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Pirate Discussion => Famicom/NES => Topic started by: codeman38 on February 13, 2011, 07:33:14 PM

Title: Another sound engine discovery: Toxic Crusaders
Post by: codeman38 on February 13, 2011, 07:33:14 PM

A while back I'd noticed that a lot of the educational famiclone carts used the same sound driver for their music, and that this engine was also used in the menus for various X-in-1 carts as well. You know the ones: they all use various traditional/folk songs for the background music.

Naturally, that one's stolen too. Somehow, I'd completely missed a post by maxzhou88 showing just where it was stolen from: As he discovered (http://hi.baidu.com/maxzhou88/blog/item/ac8443334e4d3744ac4b5f60.html) (Google translation (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhi.baidu.com%2Fmaxzhou88%2Fblog%2Fitem%2Fac8443334e4d3744ac4b5f60.html)), that particular sound engine was identical to the one in Bandai's "Toxic Crusaders"!

I'm curious if this is actually the identity of the mysterious Nanjing sound engine, which I had once credited to Beam Software (http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=8038218/1/). The drums sound very similar, but the synths are different-- but maybe it's just different parameters or something.

Title: Another sound engine discovery: Toxic Crusaders
Post by: Awesome Panda on February 13, 2011, 07:53:04 PM

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there's actually a ROM dump of one of those educational Famiclone things that uses a song from that game. I forget what it's called though.

Title: Another sound engine discovery: Toxic Crusaders
Post by: taizou on February 13, 2011, 08:12:54 PM

thatd be the Subor one he mentions in the blog post (Subor v3.0) - he's extracted the music from it and posted a rom + source code on his file store thing (http://maxzhou88.ys168.com/) ("FC-Subor V3.0 Music Demo(source code).rar")

nos. 1,3,4,5,11,12,13,14 are Toxic Crusaders tracks, the rest are original Subor. i already recognise a couple of those from elsewhere - a bad version of no.6 is used on this multi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgB9dwXOe-E), and no.7 is used in the Rumble Station.. no. 9 sounds familiar too.

Title: Another sound engine discovery: Toxic Crusaders
Post by: Awesome Panda on February 13, 2011, 08:29:00 PM

I know track 09 and 1A are used on this multicart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il7oXLgopS4). (And the latter is an 8-bit rendition of Auld Lang Syne) Not sure where the rest are from though.

Title: Another sound engine discovery: Toxic Crusaders
Post by: SpaceNinja on February 22, 2011, 06:24:36 AM

I don't think SNT's sound engine is based upon Toxic Crusaders. The drums doesn't sound like what I got used to in the SNT games.