Pirate Discussion => Mega Drive/Genesis => Topic started by: Taco on July 19, 2012, 03:21:19 AM
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Taco on July 19, 2012, 03:21:19 AM
Hey there,
If this is in the wrong area, I'm very sorry, I'm brand new. Another member suggested I sign up to ask about the game as you all would be the experts on pirates and their tech specs.
I signed up because a friend of mine picked up a rare pirate. It's SMW64, and to our understanding there's no dump out there due to mirroring or what not. We're looking to dump it and make it public if possible. We're going to attempt a dump and then share the file for analysis. If anyone is interested in it please let me know, we will be using a retrode and expect it do dump incorrectly. Hopefully someone can figure out why based on that dump.
I'm solid with soldering and have an eprom programmer / reader and could wire something up with help. If anyone can help, please PM me.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Azathoth on July 19, 2012, 03:32:23 AM
SMW64 uses globtops so you can forget about desoldering the chips. In this case your options are to dump using a USB device like the Retrode, a regular copier, or a SCD transfer cable.
SMW64 has a unique booting method that won't let you use the SCD cable since there's no way to trigger the CD to load and bypass the cart loading. It also has protection where it hides itself from copiers so they won't detect the cartridge is inserted.
I don't own a Retrode personally but I was told it pulls header info from an on/offline database to interface with the emulator. (That may be a completely incorrect statement.) If that's the case it may not even recognize the cartridge due to it's protection schemes and non-standard header information.
If you can manage to dump the ROM, regardless of it being an outlandish inflated size, a working image can be made of it. Almost all MD games use a somewhat similar copy protection scheme and I don't see SMW64 being any different. I personally think it was just the last of it's breed from that set of developers; after that you really didn't see anything beyond crappy title screen hacks and such, and none of them bothered with any type of copy protection.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Barver on July 19, 2012, 03:42:08 AM
Are you the guy who won the recent eBay auction?
I know a guy who I just directed here from the Sonic Retro community. They also had a friend that dumped the ROM with a retrode but only managed to dump half of it before selling it off. I'm sure he'll tell you more(his name is Andlabs), but here's a copy paste of what is known, if it makes any sense to you.
Quote:
Here's what we know. The custom hardware is mapped to the $6xxxxx region. The custom hardware either does mirroring, mirroring/decryption, or access from a separate ROM. There's some large holes in the Retrode dump filled with either $00s or $FFs (alternating every 8KB); it may be this. These store GEMS (seriously), the level tiles, the level tilemaps, and the level layouts (the last three of which are all loaded from VRAM). In addition, the hardware provides some registers. Three of these registers are used to calculate the sizes of tilemaps, specifically (byte read from $660001) = (byte written to $600003) ^ f(byte written to $640001, 1) where ^ is xor and f() is either shift byte left or rotate byte left (we're not sure which) and that this possibly only holds true if byte $DE is written to byte $670001.
