Also, this is clearly a close cousin to the 88 Games In One (http://www.wayoftherodent.com/revs/88games.htm) reviewed by Way Of The Rodent. Right down to its version of Pandamar playing "Hello My Baby" instead of that weird original tune. Also, "Tactful Monkey". ::giggle::[/quote]Ah, so that's what the song was called. Also, I'm not sure if you spotted this but it actually says "Tactful Mokey" on the title screen. :lol:
Also, looking at that review I think Maze Ball is a hack of Lot Lot, Magic Block sounds like Magic Jewelry, "Buming R-16" sounds a bit like Onyanko Town or something, WWFL is likely Kinnikuman: Muscle Tag Match, (or M.U.S.C.L.E. if you prefer, although that's a pain to actually type) Super Bowl is almost certainly 10-Yard Fight and Smart Acel is probably Super Arabian. BTW, in the 101-in-1 version of Bicycle Race the bike doesn't explode upon crashing, but rather the player falls over. Also, why does that 1942 hack look like the arcade version? Might just be some edited image for the review, I'm guessing. Also, Night Arrow was actually released on a stand alone cartridge I believe, and I don't think it's by the same people who did the other hacks.
BTW, I forgot about this earlier but the main character's sprite in Roge Brer is actually Milon from Milon's Secret Castle.
Edit: Games 2-9 (and possibly F22) are all 256kb big for some odd reason. Don't see why they'd choose games that size as opposed to 128kb games which would allow them to have twice as many.
i have that 88 in 1 joystick too. its definitely closely related, even the menu is the same, but all the hacks that arent on the 101 in 1 seem to have been made by someone else entirely. someone who can't do title screens, and always uses the same font. IIRC some of them are copyrighted to "Winners".
also, F22 is fixed now - just redownload FCEU from cah4e3's site.
its quite long really. 16 stages. which i cheated my way through to see if it has an ending. and it does:
(http://fuji.drillspirits.net/stuff/f22end.png)
approx translation ~ Program: Xi Feng, Yang Rong; Art: Pei Pei
Pei Pei, you suck at drawing cutscenes. :P None of those names sound familiar to me, but then again I was never exactly a pro when it came to Chinese.
Edit: I just found that the main character's sprite in Conqueror is actually an edit of the kid from Mitsume Ga Tooru. Incidentally, there's a 9-in-1 with a repeat of that game called 3 Eyes Boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV4LFLjqxlc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL).
Remember how I'd discovered that Waixing had a copyright on a game titled "F-22"?
It is, quite literally, the same game as Inventor's F-22, just with a new title screen, a 2005 copyright date, and some sprite hacks.
No, seriously. See this blog (http://www14.plala.or.jp/you2hp/diary_200804.html) by some random Japanese blogger who bought a Subor famiclone and decided to do playthroughs of the built-in games. No way of linking directly to the post, but if you search in the page for "F22" you'll find it.
Seems like Waixing's version only has three stages though.. I guess it was cut down like Super Fight I. but this really makes me wonder what the connection between Inventor, Qi Sheng Long and Waixing was/is..
- taizou
- Nov 27 2010, 01:25:47 PM
Seems like Waixing's version only has three stages though.. I guess it was cut down like Super Fight I. but this really makes me wonder what the connection between Inventor, Qi Sheng Long and Waixing was/is..[/quote]Yeah, that's what I'm curious about as well. There is definitely
some sort of connection between all these companies, but I have no clue how much of one.
- codeman38
-
It is, quite literally, the same game as Inventor's F-22, just with a new title screen, a 2005 copyright date, and some sprite hacks.[/quote]
That's standard fare for Trump Grand, I noticed them doing that with a few Famiclones. Mind you, it might just be them taking another game and rebranding it as their own given the other games included, and espeically given that the credits were removed. Looking at that article (with Google translate, of course) they removed most of the levels and I can't tell if the engine is the same as the original.
