What made you got interested in bootleg old-gen console games?

[The_YongGrand]

Hey there guys and girls,

I'm sure most of you are in the USA or probably Europe - I could guess that bootlegs there are even rarer.

How did you come into contact with this? From some episodes of AVGN and some other comedy channels/reviews, maybe you might have that NES cart with a very strange color.

I'm in SE Asia, so we don't see those tall grey cartridges. Believe me, we never seen ANY of these carts before. We have the Famiclones there, because it's all we got. Owning an SNES or a Genesis was out of the question at that time as we were not having the moolah yet.

The only console I got when I was a kid was a Micro-Genius one with a 20-in-1 multicart. It was in 1992.

And also, I could tell you that in 1995-1999 those stalls selling those carts are almost everywhere. These carts with different colors are adorned on the counter. Whatever-in-1, bootleg games, and some original copies of Mortal Kombat III were there. No Nintendo 64, 'cause people there are obsessed with PS1.

I was exposed to all these things that I've become very shocked to hear that there was an actual "original" Famicom cart or NES cart elsewhere. All my life me and my friends were having played those bootlegs on the console.

One of my friends played a lot of games. That including a mountain of those small Famicom carts. One of the games was a beat-em-up. I saw the fighters' names "Moon" and "Cliff". Dunno what was the game at all, I believe it's another bootleg too.

I'm sure you have some nice stories to share about them.

[fcgamer]

Nice story, thanks for sharing  Where are you from in SA Asia?

[TALUIGI]

Since, when i was 8 years old, i got a dynavision in xmas, i really liked, the RESCUE Kuck game, you played that something looks like a Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles, also they got alot of consoles that where announced at RedeTV on morning, i really liked collecting these games, when later, when internet was released on brazil, we could search for your favorite games, and emualators, so just after a research, i discovered that everything has a lie, dynacom is not official, is a semi-licensed company that makes clones of Mega drive, famicom, nes etc. in 2011 they made they last console, the Dynavision Cybergame, it's a console that runs NES,SNES,GB,GBC,GBA,MEGADRIVE,SEGA MASTER SYSTEM, and videos, photos. i really liked. after that i discovered about another company that makes the same thing that dynacom does, like Dendy.

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My favorite Game, Street Fighter II, My cousin says everytime, that Tectoy port is better than the dynavision one, because the graphics where poorly made.  :rolleyes:

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[The_YongGrand]

fcgamer

Mar 3 2015, 11:38:23 AM

Nice story, thanks for sharing  Where are you from in SA Asia?[/quote]

I'm from Malaysia. We don't have much of the Apple 2s, or even the IBMs because it's too expensive. Even in the 90s, all that people can afford is a PC or the Famiclone. My cousins have the Genesis, and the other cousin I knew had the Famicom-Disk-System and SNES, and watched them play those games for hours (and joining them too).

Around the late 90s, PS1 has surfaced, but Nintendo 64 was a very rare sight. I played the "Dragon Ball Z", "Crash Bandicoot" and the "odo-odo oddity" on the PS1 with my ma's friend's kid back in '97.

I don't have any pics of the 90s that showed those stores, too bad we were still using our beaten up Yashica SLR (digital cameras didn't exist here yet!). You could imagine this though: Warm, sweaty place, noisy rattling air-cond, Famicom carts of different colors were lined up, some console boxes decorated the front, a CRT TV, and finally, some more console boxes with keyboards and light gun masquerading to be a Windows 95 computer (those thing were the shit, I meant it!).

Singapore has started being modern on the late 90s. Those multi-cart or bootleg hastily packed PS1 CDs had their last-est moment at the late 1999 (that's my limited guess - if anyone from Singapore could confirm this!).Last last time I heard, they clamped down on those stuff faster than a speeding bullet.