The game steals the Sega standard init code so it does follow TMSS even though the cart hardware seems to bypass it. There's also this initailization function:
and an example of the mirroring/decryption(?), to get to the Z80 sound driver, which is GEMS:
ROM:00008326 ; =============== S U B R O U T I N E ======================================= ROM:00008326 ROM:00008326 ROM:00008326 sub_8326: ; CODE XREF: LoadGEMS+20p ROM:00008326 move.w #$100,($A11100).l ROM:0000832E move.w #$100,($A11200).l ROM:00008336 ROM:00008336 loc_8336: ; CODE XREF: sub_8326+1Cj ROM:00008336 move.b (a0)+,d1 ROM:00008338 ROM:00008338 loc_8338: ; CODE XREF: sub_8326+16j ROM:00008338 move.b d1,(a1) ROM:0000833A cmp.b (a1),d1 ROM:0000833C bne.s loc_8338 ROM:0000833E addq.w #1,a1 ROM:00008340 subq.w #1,d0 ROM:00008342 bne.s loc_8336 ROM:00008344 rts ROM:00008344 ; End of function sub_8326 ROM:00008344 ROM:00008346 ROM:00008346 ; =============== S U B R O U T I N E ======================================= ROM:00008346 ROM:00008346 ROM:00008346 sub_8346: ; CODE XREF: LoadGEMS+24p ROM:00008346 move.w #0,($A11200).l ROM:0000834E move.w #0,($A11100).l ROM:00008356 move.w #$100,($A11200).l ROM:0000835E rts ROM:0000835E ; End of function sub_8346 ROM:0000835E ROM:00008360 ROM:00008360 ; =============== S U B R O U T I N E ======================================= ROM:00008360 ROM:00008360 ROM:00008360 LoadGEMS: ; CODE XREF: sub_38E+8Cp ROM:00008360 move.b #7,($600001).l ROM:00008368 move.b #$D3,($600003).l ROM:00008370 movea.l #$614DBC,a0 ROM:00008376 lea ($A00000).l,a1 ROM:0000837C move.w #$2000,d0 ROM:00008380 bsr.w sub_8326 ROM:00008384 bsr.w sub_8346 ROM:00008388 rts ROM:00008388 ; End of function LoadGEMS
The title theme and first stage theme don't use GEMS but rather a custom sound playback system that runs off VInt; everything else does (there are three tracks for this custom playback system but I'm mostly certain the third one just silences playback) [/quote]
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: andlabs on July 23, 2012, 09:04:34 PM
Hi I'm one of the two in Barver's' quote, the other being Sik =P
Basically, three things are missing from the Retrode dump the two of us worked on:
the level layouts
the level art
the Z80 code (GEMS)
32KB(?) blocks of 0s/$FFs (alternating, with a few differeing bytes in random places) remain in the spaces I think are left over. The final ROM is 512KB, and the Retrode produced a copy of the ROM from the 512KB-1MB point, and then filled the rest of the 4MB with $FF.
Once found, the level layouts and art are loaded into VRAM and accessed from there.
How configurable is Retrode's dumping parameters? If that won't work, there's also this, from LocalH:
Quote:
Might I suggest aping Chris Covell's NES dumping method, writing a ROM that would load some basic tiles into VRAM for on-screen display, loading the actual dumping code into RAM, spinning on a pad-polling loop in RAM, cart-swapping, then press Start (or whatever) and have the RAM code dump the ROM using what information is known about the mapping hardware, either sending it through the SCD transfer cable or sending it through the audio output via KCS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_standard) (both slow methods but reliable). [/quote]
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Barver on September 12, 2012, 04:24:25 AM
I'm assuming this ends up like a lot of things where the thrill of sharing something you have dies off immediately and they just disappear, satisfied enough that at least they have it? :x
Pessimistic way of wording it, but it happens all too often and makes me a sad panda :(
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Robyn on September 12, 2012, 11:48:54 AM
Barver
Sep 12 2012, 04:24:25 AM
but it happens all too often and makes me a sad panda :([/quote]Accidental South Park quote. :P And you're a panda?! :o
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Ray of Lightning on September 12, 2012, 03:01:40 PM
We're bootleg enthusatics, Rob. We're ALL got a bit of the Panda in us. :pandaaway:
But yes, anyways, something a bit more on topic, I know how you kinda feel, Barver. I can't say I totally understand this mindset which I've been told exists where people get the game, dump the game and then hoard it to themselves or try to sell the ROM off. It just seems...well...totally against the spirit of this thing.
And it makes me a s/maaaaad panda. :pandamad:
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Pepper-98 on September 12, 2012, 05:21:50 PM
Ray of Lightning
Sep 12 2012, 03:01:40 PM
But yes, anyways, something a bit more on topic, I know how you kinda feel, Barver. I can't say I totally understand this mindset which I've been told exists where people get the game, dump the game and then hoard it to themselves or try to sell the ROM off. It just seems...well...totally against the spirit of this thing.
