- taizou
- Sep 22 2010, 09:55:26 AM
094/11/30 is the expiry date I think - i was looking at 083/11/04, the initial filing date. which would be 4th November 1994 afaik.[/quote]Ah, right. Still, this is something that needs to be explained for the other forum members who aren't familiar with Taiwanese dates-- it confused me at first, to be sure!
Edit: Now I want to know what these guys were doing during the 16-bit era. Maybe they published some of the the SNES/MD ripoffs of licensed properties (Mulan, Pokemon, etc.) that we've been crediting to Chuanpu? Would make sense, given their GBC output primarily consists of knockoffs of licensed properties...- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 22, 2010, 10:00:10 AM- Yeah, true - the first time I encountered that system was on Gamtec's old site I think, it was quite a while before I realised they werent founded in 1978.
- codeman38
- Sep 22 2010, 09:56:54 AM
Edit: Now I want to know what these guys were doing during the 16-bit era. Maybe they published some of the the SNES/MD ripoffs of licensed properties (Mulan, Pokemon, etc.) that we've been crediting to Chuanpu? Would make sense, given their GBC output primarily consists of knockoffs of licensed properties...[/quote]Yeah, maybe.. X Boy seems to have published a lot of those though. but it wouldnt surprise me if Sintax was involved *somehow*.
edit: though i still find it odd that absolutely nothing has surfaced pre-2002 with Sintax's name on it - they were certainly never shy about using it after that.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on September 22, 2010, 10:12:00 AM- Ooh, I'm finding even more interesting stuff:
Apparently Sintax makes car stereos and video CD players (http://www.chinaqualitylighting.com/d-c1084062172714975-sintax_technology_co_ltd/). And, of course, MP4/game players, but we knew that one already. Definitely seems to be the same Sintax, given that they're in Guangdong and that they mention making video game software.
This page for nominations for an educational software award in Bologna (http://www.childrenssoftware.com/bologna/97nom.html) mentions "Enjoy With-Me, Sintax Technology Co., Ltd., Taichung, Taiwan. R.O.C." This is from 1997. So finally, something that's surfaced before 2002 with their name.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 22, 2010, 10:16:09 AM- ooh nice find. Maybe they were mostly PC developers before 2002 - i know pretty much nothing about Taiwanese PC games, so that'd explain a lot.
that said, their trademark filing does specifically mention cartridges. Hmm.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on September 22, 2010, 10:29:39 AM- More proof of Sintax's existence in Taiwan prior to 2002: this page (http://edu.ocac.gov.tw/discuss/academy/netedu01/doc/%E5%85%B6%E4%BB%96/%E5%BB%A0%E5%95%86.HTM) from a Taiwanese educational software exhibition in 1999. The characters in the 4th entry in the list should look familiar.
Interesting that all the hits I'm finding relate to educational PC software...
Another one for the listing: ST-0304027C, a Castlevania game that is apparently not the same one as Castlevania EMO Demo. http://blog.yam.com/fujishima/article/2176634 (http://blog.yam.com/fujishima/article/2176634)- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 22, 2010, 11:37:29 AM- one version of their site definitely mentioned both Castlevania DX and Castlevania R.. maybe that's R? Or a completely different one, even.
I'll keep the list updated with people's findings, anyway.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Awesome Panda on September 22, 2010, 01:42:22 PM- On that trademark page, I've got no idea what the 4th November 1994 (083/11/04 if you don't know) date means seeing as I don't have the Chinese typeface installed on Firefox but I think that'd date the company to have originated before then. Also, I don't know much about trademarks, but if Somari's trademark was registered in a few months then why did it take 10 years to register Sintax's? BTW, I just noticed that on their website it says that they had more than 10 years experience in "TVGAME" which (as long as it isn't a translation error) would mean that they've been around since at least 1993.
BTW, has anyone actually tried sending an e-mail to them? :P- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 22, 2010, 02:10:26 PM- you can see what all the dates mean on the english version:
http://tmsearch.tipo.gov.tw/TIPO_DRE/servlet/InitLogoPictureWordDetail?sKeyNO=083067692 (http://tmsearch.tipo.gov.tw/TIPO_DRE/servlet/InitLogoPictureWordDetail?sKeyNO=083067692)
it just doesn't include as many details.
that email address didn't even work in 2004 though (when they were presumably still in business) - http://64scener.com/gb/unl-3king.htm (http://64scener.com/gb/unl-3king.htm)
edit: they had a new email listed in 2006 - http://web.archive.org/web/20060206032636/http://www.st168.net/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20060206032636/http://www.st168.net/)
sintax@vip.163.com, could be worth a try.
edit2: nevermind.
