wouldnt be too happy with them selling it). i'd guess that they had Nanjing produce a console for them with that boot logo, but Nanjing were too lazy to change the ROM for their own version. something like that anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2011, 05:13:56 PM »
Just found this clone being sold on DealExtreme for about £13. What's odd though is that despite clearly showing the same title screen as the one Takashi has, the description says it includes games like Mario, Tetris and Donkey Kong. I'm betting that the description itself is erroneous and that it has the same games on the other one. (Or SNT went to trouble of ripping off those games)

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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2011, 05:26:42 PM »
well that's where I got it from :D the description doesn't actually say it includes Mario etc, its just giving those as examples of retro games. although there is a Tetris clone on here.

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2011, 07:29:22 PM »
I put up a gallery with some photos of the circuit boards and screen pictures. Memory seems to be a 4000LOZBQO, a Intel 256Mbit 3V StrataFlash (well documented and in a nice little separate board, just as I like it). It will probably be part of my Summer of Dumping project.