And it makes me a s/maaaaad panda. :pandamad: [/quote]I have to agree on that. It kinda ruins the whole point of dumping the game in the first place, and it does bother me because there's seriously no real reason for it other than to be a dick. I've made it a personal rule that if I were to actually dump or send out something to be dumped that it won't be hoarded or require payment to release it. Now finding people who can dump stuff...That's a whole different story.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Linkrulezall on September 12, 2012, 10:22:53 PM
Step 1 - Point at the globtops and tell them that you're very angry with them (be sure to put a lot of feeling into it) Step 2 - Using your right hand, shake your fist at the cartridge Step 3 - If steps 1 and 2 don't work, try scaring it Step 4 - Jam a piece of green bubble gum onto 6 of the pins Step 5 - Using a chainsaw and pistol, destroy the globtops Step 6 - Tell the board that you really, really love it in a Stephen Hawking voice Step 7 - Burn cartridge out of frustration Step 8 - Find and order another cartridge Step 9 - Wait 4-6 weeks Step 10 - Mix together an egg, some ice cream, and 1 tablespoon of chocolate syrup Step 11 - Rub this mixture over the pins using a dill pickle or marshmallow hamburger Step 12 - Try to dump again Step 13 - Fail Step 14 - Scream Step 16 - Cry Step 17 - Sulk Step 18 - Go back to step 1
WARNING: DON'T ATTEMPT ANYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED!
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Azathoth on September 12, 2012, 11:57:58 PM
On a lighter note, I'm working with another guy to see if we can get an alternate dump using some different hardware that might yield some results. He managed to get all 3 SFT releases working, so I have some faith in it.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Barver on September 13, 2012, 01:46:26 AM
I'm assuming this talk of paying for ROMs is in reference to prototypes. I'm afraid I have to disagree as I completely understand why those things require cash. Their expensive nature makes it a bit difficult to feel like giving their data away for nothing in return after what usually is lots of effort to even raise the funds to afford it yourself in the first place. And lets not also forget the effort in even building the contacts and tracking them down. I'm not sure what "the whole point of dumping" is being defined as, but the way I see it, whatever anyone does with something they bought is essentially their business and not anyone else's, as cold as that sounds. You can say it breaks the "spirit", but the fact is people have just gotten a little too use to getting everything for free when it comes to ROMs when it's never been a defined fact anywhere in life that something someone paid for should be released for free just because it's video game data. Anything that is released for free we should definitely be thankful for, but if I spent hundreds or even over a thousand dollars on a prototype, I definitely would want some compensation for the time, effort and money that went into such an expensive purchase if I was being expected to just hand it out.
And keeping in mind I've had my stuff dumped for free, I'm not a complete shrewd when it comes to this :) In my opinion the real problems arise if someone that bought a prototype was expecting people to donate the full amount they paid back in order for the release of the ROM. Now that I would see as a total dick move, since that would make it so they essentially got that game for free, which is in no way fair. I don't think there's been any examples of that out there though, or at least any owners that publicly admit so.
Me personally, if I were releasing a prototype that cost me a lot of money, I'd expect an even half of what I originally paid minus a few odd dollars, just to justify me being the one that keeps the cartridge/cd/whatever while everyone else has done their part in helping get it preserved on the internet. It seems fair enough, but of course not everyone has the same opinions.
Just how I see it. I might mention I'm getting a Retrode myself soon for a little "preservation" btw cool:
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Ray of Lightning on September 13, 2012, 02:36:54 AM
Linkrulezall
Sep 12 2012, 10:22:53 PM
WARNING: DON'T ATTEMPT ANYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED![/quote]Awwh. What a shame. I was going to print it off and put it on my wall as ROM dumping tips. :D
...In fact, I'm STILL going to do that. >;) Anyways, back on topic once again, eh?