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sintax@vip.163.com [/quote]- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on September 22, 2010, 03:35:24 PM- There are more e-mail addresses on this 2004 version of the site (http://web.archive.org/web/20040908232033/http://www.st168.net/eng/service.asp) - but they, too, are both invalid. sintaxtrade.com doesn't even have a DNS entry, and the Hotmail one bounces as inactive.
Edit: LOL, they also flat-out nicked the wording of that page off of Nintendo's site, and forgot to change all the references to Nintendo.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Awesome Panda on September 22, 2010, 03:54:26 PM
- Sintax
- Sintax
Good to see that their typos have consistency. :P Also, what's with the Super Tortoise banner at the top? Did Sintax make a ripoff of one of the TMNT arcade games or something?
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To order Player's Guides over the phone, call Nintendo's Customer Service Hotline at (86) 750-6580880.[/quote] :lol:- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 22, 2010, 04:54:45 PM- tried another one from one of those trade sites, sintax@163.com - it hasn't bounced yet, lets see what happens. (probably nothing)
- Cheetahmen92
yeah i was wondering about that.. i don't think i've seen any other reference to it apart from that one banner. Its probably out there somewhere though.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on September 22, 2010, 07:45:32 PM
- taizou
- Sep 22 2010, 08:22:35 AM
do you have any ideas about dumping them btw? i'm still having no luck with pretty much all my unlicensed stuff. i've been in touch with Martin Nielsen of 64scener/NES World, he owns a bunch of different GB copiers but he still hasn't been able to dump any of his Sintax games.[/quote]Well, I was planning to get that GB Transferer 2 cable that you had, but now that you've said that I have my doubts. I know Martin must have lots of copiers, so if he can't get a single one to dump and neither can you, it's probably a waste of money for me to get anything then...x
It seems like the No-Intro group have experienced dumpers, perhaps sending the games to them for dumping is the only option available, since it seems like it's not even possible to dump anything without some programming help.
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Post by: taizou on September 22, 2010, 07:58:48 PM- the one thing im not sure about is whether you could actually get a working copy from the dumps I have - i don't know if the dumps are complete but just protected somehow, or if theyre actually corrupt/incomplete. if theyre complete but just need descrambling or whatever, then i wouldn't need to actually send the carts anywhere (except FFIX and the multi). but i've yet to find anyone who can tell me either way. Forgot about No-Intro though, that might be worth a try.
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Post by: Barver on September 22, 2010, 08:25:30 PM- I've been wondering that myself. I take it you've tried finding someone already to send the ROMs you dump to? Probably not an easy task :/ And I personally don't like sending stuff away constantly heh. I still never got back my A'can games I had dumped.
New game for the list btw:
ST-0306034C Dragon Ball Z3- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 22, 2010, 09:08:01 PM- I've asked around a few places, I can't seem to find anyone. although I have pretty much zero idea of where people with any kind of GB technical knowledge might hang out. I think most of the GB pirate roms out there come from Chinese dumpers, but I dunno where I'd find them either. apart from Sky League maybe.
but yeah I can't even afford to send carts around the world at the moment.. if there was someone in the UK that could dump them, thatd be ideal. but there probably isnt.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on September 22, 2010, 10:24:12 PM- Yet another one
ST-0210021C Super Robot War X- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 22, 2010, 10:26:24 PM- thanks! i've seen that one before but the ID was cut off. i wonder if Pokemon Sapphire/Carbuncle is based on the same engine? (especially since it seems to have been the next release sequentially)
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Post by: codeman38 on September 22, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
- taizou
- Sep 22 2010, 10:26:24 PM
thanks! i've seen that one before but the ID was cut off. i wonder if Pokemon Sapphire/Carbuncle is based on the same engine? (especially since it seems to have been the next release sequentially)[/quote]Not to mention that Pokemon Sapphire has a ROM header of "ROBOT WAR v3.0".- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on September 23, 2010, 03:21:27 AM- Found another one buried in some email pics :) Doesn't say ST at the beginning though, just the numbers.