I think no one has noticed that the ® sign in F-22 is exactly the same used on SACHEN copyrights screens (SACHEN®). The same one appear on their Game Boy pirates too.
I don't think this is saying much, but I just realised that Inventor almost certainly made Bruce & Leo, that awful Tom & Jerry hack. The size of the game is 256kb, just like the first 9 games on this thing, the hacked music sucks and the hack itself is lazy as hell. Also, the main character's sprite is also used in Rescue Kuck.
- Cheetahmen
- Jan 11 2011, 05:29:13 PM
I don't think this is saying much, but I just realised that Inventor almost certainly made Bruce & Leo, that awful Tom & Jerry hack. The size of the game is 256kb, just like the first 9 games on this thing, the hacked music sucks and the hack itself is lazy as hell. Also, the main character's sprite is also used in Rescue Kuck.[/quote]Y'know, I actually noticed that one myself. Bruce also looks more than a bit like Montana Max's stand-in in the Tiny Toons hack.
- codeman38
- Jan 11 2011, 07:53:06 PM
Y'know, I actually noticed that one myself. Bruce also looks more than a bit like Montana Max's stand-in in the Tiny Toons hack.[/quote]I'd say the supposed "Montana Max" is the same bloke on the startup screen in Bruce & Leo, except resized, with a differently coloured hat and with a worried face. Also, how can you tell which one's Bruce and which one's Leo? :P
BTW, some of the games from this multicart were recently seperated from the multicart and converted to mapper 4. Not sure where to get them from, but I'm pretty sure SpaceNinja has the zip file of the source.
Having got one of the 88 games in one joysticks, and also played the ROM of the 101 in 1, I can confirm that the 88-in-1 is essentially the 101-in-1 with fewer games - it even has a very similar selection of hacks. I'm not sure about the physical consoles though.
EDIT - I just noticed that it has a "USI" logo/mark on the bottom - I wonder if this is a manufacturer/importer?
I've got the same thing boxed, and yeah, USI is just an importer.. Macro Winners is the real manufacturer AFAIK.
Just stumbled on this page (http://www.nesplayer.com/pirates/50gamesplugnplay.htm) which shows the "50 Games Plug 'N Play", which has a lot of the hacks from this POS, although there are a few I haven't seen before:
- Air Tiger (1942, I think)
- Monster (Sonson)
- Inclement Trip (Sort of looks like Ikari Warriors or Rygar, although I somehow doubt it's either of them. Knowing pirates, it's probably something awful like Zunou Senkan Galg)
- Magic Block (Magic Jewelry made to look like Columns, sort of)
- Pocky (Ninja Hattori-Kun)
- Hot Speed (Road Fighter)
- Winter Cup (Ice Hockey, looks identical to the original as far as I can tell)
- Bumping R-16 (Route-16 Turbo)
- Panzer Fly Car (I've seen this before, but the screenshot looks like a JungleTac game more than anything)
- Xterk-2 (Geimos. Judging by the title I'm guessing they intended it to be the sequel to Van-1 or something)
- Earth Guard (Volguard II)
- Rouge Brothers (Mario Bros.)
- Smart Acel (Super Arabian?)
- Brush Roll 2 (Brush Roller with a different title, I'm guessing)
The bloke who wrote the article claims that only 38 games are listed there, but I think the other 12 are covered up by that large sticker on the back. That said, there's definitely not 50; at least 4 of them are variations of Track & Field. Also worth pointing out that the page also gives some information on Manley, the company that distributed it.
Edit 2: Turns out I was right on that assumption, if this topic (http://z10.invisionfree.com/collector/index.php?showtopic=1812) is anything to go by. It also seems to include Diamond, as in that awful Arkanoid ripoff and more Track & Field repeats. Pity I still can't find any info on that Inclement Trip game.