This is a bit of a tricky post for me to make in all honesty, Barver, because I admit I might be suffering from a full-on bout of 'well meaning naivety'. There might very well be good reasons for people asking for all that money, though admittedly I was more talking about pirate ROMs then prototypes. I mean, atop of the reasons you described, they might need to feed themselves, pay for rent, or cover another one of life's many expenses. >_<
But I dunno, it's for the very same reasons, that I'd RELEASE a ROM for free. Video games, let's admit it, are damn expensive these days. I mean, y'can buy the actual cartridges and the consoles but that's expensive too. Till you can afford those things yourself, I'll be damned if I keep a rare game from you. Emulators and ROMs allow us to test a game out before we buy, to entertain us when we've no money to spare on entertainment and, for me, to introduce you to things you never thought existed. If I were to ask for money, it'd be a donation box and that'd be that. ;)
I suppose that's all I have to say as I pretty much agree with everything else you say, man, though I do have a few things to finish up with:
1. Yes, I can agree people generally don't give ROMs the appreciation they deserve. Especially when they can't be arsed to do try a simple Google search before asking if we could just send them the ROM. :facepalm: 2. As for preservation, well, I suppose I myself believe a ROM can be better preserved if it's shared out among many resources rather then just being stored in my hard drive or cloud storage. :\
So yep, that's all I can say about the subject. Feel free to disagree of course, as you said, we're free to have our own opinions. :thumb: But I must say, it's been nice to have the opportunity to stretch my debating muscles there. :P
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Barver on September 13, 2012, 02:59:29 AM
Ah, you were thinking of ROMs of pirates? Can't say I can recall a single pirate release that's ever been distributed only after the dumper got money. It's a prototype-only thing, as far as I know. And with how cheap pirates generally are, it'd be a bit pointless if anyone did do that unless they were inflating the price because they think they're the only ones that can obtain it.
And I agree about preservation, I never said I'd keep anything to myself =p Just that if it were a very expensive item I also wouldn't want to outright give it away for free after all the money and trouble it took to get it. This applies most to prototypes as their one-of-a-kind items, as opposed to all other games out there where anyone can obtain a copy for cheap enough.
Anyway, my debating muscles suck =p On the topic of dumping pirates, besides Mario World 64 I have a bunch of undumped GBC and a couple GBA games I'd dump for free if anyone knew how to actually get the damned things dumped properly :) I'll have to try dumping my Mario World 64 with my Retrode whenever I get it, though it will be a bit. Obviously this person bit the dust and won't be seen again..
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Ray of Lightning on September 13, 2012, 04:44:40 AM
Hmm, well, I'll have to check up with the guy who told me that kinda stuff goes on. It was brought up when I mentioned I was going to try and dump some ROMs myself. Lol, I was kinda told to keep the ROMs to myself to keep the price of the pirates high. Urm, no. I want the damn things to be cheap as chips for people to enjoy so I'll dump away, thankyouverymuchgoodsir. :dance:
But yes, as protos go, I agree with you. Hell, I praticially squeed when I eventually got a chance to play the Sonic 2 Betas and that, I believe, wasn't anywhere near cheap at all.
Anyways, to wrap up this little discussion, all I can say is good luck with dumping that pirate! I think we'd all like to play that one. I know I sure would. :D
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Pepper-98 on September 13, 2012, 07:57:52 AM
I was just referring to pirate stuff before, but I see Barver's side of the arguement as well. Also, I'm crossing my fingers that Azathoth will have some better luck with dumping the game this time. It'd be nice to play beyond that horrible second level...
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: taizou on September 13, 2012, 08:30:25 AM
Barver
Sep 13 2012, 02:59:29 AM
Ah, you were thinking of ROMs of pirates? Can't say I can recall a single pirate release that's ever been distributed only after the dumper got money. It's a prototype-only thing, as far as I know. And with how cheap pirates generally are, it'd be a bit pointless if anyone did do that unless they were inflating the price because they think they're the only ones that can obtain it.[/quote]well Sky League do that, more or less. For a while they were selling otherwise unavailable GBC Sintax ROMs on Taobao for like 300 yuan (~$50) each. They also sold some kind of membership to get access to all their dumps, I dunno if they still do. and they also sell physical copies of games they seemingly just bought from other Taobao & Ruten sellers for massively inflated prices.