0405073C Pokemon Leaf Green- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Awesome Panda on September 24, 2010, 04:03:43 PM- Not sure if it has much relevance here but I just realised that Donkey Kong 5 may be a hacked version of Super Mario Bros. Deluxe. The level designs are identical (obviously) and the save select and map screens look the same from what I remember of SMBD. Then again, not really that surprising considering that Sintax was involved. :P
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Post by: taizou on September 24, 2010, 04:18:13 PM- i'm not sure, it does look like a very close copy design-wise, but the physics seem off to me.
btw i dunno if people have seen this already but NusuttoSan mentioned yet another variation on that game in the comments on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru9V6fLk8fs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru9V6fLk8fs)
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Post by: Awesome Panda on September 24, 2010, 04:26:45 PM
- taizou
- Sep 24 2010, 04:18:13 PM
i'm not sure, it does look like a very close copy design-wise, but the physics seem off to me.[/quote]Good point. Then again, they could've done what Yong Yong did (with Rockman 8) and change the engine. :P- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 24, 2010, 05:11:58 PM- completely unrelated but i just found what Little Taichi is based on, a Taiwanese cartoon:
http://www.magicplay-ent.com/taichikid.htm (http://www.magicplay-ent.com/taichikid.htm)
Gamtec even had a PC game in development based on it (and I guess theirs might have actually been licensed, with them being in Taiwan too). but I don't think it ever came out.
edit: actually Sintax's game was licensed too! its on the official site:
http://www.taichikid.com.tw/ (http://www.taichikid.com.tw/)
merchandise page: http://www.taichikid.com.tw/series/series01.htm (http://www.taichikid.com.tw/series/series01.htm)
so Sintax actually did have the rights to make one of their games. who knew.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Awesome Panda on September 24, 2010, 05:43:49 PM- For that Little Taichi game, wasn't that made in 2008? :huh: (That's as far as I can tell from the text from the website at least)
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Post by: taizou on September 24, 2010, 05:55:36 PM- where'd you see 2008? AFAIK its one of their older ones. probably from around 2002 or something.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on September 24, 2010, 06:00:38 PM
- taizou
- Sep 24 2010, 05:55:36 PM
where'd you see 2008? AFAIK its one of their older ones. probably from around 2002 or something.[/quote]Some scrolling text on the page that said
- Website
I could be wrong but I think 2008 is referring to the year. If so, then wouldn't that mean Sintax outlived V.Fame?- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on September 24, 2010, 06:06:21 PM
- taizou
- Sep 24 2010, 04:18:13 PM
i'm not sure, it does look like a very close copy design-wise, but the physics seem off to me. [/quote]Yeah... it doesn't seem to me like a direct hack so much as a shot-for-shot remake. Things aren't quite aligned the same on the DK5 screens as on SMB Deluxe.
And LOL at the Digimon hack version. Sintax's Engrish is brilliant.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 24, 2010, 06:18:21 PM
- Cheetahmen
- Sep 24 2010, 06:00:38 PM
- taizou
- Sep 24 2010, 05:55:36 PM
where'd you see 2008? AFAIK its one of their older ones. probably from around 2002 or something.[/quote]Some scrolling text on the page that said
- Website
I could be wrong but I think 2008 is referring to the year. If so, then wouldn't that mean Sintax outlived V.Fame?[/quote]ah, thats the website for Taichi Kid the cartoon, Sintax had nothing to do with that. they just developed the game based on it.
- codeman38
yeah, im now a big fan of the word "titful". i might have to start using it in conversation.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Awesome Panda on September 24, 2010, 06:26:33 PM
- taizou
- Sep 24 2010, 06:18:21 PM
- Cheetahmen
- Sep 24 2010, 06:00:38 PM
- taizou
- Sep 24 2010, 05:55:36 PM
where'd you see 2008? AFAIK its one of their older ones. probably from around 2002 or something.[/quote]Some scrolling text on the page that said
- Website
I could be wrong but I think 2008 is referring to the year. If so, then wouldn't that mean Sintax outlived V.Fame?[/quote]ah, thats the website for Taichi Kid the cartoon, Sintax had nothing to do with that. they just developed the game based on it.