Oh, and while looking at that I also found a page about the 30-in-1 TV games (http://www.nesplayer.com/pirates/30in1tvgames.htm), which erroneously labels F22 as a hack of B-Wings. And the pirates seem to have made the effort to change Mario's name in the Wrecking Crew hack. Also, why is it that with these systems, Door Door and Track & Field are the only games left intact?
And as pointed out there, it's published by the same douches that thought the Snuggie was a good idea.
Edit: Looking through the site I looked at another clone of interest, the "Plug & Play (http://www.nesplayer.com/pirates/plug&play.htm)". (which is about as creative as my username :rolleyes: ) I could be wrong, but I think the blue dog on the menu is taken from somewhere or another. Looking at the games:
- City A 2000 is a Battle City hack judging by the name.
- Winbolton Champ looks like Tennis, and I'm pretty sure the name is a really bad misspelling of Wimbledon Champ.
- W.W.F. Law, as well as having a trademark-infringing name, is a hack of M.U.S.C.L.E.
- Top Gun Mission is just Sky Destroyer.
- Autumn Hunt is a really bad hack of Duck Hunt, where the dog is now wearing a blanket for no particular reason. Also note the Game Star copyright, the same company that made those awful 48-in-1 computer Famiclone cartridges.
- On The Road and such are just Road Fighter, except the "Fuel" graphic has now been changed to "Food!"
Also funny is that despite being a mere 15-in-1, over half of the games are repeats.
Have you guys noted that the City Connection hack (Goodhand) is almost impossible to understand because the floor doesn't changes its color when you drive over it? This makes extremely difficult to know what parts you already painted.
- Ninja-Kun
- Apr 16 2011, 06:14:22 PM
Have you guys noted that the City Connection hack (Goodhand) is almost impossible to understand because the floor doesn't changes its color when you drive over it? This makes extremely difficult to know what parts you already painted.[/quote]I have, and I noted it somewhere on BootlegGames Wiki if I remembered correctly.
I'm sorry for making this newbie question, but what game was originally "Caesar Captain"? It looks like a Sachen game, down to the music and everything. They might as well call it "Locksmith II" :P
- Ninja-Kun
- Apr 18 2011, 07:21:23 PM
I'm sorry for making this newbie question, but what game was originally "Caesar Captain"? It looks like a Sachen game, down to the music and everything. They might as well call it "Locksmith II" :P[/quote]It's James Bond Jr., based off the cartoon of the same name. :P
Thanks, Cheetahmen!
PS: I love your British accent. I watched your review of the Famicom Yarou carts on YT today :p
oh yeah, i think that 50 Games thing was made by Macro Winners, same as the 88 games joystick - most of the hacks from the 50 are on the 88 (but not Inclement Trip, so I still have no idea about that one). the Plug & Play seems to be by MW too, "Game Star" is one of their old aliases.. and the 30 in 1 looks identical to that, so that might be another one of theirs.
I'm also starting to think the 101 in 1 is MW's, I opened the Arcade Action 2 console the other day and it had a BS-something code on the PCB, which is the same code they use on all their other stuff. so theyre pretty damn prolific in the world of.. famiclones with terrible hacks on them, i guess.
- taizou
- Apr 18 2011, 07:48:02 PM
oh yeah, i think that 50 Games thing was made by Macro Winners, same as the 88 games joystick - most of the hacks from the 50 are on the 88 (but not Inclement Trip, so I still have no idea about that one). the Plug & Play seems to be by MW too, "Game Star" is one of their old aliases.. and the 30 in 1 looks identical to
that, so that might be another one of theirs.[/quote]From looking around on Google, I found this blog (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://blog.goo.ne.jp/tetsujinfx/e/5468782e2f7b0025cc902aab33821675&ei=CWStTZaeLoyr8APKpJnzAQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEcQ7gEwBjgK&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522inclement%2Btrip%2522%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26prmd%3Divns) which, as far as I can tell, says that it's a hack of Super Spy Hunter. (Or Battle Formula, if you prefer) Looking at the image, it looks just like stage 2 from that game.