RayOfLightning
Lol, I was kinda told to keep the ROMs to myself to keep the price of the pirates high. [/quote] Someone told me the same thing once. But, you know, fuck that. Undumped pirates are cheap anyway - some of the original prints of older Famicom ones are getting more expensive, but they're all just the famous ones that are dumped anyway. And in those cases the ROM probably did more to drive up demand - I bet 99% of the people buying them (present company excluded of course) wouldn't give two fucks about something like Somari or Famicom SMW if they hadn't been able to play it for themselves.
the prototype situation is different, though - considering how expensive these things can get it's understandable that people would want to try and recoup at least some of the money they spent. Chances are they'd spend it on more prototypes to dump anyway, if they've already done that once. And a paid-for dump is still better than people just keeping them to themselves, especially if they don't even make a personal backup and just leave the things to die in an attic somewhere.
Barver
I have a bunch of undumped GBC and a couple GBA games I'd dump for free if anyone knew how to actually get the damned things dumped properly[/quote] Yep, same here..
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Ray of Lightning on September 13, 2012, 08:52:37 AM
Watari
Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM
I was just referring to pirate stuff before, but I see Barver's side of the arguement as well. Also, I'm crossing my fingers that Azathoth will have some better luck with dumping the game this time. It'd be nice to play beyond that horrible second level...[/quote]We can but hope, man. But I'm curious about you saying it'd be nice to play past the second level, does this mean that there's a copy around online already that just has copy protection that kicks in after the second level? Ooor, and I know this is probably a lot more likely, you have a copy of this game yourself (which if memory serves, ya do) and want to cheat your way past said level with the glory of emulators? :D
Also, just an aside: TaleSpin music in Mario, lol. >;)
taizou
RayOfLightning
Lol, I was kinda told to keep the ROMs to myself to keep the price of the pirates high. [/quote] Someone told me the same thing once. But, you know, fuck that.[/quote] Hear, hear. Good sir, bravo! :thumb:
taizou
Sep 13 2012, 08:30:25 AM
Barver
Sep 13 2012, 02:59:29 AM
Ah, you were thinking of ROMs of pirates? Can't say I can recall a single pirate release that's ever been distributed only after the dumper got money. It's a prototype-only thing, as far as I know. And with how cheap pirates generally are, it'd be a bit pointless if anyone did do that unless they were inflating the price because they think they're the only ones that can obtain it.[/quote]well Sky League do that, more or less. For a while they were selling otherwise unavailable GBC Sintax ROMs on Taobao for like 300 yuan (~$50) each. They also sold some kind of membership to get access to all their dumps, I dunno if they still do. and they also sell physical copies of games they seemingly just bought from other Taobao & Ruten sellers for massively inflated prices.[/quote] @Sky League:
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Azathoth on September 13, 2012, 08:59:19 AM
Watari
Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM
It'd be nice to play beyond that horrible second level...[/quote]Fuck that second level.
That was one of the most aggravating, teeth gritting, controller throwing moments I've had in a while. And oh guess what SMW64 has that fucked up booting method thing going on so it won't work with a Pro Action Replay, so there's no way to cheat or get unlimited lives.
It is the very definition of shit level design.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Pepper-98 on September 13, 2012, 09:15:48 AM
Ray of Lightning
Sep 13 2012, 08:52:37 AM
Watari
Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM
I was just referring to pirate stuff before, but I see Barver's side of the arguement as well. Also, I'm crossing my fingers that Azathoth will have some better luck with dumping the game this time. It'd be nice to play beyond that horrible second level...[/quote]We can but hope, man. But I'm curious about you saying it'd be nice to play past the second level, does this mean that there's a copy around online already that just has copy protection that kicks in after the second level? Ooor, and I know this is probably a lot more likely, you have a copy of this game yourself (which if memory serves, ya do) and want to cheat your way past said level with the glory of emulators? :D [/quote]I did own it at one point, but I sold it off. The second level is a damned nightmare at the end because you have to make a blind jump onto a rotating platform. Your best best, aside from jumping and praying, is to guess where the tiny center block is and aim for that...After trial-and-error on where the block actually is. I've made it beyond that like, twice, and died to that damn poison mushroom before the goal. As Azathoth said, fuck that level. It alone is one of the things that made me decide to get rid of the game.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Barver on September 13, 2012, 09:15:52 AM
Ah, I completely forgot about SkyLeague. I'm really surprised nothing he's dumped seems to even be leaked yet, knowing how things spread in China and all...