- codeman38
yeah, im now a big fan of the word "titful". i might have to start using it in conversation.[/quote]Oh, I was sort of wondering why the page looked more professional than Sintax's. :P How very titful of myself. :lol: BTW, looking at info on that cartoon, I'm guessing the game was made in 2002 like you said.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 25, 2010, 10:22:31 PM- I just came across some Metal Slug game in an auction with a Chinese copyright registration number (the same type Waixing always seem to use) rather than a Sintax ID, so I looked it up.. and it turns out Sintax actually registered 74 of their games! its not a complete list but theres lots of stuff on there I've never heard of before. i've compiled it all here anyway:
http://fuji.drillspirits.net/stuff/xin.html (http://fuji.drillspirits.net/stuff/xin.html)- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on September 25, 2010, 10:53:45 PM- Wait a minute... "饿狼传说/Mark Of The Wolves" released in 2003? Same one that's credited to SKOB, I wonder?
Also, "太空宝贝" (2005SR2720) has the English title "Space Baby" according to Sintax. I'd call it "Lilo & Stitch"...- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 25, 2010, 11:03:57 PM- ah, I missed Space Baby. thanks!
and yeah, I was wondering about that Mark of the Wolves.. could well be the same one. I have it credited to "Fiver Firm" though.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Awesome Panda on September 26, 2010, 06:00:44 AM- A couple of the games on that list seem to be vaguely interesting to me. The Alien VS Predator one (while unlikely) is possibly ripped off for Shenzhen Nanjing's AvP game, (Yi Xing) I think Conora 8 is supposed to be Contra 8 so that might be vaguely interesting if it isn't a cheap hack and "The Lord of the Rings-the legend of Fighter" is probably inspired by/led to the inspiration of the Mega Drive LotR game. (which is a hack of that Chinese Fighter game) What I don't get is, if Sintax is Taiwanese then why would they use Chinese registration numbers? Was it for regional releases or something?
Also, who thought it'd be a good idea to port WoW to the Game Boy? The PC game is a waste of time as it is. :lol:- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on September 26, 2010, 07:00:04 AM- I guess there's proof now that Final Fantasy Unlimited Saga is from Sintax. That's sure a hell lot of games I'll probably never see in my life :P Lots of them are probably at a Tiny Toons 3 level of rarity now.
I wonder if 新石器时代 has anything to do with Gowin's game of the same name.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 26, 2010, 07:29:46 AM
- Cheetahmen
- Sep 26 2010, 06:00:44 AM
What I don't get is, if Sintax is Taiwanese then why would they use Chinese registration numbers? Was it for regional releases or something?
[/quote]well they started out in Taiwan but moved to China. Something like that anyway. But they do seem to have retained some Taiwanese connections, maybe the HQ moved to China but they kept an office in Taiwan.
- Cheetahmen
If thats not just a hack of True Three Kingdoms or something i'll be very surprised :D
- Barver
I dunno.. Stone Age was quite a popular online game in Taiwan AFAIK, and Gowin's game was officially licensed. Sintax's .. probably wasn't. Although Little Taichi was, so who knows.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Awesome Panda on September 26, 2010, 07:47:39 AM- (going off-topic here) I just realised something, if those are the standard registration numbers in China then what's to say that Waixing produced those cheap 16-bit consoles like the Zone 40 and such?
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Post by: taizou on September 26, 2010, 07:53:00 AM- well because the copyright numbers in those consoles are actually registered to Waixing. you can look them up here (on the slowest site ever): http://124.193.201.195/cpcc/RRegisterAction.do?method=list&no=fck (http://124.193.201.195/cpcc/RRegisterAction.do?method=list&no=fck)
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Post by: codeman38 on September 26, 2010, 12:20:42 PM
- Barver
- Sep 26 2010, 07:00:04 AM
I guess there's proof now that Final Fantasy Unlimited Saga is from Sintax. That's sure a hell lot of games I'll probably never see in my life :P Lots of them are probably at a Tiny Toons 3 level of rarity now. [/quote]Wow, you're right, I hadn't even noticed that.
This also means there's an English version of it-- in SpaceNinja's Big Sintax Post (http://piratedgamescentral.blogspot.com/2010/03/big-sintax-post.html), there's an "English Treasures" game titled "Crystal Age". I'd been wondering what the heck it was since I found it on Sintax's archived site, and given that copyright registration, it's obviously FF Unlimited! Now I only wish I could find the English version...- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on September 26, 2010, 11:27:26 PM- Has there ever been any confirmation that Sintax aren't the developers to most/all of their games and they're actually made by someone else? From what I remember, Unlimited Saga is pretty up there in quality(though no doubt the music at the least is stolen). Put up against many of their other works, its hard to imagine it's the same team behind it. Unless it's a later release and the quality of their work improved as they got later in their life cycle.