TALUIGI

Mar 3 2015, 06:25:22 PM

Since, when i was 8 years old, i got a dynavision in xmas, i really liked, the RESCUE Kuck game, you played that something looks like a Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles, also they got alot of consoles that where announced at RedeTV on morning, i really liked collecting these games, when later, when internet was released on brazil, we could search for your favorite games, and emualators, so just after a research, i discovered that everything has a lie, dynacom is not official, is a semi-licensed company that makes clones of Mega drive, famicom, nes etc. in 2011 they made they last console, the Dynavision Cybergame, it's a console that runs NES,SNES,GB,GBC,GBA,MEGADRIVE,SEGA MASTER SYSTEM, and videos, photos. i really liked. after that i discovered about another company that makes the same thing that dynacom does, like Dendy.

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My favorite Game, Street Fighter II, My cousin says everytime, that Tectoy port is better than the dynavision one, because the graphics where poorly made.  :rolleyes:

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I had that same disappointment too, but in my country I was residing, there were no advertisments of video games and such. You are luckier in that sense that you still have the small freedom to get modern consoles back in the 90s.

Here in SE Asia, being all the stereotypical "Asian" models, we are supposed to grind on books, play the violin/piano and video games are "illegal" in households. :lol:

[TALUIGI]

The_YongGrand

Mar 3 2015, 08:45:41 PM

fcgamer

Mar 3 2015, 11:38:23 AM

Nice story, thanks for sharing  Where are you from in SA Asia?[/quote]

I'm from Malaysia. We don't have much of the Apple 2s, or even the IBMs because it's too expensive. Even in the 90s, all that people can afford is a PC or the Famiclone. My cousins have the Genesis, and the other cousin I knew had the Famicom-Disk-System and SNES, and watched them play those games for hours (and joining them too).

Around the late 90s, PS1 has surfaced, but Nintendo 64 was a very rare sight. I played the "Dragon Ball Z", "Crash Bandicoot" and the "odo-odo oddity" on the PS1 with my ma's friend's kid back in '97.

I don't have any pics of the 90s that showed those stores, too bad we were still using our beaten up Yashica SLR (digital cameras didn't exist here yet!). You could imagine this though: Warm, sweaty place, noisy rattling air-cond, Famicom carts of different colors were lined up, some console boxes decorated the front, a CRT TV, and finally, some more console boxes with keyboards and light gun masquerading to be a Windows 95 computer (those thing were the shit, I meant it!).

Singapore has started being modern on the late 90s. Those multi-cart or bootleg hastily packed PS1 CDs had their last-est moment at the late 1999. I couldn't confirm it, but last time I heard, they clamped down on those stuff faster than a speeding bullet.

TALUIGI

Mar 3 2015, 06:25:22 PM

Since, when i was 8 years old, i got a dynavision in xmas, i really liked, the RESCUE Kuck game, you played that something looks like a Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles, also they got alot of consoles that where announced at RedeTV on morning, i really liked collecting these games, when later, when internet was released on brazil, we could search for your favorite games, and emualators, so just after a research, i discovered that everything has a lie, dynacom is not official, is a semi-licensed company that makes clones of Mega drive, famicom, nes etc. in 2011 they made they last console, the Dynavision Cybergame, it's a console that runs NES,SNES,GB,GBC,GBA,MEGADRIVE,SEGA MASTER SYSTEM, and videos, photos. i really liked. after that i discovered about another company that makes the same thing that dynacom does, like Dendy.

Spoiler: click to toggle

This Model.    

My favorite Game, Street Fighter II, My cousin says everytime, that Tectoy port is better than the dynavision one, because the graphics where poorly made.  :rolleyes:

Spoiler: click to toggle

[/quote]

I had that same disappointment too, but in my country I was residing, there were no advertisments of video games and such. You are luckier in that sense that you still have the small freedom to get modern consoles back in the 90s.