came across this Chinese-English dictionary the other day:
http://www.lexiconer.com/ecresult.php (http://www.lexiconer.com/ecresult.php)
seems like it might have been used by the makers of the hacks on this thing. all their favourite obscure words like "aether", "hoodle", "benthal", "kavass" etc are in there, but the one that really confirms it for me is "gunfignt". the very same blatant misspelling used by the hack of Wild Gunman.
its even on the first page of google results for "Dejectile", which is the title of one version of Nice Code's Bomberman clone.
You guys, I know you'll hate me for this but here I go anyways. I recorded the hacked music from the James Bond Jr. hack, and I uploaded it to Megaupload:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HRDQDXP6 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HRDQDXP6)
Enjoy (or not :P )
Funny how about half the song is unchanged from the original. Then again, these Inventor hacks are the definition of lazy.
It's a pity that (aside from the music) the James Bond Jr game wasn't all that great to begin with.
Exactly. They didn't even changed the music from the other levels. However, I still wonder how that Code Name: Viper hack they planned would have turn out. It's funny how badly hacked these latter-generation games are.
And I agree with the music: it's awesome, but the game itself is frustrating and boring... But look how cute "Caesar" looks in my avatar :3
- Ninja-Kun
- May 29 2011, 09:07:10 PM
It's funny how badly hacked all of these games are.[/quote]Fixed. ;) Well, with the exception of Sea War 2000, at least.
Mind you, they did a hack of Tom & Jerry as well (called Bruce & Leo) and not much was changed from the original game. Jerry was replaced with the hat-wearing thing from Rescue Kuck. Also, I just realised that it happens to be Jerry himself with some twat's head stuck on.
OMG! Is there a ROM of that hack somewhere? :P
- Ninja-Kun
- May 29 2011, 10:03:46 PM
OMG! Is there a ROM of that hack somewhere? :P[/quote]Indeed there is, on Maxzhou88's web-drive thing:
http://maxzhou88.ys168.com/ (http://maxzhou88.ys168.com/)
Look under "04 NES" and you'll find it.
- taizou
- Apr 19 2011, 02:10:56 PM
came across this Chinese-English dictionary the other day:
http://www.lexiconer.com/ecresult.php (http://www.lexiconer.com/ecresult.php)
seems like it might have been used by the makers of the hacks on this thing. all their favourite obscure words like "aether", "hoodle", "benthal", "kavass" etc are in there, but the one that really confirms it for me is "gunfignt". the very same blatant misspelling used by the hack of Wild Gunman.
its even on the first page of google results for "Dejectile", which is the title of one version of Nice Code's Bomberman clone.[/quote]It could also be http://dict.cn/ (http://dict.cn/), which also came up in a search for "gunfignt".
I'm pretty sure both of them derived their dictionaries from Kingsoft's electronic dictionary, which is notoriously full of hilarious errors. One of my favorites is "mrvhsnidm" (which comes up on both dict.cn and lexiconer, further suggesting a common origin)-- which is what happens when someone tries to enter "mechanism" but has their left hand too far to the right.
Edit: Oh, yeah, it's definitely Kingsoft. From the company's own dictionary site: http://dict.en.iciba.com/gunfignt/ (http://dict.en.iciba.com/gunfignt/)
ah Kingsoft. i should have known. whenever some hilarious Chinese-English mistranslation crops up its nearly always Kingsoft's fault. like this (http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005195.html). I'm sure one of these days Nice Code will make a game about drying things and some poor distributor will get in a bit of trouble.
Just wondering, where does Maxzhou88 get these hacks from anyway? Other Famiclones that happen to contain them?
(BTW, I'd like to see him dump that 1000-in-1 PVP Station cart)
- Cheetahmen
- May 30 2011, 08:11:48 AM
Just wondering, where does Maxzhou88 get these hacks from anyway? Other Famiclones that happen to contain them?