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Post by: taizou on September 27, 2010, 08:55:13 AM- well their first few games (at least) were developed by BBD, it even says as much on the title screen. my guess would be the better ones were made by BBD, the ones that arent as good (or are just cheap hacks of the BBD-developed games) were done in-house by Sintax. though it wouldnt surprise me if they used other external developers too.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on September 27, 2010, 01:26:22 PM
- taizou
- Sep 27 2010, 08:55:13 AM
well their first few games (at least) were developed by BBD, it even says as much on the title screen. my guess would be the better ones were made by BBD, the ones that arent as good (or are just cheap hacks of the BBD-developed games) were done in-house by Sintax. though it wouldnt surprise me if they used other external developers too.[/quote]Wouldn't surprise me, seeing as companies like Micro Genius published games by other pirates and created their own games as well.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on October 05, 2010, 08:58:55 PM- Got more new IDs. I assume we're still noting these since that huge list of copyright registration numbers isn't in order. Plus this shows the number goes past 78.
ST-0310041C 大话西游/Saiyuuki
ST-0425072C 口袋宝贝火红/Pocket Monstor-Red
ST-0409084C 口袋妖怪-白金版/Pocketmon-platina
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Post by: SpaceNinja on October 06, 2010, 05:20:26 AM- Wow. Just wow!
And many of these stuff are unavailable for us. Just imagine the sheer amount of typos!- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on October 12, 2010, 11:30:32 PM- ST-0405075C Metal Slug II
I got Metal Slug X-behind enemy lines also, but it only has a Chinese registration number, no consecutive release number.
Oh yeah, and I'm starting to get sick of Sintax. This game took the cake :X- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on October 13, 2010, 12:11:06 AM
- Barver
- Oct 12 2010, 11:30:32 PM
ST-0405075C Metal Slug II
I got Metal Slug X-behind enemy lines also, but it only has a Chinese registration number, no consecutive release number.
Oh yeah, and I'm starting to get sick of Sintax. This game took the cake :X[/quote]why? O:- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on October 13, 2010, 12:35:56 AM- Meh, the qualities no different from usual. I guess when you keep adding shit on top on a shit pile that's already amassing, it starts to get sickening ;) I also got Pokemon Platinum, only the seller gave me the box only and the included cart was a chinese translation of the Pokemon Crystal or Gold or something. So I guess my patience for getting Sintax games is starting to wear.
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Post by: codeman38 on November 04, 2010, 02:06:08 AM- I just noticed that 2003 Crash Advance II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmUtLxE35lA), as posted by NusuttoSan, bears a striking resemblance, between its logo and its sprite animation, to that mysterious GBA Crash bootleg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk2uU4MYt2w).
The more I look at it-- particularly given the awesomeness of the VFame GBA stuff I've been seeing lately-- the more I think that GBA bootleg's got to be Sintax's doing, possibly with VFame employees helping out in the sound department. That, or they just stole the audio like they did for GBC...- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on November 04, 2010, 02:30:59 AM- Yeah, i'd say thats about right.. it all seems to fit together with that "Digimon Zhi Hong Lan Dui Jue" game and Sintax's usual habits of rehashing basically everything ever. my guess would be that V.Fame and Sintax collaborated to port the SNES Digimon game to the GBA for whatever reason (maybe Sintax needed some help starting up GBA development), and either they just ported the basic engine and Sintax built new levels around it
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Post by: Awesome Panda on November 04, 2010, 02:01:52 PM
- codeman38
- Nov 4 2010, 02:06:08 AM
The more I look at it-- particularly given the awesomeness of the VFame GBA stuff I've been seeing lately-- the more I think that GBA bootleg's got to be Sintax's doing, possibly with VFame employees helping out in the sound department. That, or they just stole the audio like they did for GBC...[/quote]I think given that Sintax has a habit of stealing music from other games, I think we can assume that they did the same with Soul Falchion. Also, while V.Fame's GBA games use mostly 8-bit sound channels for their music as well, the PCM samples are nowhere near as ear bleeding as the ones used in Crash Advance IV.