And what dumpers in their right mind think they have any right to be telling donators what to do with the ROMs of stuff they send in for dumping. I wouldn't even trust them with my carts, next thing you know they'd hold them for ransom :x
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Pepper-98 on September 13, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
Barver
Sep 13 2012, 09:15:52 AM
Ah, I completely forgot about SkyLeague. I'm really surprised nothing he's dumped seems to even be leaked yet, knowing how things spread in China and all...
And what dumpers in their right mind think they have any right to be telling donators what to do with the ROMs of stuff they send in for dumping. I wouldn't even trust them with my carts, next thing you know they'd hold them for ransom :x[/quote]I've been tempted to buy some of their ROMs and release them to the public anonymously, but I'm not an expert on dumping so I didn't want to end up doing something really bad and end up becoming (even more) of a huge dick.
And that second part is why I'm not going around asking for GBC dumpers, because I have some really rare games that may take forever to find again and I want to make sure that they're going to the right people. Don't wanna lose Sheng Shou Wu Yu after all these years. :X
Edit: Oh, I just realized, did you try dumping other Gamtec games like Bomboy, Azathoth? Since we're talking about Megadrive dumping, I realized I may have some games that aren't dumped for that system.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Ray of Lightning on September 13, 2012, 10:12:37 AM
Watari
Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM
I did own it at one point, but I sold it off. The second level is a damned nightmare at the end because you have to make a blind jump onto a rotating platform. Your best best, aside from jumping and praying, is to guess where the tiny center block is and aim for that...After trial-and-error on where the block actually is. I've made it beyond that like, twice, and died to that damn poison mushroom before the goal. As Azathoth said, fuck that level. It alone is one of the things that made me decide to get rid of the game.[/quote]Wow guys...That IS the pinnacle of bad level design. But then again, although it isn't level design per say, the amount of Ryu's in bootleg fighters that constantly spam the Hadoken and Shuriyken (bad spelling? meh.) could be contenter for worst design choice. Just a thought that occurred to me. :lol:
Watari
And that second part is why I'm not going around asking for GBC dumpers, because I have some really rare games that may take forever to find again and I want to make sure that they're going to the right people. Don't wanna lose Sheng Shou Wu Yu after all these years. :X[/quote] Trust, like in many places in life, seems to be hard to find even in dumpers. :\ But I can't say I blame anyone, I'd be wary too and the existence of entities like Sky League just seem to consolidate that. Oh well, it's like me mamma always said: "Dicks be everywhere. Y'just can't let them fuck ya."
So I guess all we can do is keep doing what we do best, get those bootlegs and try to dump 'em ourselves like the pirates we are, yarh-harh! >;)
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Linkrulezall on September 13, 2012, 03:03:42 PM
Ray of Lightning
Sep 13 2012, 02:36:54 AM
Linkrulezall
Sep 12 2012, 10:22:53 PM
WARNING: DON'T ATTEMPT ANYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED![/quote]Awwh. What a shame. I was going to print it off and put it on my wall as ROM dumping tips. :D
...In fact, I'm STILL going to do that. >;) [/quote]Well... You definitely COULD try it, but I'm not responsible for any side effects. If you find yourself suffering from any side effects, call Watari, Codeman38, or Barver and complain about it. Then they may or may not provide you with the cure.When was the last time we dealt with copy protection made of pure evil? As far as Sky League goes, as far as I'm concerned the only thing they're good for is those cards. But to the guy selling ROMs I say 您是乘坐飞机，去你妈的屁股
P.S. Hey Watari, Can we get some scans of those cards you're holding out on us?
