- TALUIGI
- Apr 29 2015, 12:30:32 PM
What's the difference of PAL and NTSC? [/quote]http://www.diffen.com/difference/NTSC_vs_PAL (http://www.diffen.com/difference/NTSC_vs_PAL) There you go.- Title: FCEUX with PAL Famiclone Mode Released
Post by: Koh1fds on April 29, 2015, 07:14:55 PM- http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/Clock_rate (http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/Clock_rate)
The main difference is the FPS (vertical scan rate in the table). NTSC consoles aims at 60 FPS. PAL - 50. When Nintendo launches NES in Europe they change CPU, PPU clock rate to manage necessary 50 fps for PAL TV's. So if you put cartridge with NTSC game into PAL console - game will run at ~20% slower. But slowdown not only one problem. Some games has mappers (chips inside cartridges) that can work properly only on specific hardware. If you change CPU / PPU clock rate those games can crash or shown graphical glitches. Another problem that some sound channels have different pitch on PAL NES. Thus, to release their game in Europe - the developers had to optimize it for the European NES.
But when the Chinese or Taiwanese pirates developed their consoles, they did not clone the European NES. They made their consoles so that they can run NTSC games without graphic glitches, with the right sound pitch and at 50 fps.
I tried to explain as clearly as possible. Bad English- Title: FCEUX with PAL Famiclone Mode Released
Post by: TALUIGI on April 29, 2015, 07:31:37 PM- Hmmmm, So Dynavision is PAL? Because I Played Before, and compared the difference of the emulator and the console, but they looks like slower, So.
All this Time, I was thinking that it was NTSC, But It's not? O.o
NTSC = NORMAL.
PAL = LITTLE SLOWER.
Like Nationality, Like in this map.
(http://static.diffen.com/uploadz/thumb/f/ff/PAL-NTSC.svg/610px-PAL-NTSC.svg.png)- Title: FCEUX with PAL Famiclone Mode Released
Post by: Koh1fds on April 29, 2015, 07:55:11 PM
- TALUIGI
- Apr 29 2015, 07:31:37 PM
NTSC = NORMAL.
PAL = LITTLE SLOWER.
[/quote]It depends not only on the console, but also on the game.
US or JP game in NTSC console = NORMAL speed
US or JP game in PAL Famiclone console = SLOWER speed, but without crashes and with proper sound pitch
US or JP game in European PAL NES = SLOWER speed with "bad" sound pitch and possible crashes / graphical issues
Properly Optimized European game in European PAL NES = NORMAL speed
Properly Optimized European game in NTSC console = FASTER speed with "bad" sound pitch and possible crashes / graphical issues
Properly Optimized European game in PAL Famiclone console = NORMAL speed with "bad" sound pitch and possible crashes / graphical issues
And so when the Chinese developed their pirate games - i think they aiming at their PAL Famiclones. But when you run pirated games on an emulator, it works as at NTSC console. Therefore, for example, when you hear the music on the emulator - you hear it differently than it was planning by pirates.- Title: FCEUX with PAL Famiclone Mode Released
Post by: taizou on April 30, 2015, 05:33:12 PM- oh this is cool! it always kinda bugged me that neither NTSC nor PAL NES emulation really matched PAL Famiclones .. now we can play Chinese games (more or less) like they were intended :D
- Title: FCEUX with PAL Famiclone Mode Released
Post by: Koh1fds on April 30, 2015, 06:11:05 PM
- taizou
- Apr 30 2015, 05:33:12 PM
now we can play Chinese games (more or less) like they were intended :D[/quote]I feel sarcasm in your words. Because there is a lot of emulators that supports PAL Famiclone Mode xD
But FCEUX supports a lot of pirate Games, it's great for recording video, it have a lot of useful tools. It's definitely most handy emulator. It's great that FCEUX finally supports PAL Famiclone Mode.- Title: FCEUX with PAL Famiclone Mode Released
Post by: taizou on April 30, 2015, 08:23:56 PM- oh nah, no sarcasm intended, I was referring to FCEUX in particular - it's my own favoured NES emulator so it's genuinely nice to see it supporting this feature.