BTW, the name of that one makes me wonder if Sintax ever made a Crash Advance I or III. Not to mention, the usage of "Advance" in the title is kind of odd considering that Crash Advance II is on the GBC, unless it's ported from the GBA or something.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on November 04, 2010, 02:50:20 PM
- Cheetahmen
- Nov 4 2010, 02:01:52 PM
I think given that Sintax has a habit of stealing music from other games, I think we can assume that they did the same with Soul Falchion. Also, while V.Fame's GBA games use mostly 8-bit sound channels for their music as well, the PCM samples are nowhere near as ear bleeding as the ones used in Crash Advance IV.[/quote]I think that was just a low quality recording. It'd be way too much of a coincidence for Sintax to steal the Soul Falchion music and add PCM percussion in pretty much the exact same way V.Fame were doing with their own GBA games. If they did steal it, it was probably from some as yet undiscovered V.Fame GBA game that recycles Soul Falchion music .. but I'm definitely leaning towards them having collaborated at some point.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on December 31, 2010, 05:45:34 AM- Time to raise the number of games again!
ST-0409085C 口袋妖怪-绿宝石/pocketmon-emerald
ST-0504093C 口袋宝贝-珍珠/Poketmon-pearl- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on December 31, 2010, 10:29:16 AM- 93! Bloody hell. I wonder if any of these later ones were ever released in English?
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Post by: Barver on December 31, 2010, 10:44:03 PM- Who knows, but one thing I feel almost positive on is that a lot of these later titles are probably some of their other games with a new title screen, or hacks of older games replacing the sprites.
Now I wonder if the number of games goes past 100. Maybe they reached 99 and decided to call it quits :P- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on January 21, 2011, 10:19:11 PM- New ID.
ST-0306030C 重装机兵/METAL MAXⅡ
口袋妖怪-绿宝石/pocketmon-emerald" is just a hack of that Castlevania clone called Emo Demo or whatever the ROM was. Back of the box shows the main character(Raichu) in the same castle as in the original version, but the actual game has all graphics replaced, doesn't even look like a castle but rather you're outside all the time.
口袋宝贝-珍珠/Poketmon-pearl is a generic game based on the same engine as Digimon Yellow Jade, play as Meowth for a few levels, a boss, the end. Same exact music too.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on January 22, 2011, 02:03:06 AM- oh sintax. theyre so lazy. no wonder they managed to release 93+ games when most of the time they just change the sprites.
BTW, I think I might have asked you on the RX forums before, but I can't find the thread now - whats Ge Dou Jian Shen?- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on January 22, 2011, 06:05:22 AM- Generic beat em up, 100% likely it's just a GBC game put inside a GBA case since, well, that's obviously what it is :p The engine also is exactly the same thing used in Metal Gear II.
I forgot to say Metal Max II uses the same music in the first town as you hear on the world map of Final Fantasy IX. Other music like in battles I've heard in other Sintax titles, can't remember which. There's also another Sintax title i got some time back called 海戰奇兵 which appears to be a hack of that Fire Emblem game from SKOB or whoever. Same music and setup and everything.
As always after buying Sintax stuff, I ask myself why do I keep buying this stuff since it's always crap lol. None of the really interesting titles ever pop up, like Zook Hero 3.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on January 22, 2011, 08:48:50 PM
- Barver
- Jan 21 2011, 10:19:11 PM
New ID.
ST-0306030C 重装机兵/METAL MAXⅡ [/quote]Is this the same game dumped as "Zhong Zhuan Qi Bing", out of curiosity-- or a sequel to it? That's the Chinese name of Metal Max, as in the original Data East game that this one rips off. And it uses the RPG Maker music as well.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on January 22, 2011, 10:01:30 PM- Yep, same exact game. I had no idea it was dumped till you mentioned it heh
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Post by: Barver on March 02, 2011, 04:07:02 AM- Number 92?
http://www.efgcw.com/?dp-bbsthread-1517.html (http://www.efgcw.com/?dp-bbsthread-1517.html)- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on March 02, 2011, 09:47:07 AM
- Barver
- Mar 2 2011, 04:07:02 AM
Number 92?
http://www.efgcw.com/?dp-bbsthread-1517.html (http://www.efgcw.com/?dp-bbsthread-1517.html)[/quote]Hm. Appears to be the Chinese title for Dragon Quest (as in Enix's game)... and taizou's list has a "Dragon pursue 8" written with the same Chinese characters. Wonder if it's the same game, or if Sintax made two Dragon Quest bootlegs?
Edit: Heh, yeah, that box art is definitely aping Toriyama's art style. :)- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on March 02, 2011, 11:20:15 PM- Possibly the same game in a GBA cart, since Sintax did that for some games apparently.