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Pepper-98 on September 13, 2012, 06:02:18 PM
Linkrulezall
Sep 13 2012, 03:03:42 PM
When was the last time we dealt with copy protection made of pure evil? As far as Sky League goes, as far as I'm concerned the only thing they're good for is those cards. But to the guy selling ROMs I say 您是乘坐飞机，去你妈的屁股
P.S. Hey Watari, Can we get some scans of those cards you're holding out on us?[/quote]Wait, you care about those cards? I didn't think anybody did, so I never bothered with scans. I have like two whole decks of the things along with two or three "drawings" included with Sheng Shou Wu Yu and others. I don't think you're missing anything.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Linkrulezall on September 13, 2012, 06:15:18 PM
Watari
Sep 13 2012, 06:02:18 PM
Wait, you care about those cards?[/quote]Yeah, I'm probably the only person on the face of the earth (and possibly several other planets) who's actually interested in them.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Barver on September 13, 2012, 09:13:17 PM
I forgot about Bomboy, that's another one I own I can try dumping once I have a Retrode. Though I think Azathoth has had it and tried dumping it before...?
Then again, all my games are away at home, and I'm probably not returning there until December or so :x
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: FortOfBlankets on September 13, 2012, 09:14:56 PM
Linkrulezall
Sep 12 2012, 10:22:53 PM
Step 1 - Point at the globtops and tell them that you're very angry with them (be sure to put a lot of feeling into it) Step 2 - Using your right hand, shake your fist at the cartridge Step 3 - If steps 1 and 2 don't work, try scaring it Step 4 - Jam a piece of green bubble gum onto 6 of the pins Step 5 - Using a chainsaw and pistol, destroy the globtops Step 6 - Tell the board that you really, really love it in a Stephen Hawking voice Step 7 - Burn cartridge out of frustration Step 8 - Find and order another cartridge Step 9 - Wait 4-6 weeks Step 10 - Mix together an egg, some ice cream, and 1 tablespoon of chocolate syrup Step 11 - Rub this mixture over the pins using a dill pickle or marshmallow hamburger Step 12 - Try to dump again Step 13 - Fail Step 14 - Scream Step 16 - Cry Step 17 - Sulk Step 18 - Go back to step 1
WARNING: DON'T ATTEMPT ANYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED![/quote]Ashens Tech Dump?
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Azathoth on September 14, 2012, 12:00:49 AM
Barver
Sep 13 2012, 09:13:17 PM
Though I think Azathoth has had it and tried dumping it before...[/quote]I don't have Bomboy so I've never tried it. If I can find or borrow the cartridge from some generous soul dumping it would be no problem. It is already dumped but not shared publicly. The copy protection is already documented so it would just need to be manually patched onto the ROM.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: Pepper-98 on September 14, 2012, 07:39:01 AM
Azathoth
Sep 14 2012, 12:00:49 AM
Barver
Sep 13 2012, 09:13:17 PM
Though I think Azathoth has had it and tried dumping it before...[/quote]I don't have Bomboy so I've never tried it. If I can find or borrow the cartridge from some generous soul dumping it would be no problem. It is already dumped but not shared publicly. The copy protection is already documented so it would just need to be manually patched onto the ROM.[/quote]Well, that's were I come in. I know I have a spare cartridge of Bomboy lying around, and I figured that if you were interested I could send the game (and maybe others, if I have anything interesting I'm not remembering) to you for dumping. Also, does anybody know why the dump of 777 Casino doesn't work properly? If that's not an emulation issue, I could throw that in too if you want.
Title: Chinese copy protection
Post by: theshamblingmound on September 24, 2012, 01:23:10 AM
Ive been trying to dump Thunderbolt 2 and after multiple people looking at it we cant figure it out. Its a damn shame cause its a fine rare shooter! Anyway If anyone wants to buy it from me and give it a shot, or just have this fine rarity in ther collection than please pm me. I also have a spare copy of Bomboy for sale ;)