Here in SE Asia, being all the stereotypical "Asian" models, we are supposed to grind on books, play the violin/piano and video games are "illegal" in households. :lol: [/quote]Yep, videogames are so overpriced here, because the govern considere them, has ''illegal games''  :shock:
Also, we brazilians only discovered the NES in 1997, when nintendo finally came, and brought SNES, NINTENDO 64 GAMEBOY, Etc.
And later came playstation, and xbox, and another modern console we got now.
But only in brazil, you can buy a playstation 4 for $4000.  :faint:
also got in a magazine.

Like, this is a shock  :faint:
we never have seen a console with 16-bits graphics, and sound. it's awesome!

[The_YongGrand]

TALUIGI

Mar 3 2015, 08:54:04 PM

Yep, videogames are so overpriced here, because the govern considere them, has ''illegal games''  :shock:
Also, we brazilians only discovered the NES in 1997, when nintendo finally came, and brought SNES, NINTENDO 64 GAMEBOY, Etc.
And later came playstation, and xbox, and another modern console we got now.
But only in brazil, you can buy a playstation 4 for $4000.  :faint: [/quote]I thought Brazil's very lenient about video games, since they have these carnivals in Rio de Janiero which feature scantily-clad women and a lot of beer. (That's what they show on TV!)  >

But I've been hearing that you guys have the Xbox360 more than the PS3, right?

[TALUIGI]

The_YongGrand

Mar 3 2015, 09:03:41 PM

TALUIGI

Mar 3 2015, 08:54:04 PM

Yep, videogames are so overpriced here, because the govern considere them, has ''illegal games''  :shock:
Also, we brazilians only discovered the NES in 1997, when nintendo finally came, and brought SNES, NINTENDO 64 GAMEBOY, Etc.
And later came playstation, and xbox, and another modern console we got now.
But only in brazil, you can buy a playstation 4 for $4000.  :faint: [/quote]I thought Brazil's very lenient about video games, since they have these carnivals in Rio de Janiero which feature scantily-clad women and a lot of beer. (That's what they show on TV!)  >

But I've been hearing that you guys have the Xbox360 more than the PS3, right? [/quote]Yeah, it's true  
I got a JTAG Xbox 360, and another Xbox 360 with LT 3.0 .
Also the games are so overpriced, $230 Each Xbox 360 games  :O
so we can hack this xbox and buy pirated copy's and you can just pay $5 each game.  cool:
and, also most of the things here is pirated. I was on a shopping and got a guy selling a PSP-Famiclone, and a Hacked PSP, with emulators and 20 PSP games.  

[The_YongGrand]

TALUIGI

Mar 3 2015, 09:09:11 PM

Yeah, it's true  
I got a JTAG Xbox 360, and another Xbox 360 with LT 3.0 .
Also the games are so overpriced, $230 Each Xbox 360 games  :O
so we can hack this xbox and buy pirated copy's and you can just pay $5 each game.  cool: [/quote]Here we do have those modified Xbox360 too. Mostly with the "Freestyle Dash" thing. I did purchase a cheap display model from a store and I could play a bit if I'm free.

Xbox1 and PS4 games are damn expensive here too. I had to wait until they have these in used prices.

[TALUIGI]

The_YongGrand

Mar 3 2015, 09:14:15 PM

TALUIGI

Mar 3 2015, 09:09:11 PM

Yeah, it's true  
I got a JTAG Xbox 360, and another Xbox 360 with LT 3.0 .
Also the games are so overpriced, $230 Each Xbox 360 games  :O
so we can hack this xbox and buy pirated copy's and you can just pay $5 each game.  cool: [/quote]Here we do have those modified Xbox360 too. Mostly with the "Freestyle Dash" thing. I did purchase a cheap display model from a store and I could play a bit if I'm free.

Xbox1 and PS4 games are damn expensive here too. I had to wait until they have these in used prices. [/quote]I download GoodNES, and NONGoodnes, and i play it in my XBOX, Nintendo 64 Emulators are very good to play on XBOX 360.

[The_YongGrand]

The JTAG/RGH-ed games are sometimes a pain to work with especially with the uh, "Title Updates". Sometimes my friends have to mess around with the files just to get the DLC working.