(BTW, I'd like to see him dump that 1000-in-1 PVP Station cart)[/quote]I know that the "Super Fighters" Kunio-kun hack that he posted recently was from a pirate multicart (which he even included pictures of).
Edit: Gah, it just dawned on me... the PVP Station Light has got to be from the same manufacturer as the GB Station Light. Interesting that the former included pirated versions of legit games, while the latter was entirely Nice Code stuff... and the former's menu also uses Nice Code's fonts... hm.
I'm pretty sure Nanjing is behind that whole series - they're all on their site here (http://en.sznanjing.com.cn/Default.aspx?PN=products&TypeID=8130&ItemIndex=0).
one of the earliest was a OneStation lookalike called the "Digital Dragon system" with Nice Code games built in and a generic multicart bundled, but they seem to have abandoned the Nice Code stuff entirely now. They all take the same type of carts (same as the FC-3000/OneStation Elite I think - just miniaturised famicom carts) but I've never seen anywhere that actually sells additional carts separately since the FC-3000 itself went out of production.
there's also this one (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/nj-pocket-2-5-tft-lcd-portable-game-console-with-tv-out-and-built-in-games-3-x-aaa-65514), the "NJ Pocket" which kind of gives the game away. although that one's 16-bit and it doesn't have a cart slot.
Funny how early on they used "legal" (sort of) games so that they wouldn't get sued by the developers of the games, and for whatever reason decided to use Famicom games instead. Maybe they realised that Nice Code's games flat-out suck or they figured that they already ripped off other video game companies by porting their games to the Famicom. A bit odd that they never used Dragon Co's games on them if you ask me.
- taizou
- May 30 2011, 11:41:18 AM
I'm pretty sure Nanjing is behind that whole series - they're all on their site here (http://en.sznanjing.com.cn/Default.aspx?PN=products&TypeID=8130&ItemIndex=0).[/quote]Wow, I'd never even noticed that on their site! Shenzhen Nanjing was nothing if not prolific.
Splitting off the Nanjing discussion into a new thread (http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=8738333/1/), because this one's off topic enough already.
I managed to get the 3 balloons on the City Connection hack to pass the level, and see the result:
http://i.imgur.com/CaIrJ.png (http://i.imgur.com/CaIrJ.png)
Now the cars are some sort of beheaded armadillos and the scenario is a glitched Holland. Nice. And now I will stop commenting on this post, don't worry :P
I'm guessing they weren't counting on anyone passing the New York level then. BTW, what did the intermission screen look like?
I don't know, it doesn't shows the intermission with the girl when you warp to another level by catching the 3 balloons. =/
I managed to pass the first level without cheating and here it is: http://i.imgur.com/uu4CU.png (http://i.imgur.com/uu4CU.png)
I wouldn't be surprised of the glitches are caused not because of the shitty hack but because they used a bad dump of the game. The version of City Connection included on the Y2K 64-in-1 shows the same glitch even if the game is not hacked (aside of the removal of the copyright notice)
Apparently that intermission glitch is down to multicart makers omitting one of the CHR banks to save space. but yeah, that second level clearly wasn't meant to be seen.. hell if they didn't realise they were breaking the core gameplay mechanic, they probably didn't even realise the game has more than one level. X Racing (the Zippy Race hack)'s graphics are also similarly broken in the behind-view sections.
- taizou
- Jun 1 2011, 07:16:29 PM
Apparently that intermission glitch is down to multicart makers omitting one of the CHR banks to save space.[/quote]Not sure about that, TBH. Supervision's multicarts have both CHR banks and yet the graphics still glitch up. Looking through the ROM of this multicart though, it does look as though they did omit the other CHR bank. Van-1 (and presumably Scoring) has the same problem.
Happy Angel Legend looks like it stars mutant teletubbies! =O