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Post by: klax on June 30, 2011, 10:08:23 AM- wait. METAL SLUG GAMEBOY?
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Post by: Robyn on September 16, 2011, 12:29:30 PM- I've got a cart by Sintax "2003 Digimon Sapphii" ST-0211015E
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Post by: taizou on September 16, 2011, 01:01:44 PM- Digimom you mean :D
Anyway thanks! added to the list. Even if its a hack of Digimon Amethyst, at least it doesnt have the whole mutant Sachen dinosaur thing going on on the title screen. Hell maybe this was the original and Amethyst was the hack.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on September 16, 2011, 01:48:39 PM- It's spelled Digimom on the cartridge, and Digitmon on the title screen. Sintax, never one for being even remotely consistent...
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Post by: fcgamer on December 16, 2012, 03:33:26 AM- Tried to post this one yesterday, but I don't see it now. Anyway, know for a fact that Sintax made games atleast to #112. Yikes!
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Post by: Barver on December 16, 2012, 06:13:44 AM- In an earlier post I mentioned a GBA cart I had from them, Ge Dou Jian Shen, with a #112 ID. Any chance it's the same game you saw? I'm still wondering if their GBA releases(which we all know are just their GBC games in GBA carts) followed the same serial order or not.
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Post by: fcgamer on December 16, 2012, 01:37:16 PM
- Barver
- Dec 16 2012, 06:13:44 AM
In an earlier post I mentioned a GBA cart I had from them, Ge Dou Jian Shen, with a #112 ID. Any chance it's the same game you saw? I'm still wondering if their GBA releases(which we all know are just their GBC games in GBA carts) followed the same serial order or not.[/quote]It might be the same, will need to check. Could you write out the title in characters for me? Then it would be easier for me to know.
I believe that the Game Boy Advance releases do indeed follow the same numbering as the Color releases. Need to check again my lists, but will probably post more on this later.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Barver on December 17, 2012, 08:54:26 AM- I think the characters were 格鬥劍神, but it's been a bit and I don't remember for certain.
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Post by: codeman38 on December 17, 2012, 11:25:09 PM- I suppose Star Wars 2 should be added to the list? Its serial number is GT-0210009C, putting it right before True Three Kingdoms II.
(Though I have no idea what alias of Sintax's would have started with a G...)- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on December 18, 2012, 09:31:15 AM- added! Also I just noticed Harry Potter 2 (a version of the previously dumped "Harry Potter" platformer with different levels) has the ID "ST-09003C".. which doesn't really fit with the regular numbering system at all.
oh yeah, and it actually has the Chinese name of Saturn Technology up the side, namely 钍星科技有限公司.
googling that gets one result, a post about Space Baby on Kamming's blog: http://hi.baidu.com/kamming/item/76d1aab12ee62d77254b097d (http://hi.baidu.com/kamming/item/76d1aab12ee62d77254b097d)
with a similar ID, which definitely does not match the one in this list.. so I guess they used a different numbering system on some of these "Saturn Technology" releases.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: fcgamer on December 19, 2012, 12:48:52 AM- Tried to respond to this but it didn't post last time, for some reason. Maybe I am just going crazy, sometimes it feels like it.
Not sure if there is more than one numbering system or not. I know 100% for a fact though that Sintax made mistakes in their numbering system. There are some games which have different numbers on the box and manual, respectively, and there are other times where two games share one number. Definitely some mistakes, but for the most part, I think the numbers can be used as a fairly good guide. This is inpart why I have been trying to purchase more Sintax games. I am trying to get a complete set of them, and although I have 35 or 40 different carts, it frustrates me a bit knowing that there are so many out there that I still can't seem to find. :(- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on December 23, 2012, 12:23:26 PM- Well, we know that ST-0206004 is Little Taichi now.
Which also means that it was only five games in before Sintax started reusing an engine. Five. (Granted, Donkey Kong 5 was a much more intricate graphical hack than their usual, but still.)
Edit: And something to throw a wrench into the whole "chronological order" thing. Super Robot War X is GT-0210001C. Which means...its sequential ID is earlier...but it came out in a later month than Little Taichi...?
Edit #2: Hm. Maybe the last three digits are still chronological, but the year/month are those of the specific printing? That...sort of makes sense, possibly. I'm almost certain that Super Robot War X is their first game, anyway, as the ROM doesn't have Sintax's typical assortment of tiles left over from previous games.
