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Famicom/NES / Re: Project Plug and play update
« on: December 31, 2023, 08:44:06 AM »
https://unlicensed.games/libg/index.php?entry=Project-Plug-and-Play:-End-of-year-Housecleaning!

Any remaining corrections will have to wait until the next update, whenever that will be. (I hope it will be when the Hi-Res versions of the Cube Tech hacks are dumped! :) )
excellent, thank you! :D

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Famicom/NES / Re: Project Plug and play update
« on: December 28, 2023, 07:00:57 AM »
Next round. I will not be releasing until New Year's Eve, so take your time coming up with even more ideas.
-Bear Love Penguin should be in the Cube Tech Hacks folder (probably)
-Cube Tech's hack of Dough Boy (Gear Master) should also be in the Cube Tech Hacks folder
-Dora Bros should be moved to the Homebrew Hacks folder
-Knok Knok from the Inventor Hacks folder is also one that isn't mentioned on BGW's Inventor page, not a real Inventor hack maybe?
-The current dump of Monster (Son Son hack) in the Project PNP romset lacks the Winners copyright

other stuff thats not in the romset:
!Other/Hacks:
-Crash (The Jungle Book hack)
-The Legend of Khresna (The Legend of Prince Valiant hack)

Cube Tech/Hacks:
-would their minor hacks of Baltron, Dada, Tennis, Bounce, Spar, Ladangel and Lunar Ball from the DEX multicart also count as an inclusion? their hack of Bird Week is in the romset and the ones i mentioned are on Cube Tech's BGW page as well.

Funtime:
-Pokemon 2000 (charizard version)

Nice Code:
-Boxes (variation of Boxes World [VT03] from the Sudoku Plug & Play TV Game + 6 Intelligent Games)
-Radish Farm (variation of Radish Field [VT03] from the Sudoku Plug & Play TV Game + 6 Intelligent Games)
-IQ Champion (D-CAT8 100-in-1 variant)

Waixing:
-Lawn Mower (variation of Lawn Purge [VT03] from the Sudoku Plug & Play TV Game + 6 Intelligent Games)

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Famicom/NES / Re: Project Plug and play update
« on: December 25, 2023, 12:50:10 PM »
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-Body Slam! Super Pro Wrestling (Nice Code) seems to run a bit glitchy
More so than on real hardware?
i've seen a vid of the real thing in action and im pretty sure this is not meant to happen

btw, the patched Night Stalker rom was placed on the Nice Code folder

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Famicom/NES / Re: Project Plug and play update
« on: December 25, 2023, 10:50:49 AM »
Attached is the current changelog. Anything else?
theres a few that i added to my personal copy of the .txt file, i didnt bother to edit the message and put the updated one on there so im gonna put these here:
Nice Code:
-Space Shuttle (variation of Aether Cruiser. sourced from DreamGear Fan's extracts.)
-Hot Racing (variation of Metro Mania. original version with cars, the one on the project PNP set is the motorcycle version. sourced from DreamGear Fan's extracts.)
-Jump-Jump (version without music. found on the MyArcade 220-in-1)
-Dringle (version with alternate music from the Hengsheng 36-in-1 black pad)
-Dice Legend (version with music from the Hengsheng 36-in-1 black pad)

i would mention Defend Homestead but that is on a GBA multicart and i'm not sure if there has ever been a extract of that game alone.

Dragon:
-Little Black Mask (original version that starts on level 1, found in the Lexibook Power Cyber Arcade JL3000)

Cube Tech:
-Winter Cup (hack of Ice Hockey. the version on the Joystick88 is 2 player while the project pnp extract is 1 player)

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the version of Space Shuttle Exploration on the MyArcade 220-in-1 seems to have some minor differences to it as well.
Yes, lack of two-player mode. Not included.
the only thing i've noticed in that Space Shuttle Exploration variant aside from the removal of 2 player mode was the plane sprites. i initially had my doubts that it was gonna be added to the set anyway so i dont mind.

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Table Soccer's freeze is either an original game bug or an emulation problem, not a ROM set issue.
emulation problem seems right. i doubt that its an bug with the game since theres a playthrough of it online.

only 2 other things i've noticed:
-Night Stalker (Unknown Developer's version) does not read inputs
-Body Slam! Super Pro Wrestling (Nice Code) seems to run a bit glitchy

and just a question. what is ChantiCleers from the Inventor Hacks folder and what is its origin? that game isn't mentioned on Inventor's page in BGW

i also wanna question the homebrew "Flying Bomb" being moved to the Homebrew folder. when i said homebrew, i meant that its another kelvin donna hack passing off as a real existing bootleg hack. pretty sure the kelvin donna version of Flying Bomber wasn't included on a plug n play.

thats pretty much it. got nothing else to point out

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Famicom/NES / Re: Project Plug and play update
« on: December 24, 2023, 10:08:43 AM »
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-and the rest of the feedback would just be "certain game is not on this set" so im not gonna bother
Please bother to enumerate all games that you have not yet mentioned that should be included, or removed, so the next version can represent the "current state of knowledge". Thank you.
i wrote this txt file of stuff that wasnt included in the update, its not super complete but it will do.

also i'm very glad to see the corrections being applied, gonna edit the last post to put a few more things i forgot to mention which should be the last for now but thank you

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Famicom/NES / Re: Project Plug and play update
« on: December 24, 2023, 05:42:32 AM »
i forgot to attach the picture, this is the ogreish flower rom thats glitchy.

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Famicom/NES / Re: Project Plug and play update
« on: December 24, 2023, 05:41:33 AM »
Obviously, I kept things left to do for future updates. ;) As for the claim about being "rushed", this sentence:
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i thought we all knew this but apparently not
says it all: other people don't live inside your head, so if you don't share your knowledge, don't complain that it is not incorporated.