In other story, I read about someone who bought a cheap handheld, tore out the ROM, dump it, modify the ROM and glue it back into the system: OneStation ROM dumping.

[TALUIGI]

Also, i am trying to find ROMS, to the dynavision multicarts, but still today i haven't founded yet. looks like this catridges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuiJIMfkPZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMHgB5jYxxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z77ag8y_5Fk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15_4LbJ4im8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EBFYViz5Yk

[/FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze5aNWMOPDk

[taizou]

The_YongGrand

Mar 3 2015, 11:31:09 AM

One of my friends played a lot of games. That including a mountain of those small Famicom carts. One of the games was a beat-em-up. I saw the fighters' names "Moon" and "Cliff". Dunno what was the game at all, I believe it's another bootleg too.[/quote]Sounds like Street Fighter IV - http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Street_Fighter_IV

oh and to answer your question - I'm in the UK and bootleg stuff has never really been mainstream here, I think my first encounter was when I was about 9 or so and one of my classmates brought in a Gameboy multicart they bought on holiday - at the time I totally believed Nintendo's line about unlicensed products and how they can damage your system and whatnot, so I was a little wary of it

occasionally game magazines ran a feature on them, eg this one, but I only really became interested in them when I got internet access around 1998 or so and found out a little more about the scale of what was out there - I found a site called the Nintendo Information Repository that had 100s of pictures of random pirate carts (mostly stuff I'd probably consider boring/generic today) and it totally fascinated me. Around the same time I discovered NES emulation and downloaded Somari amongst more official stuff (including Street Fighter 2010, because I'd heard of bootleg Street Fighter II ports existing and assumed that would be one of them..)

[Azathoth]

The_YongGrand

Mar 3 2015, 08:45:41 PM

Those multi-cart or bootleg hastily packed PS1 CDs had their last-est moment at the late 1999 (that's my limited guess - if anyone from Singapore could confirm this!).[/quote]That time seems about right. I used to buy lots of PS1 silvers from Malaysia and Singapore around 96/97 and by 99 they had dropped off a lot. Some of it was legal, others because CD-R's became much cheaper for people to buy. My first CD burner I bought in 97 cost $500 USD and blank discs were $3-5 USD each so it was obviously much cheaper just to buy PS1 bootlegs than copy your own.

Later the PS2 silvers sold a lot for the same reason, nobody could afford a DVD writer at the time. Once they dropped in price and broadband internet took off that basically killed factory PS2 (and DVD) pirating.

I always thought it was funny that pressed disc pirates were not killed by software security measures or government/legal things, but by end users being too cheap to even pay $2 USD for their copied product. When given the choice to pay $50, $5, or $0 for a game/movie people tend to choose $0

[Awesome Panda]

I remember a couple of my mates at school used to own some Pokémon bootlegs, but I didn't get into them proper until I stumbled on a bunch of Sonic bootlegs while looking up info on the beta versions of the old school legit games. (I was a bigger fan of the series back in 2006 than I am now, you can blame Sonic 06 for that one)

I remember playing Somari out of interest, immediately regretting it because it sucks, and then having a bile fascination for bootlegs until I ended up playing some that were actually decent and getting a revised opinion on them as a whole. Then once I started getting my own money I decided I wanted to get some of them so I can play them off my TV and have a more authentic experience.

Actually, I might have had a chipped PS1 back in the day, but I don't remember using that for anything other than cheat devices.

[fcgamer]

When I was in high school, I discovered NES World and tsr's NES Archives, among other pages, and thus became entangled in the weird and wacky world of bootleg games.  I collected NES games for around 10 years, then quit and sold everything off, as college moved into my life and gaming moved out.

When I moved a few years back, I ended up having my interest creep back into me.  I had gone to a shop and found a couple old Gowin GB B/W games for sale, and passed them up...I then went home and saw what they really were, and went back and grabbed them.  From that point, I was hooked.