As for homebrew hacks, the question to eliminate them from the existing corpus is an ongoing project. Some responses to specific points:
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not a wise idea to add Battle Station (Cube Tech) which is broken. at least mark it with a (b) or something
No. This is not the only Cube Tech hack that is glitchy, and I am not going to go out of my way to mark them all.
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-so nice of you to include a rom of the Intellivision X2 but not extract the new stuff (like Buzz Bombers and Pinball for example). was this update rushed?
All of the new stuff from that PnP is included, except for Buzz Bombers, but including Pinball. I have no idea why you cannot find these extracts. So if anything, your comment is "rushed", and badly so.
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-Luck Ball (Inventor, VT03) works now and i'm thankful for that, but what happened to the music? pretty sure it was meant to have different music compared to the original NES Pinball.
The hack does not clear memory properly at start-up, so the music depends on what your emulator is configured to initialize RAM with.
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-Combat Cars (Cube Tech) displays an wrong palette. It used to in the old version of the romset and still does on the updated one.
That is an emulation problem, not a ROM set problem; it occurs when playing the game from the full 128 MiB PnP ROMs as well.
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-For some reason when you pause in Scramble (Best Long Electron's version) the background flickers?
Cannot reproduce.

The changes regarding Beetle/Juoki/Nanjing Tennis will be made in the next version.

I do accept comments and corrections, but as it should be obvious, don't accuse others of "rushing" things when you yourself are not impeccable.
Thanks for the response, yes i might've rushed the comment while writing it and i apologize. I did not realize that the Unknown Developer's version of Intellivison Pinball (alongside the other few Intellivision X2 games) were actually extracted, i didn't check properly. Still though, Buzz Bombers not being extracted still applies.

I did check the romset a bit more throughly and i found out more things:
-One of the "duplicates" of Aero Gyrodine (the one with a 2023 date) is a homebrew hack.
-The Ogreish Flower rom (that is outside of the Ogreish Flower folder oddly enough) is a glitchy rom (picture attached). Also one of the variants is named "Canyon Bomber", correct me if im wrong but is it meant to have that name?
-World War II (1942) which is known to be a Inventor hack is in the Homebrew folder
-The VT369 version of Fish Quiz used to be glitchy on the old romset and still is on the updated one. would that be emulation issues?

edit: the other stuff i forgot to mention
-Air Launch should probably be in the Cube Tech Hacks folder
-Hangman is in the Card Games section of the Nice Code folder which is a bit odd
-Magic Block (Cube Tech's hack of Hexa) shares the same folder as the other Magic Block which is a different game
-"Flying Bomb" in the Cube Tech hacks folder is once again a homebrew hack. (picture attached for comparison)
-the 2 versions of Craps on the Nice Code Card Games folder share the same name with each other
-the waixing copyrighted version of Archer has the same filename as the Burbles hack
-Coin Tetris has a glitchy hi-score on the title screen (all of the 0s are replaced with a glitchy tile)
-Waixing's version of Dringle has a glitchy title screen (copyright is shown in half)
-Table Soccer (VT03) has some issues: When you win a match the game freezes. other minor issues are just sound related.

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Famicom/NES / Re: Project Plug and play update
« on: December 24, 2023, 04:26:43 AM »
You shall face critical punishment if you do not download this official update. ;)
-Lyko 1 and 2 are homebrew hacks and not real Inventor hacks (i thought we all knew this but apparently not)
-As an addendum to the point above: "Perch", "Soccer Cup Final (FC)" and "Maze Ball" on the Mars Production folder are not real bootleg stuff either
-not a wise idea to add Battle Station (Cube Tech) which is broken. at least mark it with a (b) or something
-Beetle (in the Waixing Hacks section) belongs in the Nice Code Software folder as its based on Pulveration, Down Deep should've been in the Inventor folder and Dungeon Escape in the Nice Code folder.
-so nice of you to include a rom of the Intellivision X2 but not extract the new stuff (like Buzz Bombers and Pinball for example). was this update rushed?
-Luck Ball (Inventor, VT03) works now and i'm thankful for that, but what happened to the music? pretty sure it was meant to have different music compared to the original NES Pinball.
-Nanjing's Tennis game has been missing since the last couple of Project PnP versions and it's still not on here
-For some reason one of the versions of Tennis Ball is placed in the Ping Pong folder instead of the Tennis Ball one
-The Juoki (sic) and Juuouki folders in the Inventor section are duplicates of Super Man, also their hack of Final Mission (FU-3 Firebolt) is on a folder wrongly labeled as "Kage"
-Combat Cars (Cube Tech) displays an wrong palette. It used to in the old version of the romset and still does on the updated one.
-For some reason when you pause in Scramble (Best Long Electron's version) the background flickers?
-and the rest of the feedback would just be "certain game is not on this set" so im not gonna bother

While i appreciate the new additions and all, this entire Project PnP update just feels rushed tbh. accidental inclusion of fanmade hacks, recently dumped stuff that did not show up (ex. the original Bomberman game by Nice Code alongside some other variations of their games, some Cube Tech hacks did not make it as well [like Flying Bomber, Maze Ball, etc.] and even stuff that was dumped a long long time ago that did not show up for some odd reason [Nanjing's Tennis like i mentioned]), and roms that still do not function properly on the new update (Combat Cars). not to mention the odd misplacements and the one duplicate as well.

I apologize if i seemed rude, its just that this update didn't cut it.

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2000-present / Re: "Pikachu5" (Pikachu Wonder Rabbit?)
« on: September 12, 2022, 06:35:00 PM »
speaking of nice code, game 248 on the ETC section that claims to be bomberman 2 is actually a rare version of their bomberman clone. has 3 selectable characters, a map screen and bossfights (in which you fight the same boss 3 times)

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