...Curiouser and curiouser. Guess what's buried in the Little Taichi ROM? Why, leftovers from Harry Potter! No, not the Super Mario DX play-alike, but the one with the Lemmings music.
Clearly, production order is not necessarily equal to release order.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on December 23, 2012, 01:25:38 PM- I think Harry Potter was released by BBD independently of Sintax, though - it probably came out around 2001, before Sintax started releasing GB games, so it wouldn't have been factored into their numbering system (although they might have reprinted it later - they did that with Garou and Metal Slug 2001)
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Post by: codeman38 on December 23, 2012, 04:03:11 PM- That actually would make sense. It's clear that they recycled at least part of the Harry Potter engine for Little Taichi (just look at the status bar!), so the tiles would've come along for the ride.
Edit: Yeah, d'oh, I had forgotten that the boot logo in Harry Potter was "BBD" rather than...that "Kwichvu" thing. So looks like this was the first case of BBD reusing one of their pre-Sintax engines for a Sintax game!- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: fcgamer on December 24, 2012, 07:22:21 AM- SKOB also released a (perhaps more) game shared with Sintax.
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Post by: taizou on December 24, 2012, 07:50:51 AM- Yeah, I think a few SKOB games were actually developed by BBD - Fire Emblem, Digimon D3, Pokemon Crystal (the Chikorita one) etc.
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Post by: fcgamer on December 24, 2012, 09:08:56 AM
- taizou
- Dec 24 2012, 07:50:51 AM
Yeah, I think a few SKOB games were actually developed by BBD - Fire Emblem, Digimon D3, Pokemon Crystal (the Chikorita one) etc.[/quote]Sintax released a version of the Fire Emblem game...it was different from the SKOB version, but just a sprite hack.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: codeman38 on December 24, 2012, 01:20:56 PM
- taizou
- Dec 24 2012, 07:50:51 AM
Yeah, I think a few SKOB games were actually developed by BBD - Fire Emblem, Digimon D3, Pokemon Crystal (the Chikorita one) etc.[/quote]Final Fantasy X, too. That one's been confirmed by both a flyer and an original box to be a SKOB release.- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: JoepVK on September 24, 2013, 12:34:42 PM- Yaaay More :yay: !...... :|
ST-0509090C = The Incredibles
Theres a vid somewhere, I'd make one too but my cart doesnt work :( (Tested on GB BOY COLOUR, GBC, GBA SP, GB)
Heres some pictures:
1: Box front
2: Box back
3: Box top
4: Box bottom
5: Inner whatever-they-are-called with sintax on 'em
6: Spine 1
7: Spine 2
8: Cart front
9: Cart back
10: Manual frontSpoiler: click to toggle
11: Manual page 2 and 3
12: Manual page 4 and 5
13: Manual page 6 and 7
14: Manual back
15: Seal of 'Quality'Spoiler: click to toggle- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Pepper-98 on September 24, 2013, 03:39:25 PM- Ah, we've known about that game for a while now (and I did a playthrough of the game, which is probably the video you're thinking of.) It's a graphic/level order hack of the Pokemon Platinum game (or vice-versa) that Taizou dumped (http://hhug.me/?post=45) a while back.
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Post by: JoepVK on September 24, 2013, 04:05:45 PM- Yeah, your name sounds familiair so probs.
Ive also got some Li-Cheng games from the same AliExpress seller, Is there a list of Li-Cheng games like this too?- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 24, 2013, 04:07:47 PM- I was working on compiling one at one point.. maybe I'll get back on that.
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Post by: JoepVK on September 24, 2013, 04:14:49 PM- Well, Are these games known? (+Prob the wrong thread :l)
Spoiler: click to toggle- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on September 24, 2013, 04:40:42 PM- yeah thats Digimon 3 Crystal, Soul Falchion, not sure (KOF 95 or 96 i think) & Super Fighter 99.
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Post by: Duckss farm on January 06, 2014, 12:50:15 PM- if I'm not necrobumping or something...
how many 2d beat 'em all games has sintax created?- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: Chowdit1 on December 16, 2014, 07:00:55 AM
- codeman38
- Sep 22 2010, 09:50:51 AM
Incidentally, a bit of Taiwanese calendar trivia, to make further sense of that trademark registration:
The Taiwanese government uses the Minguo calendar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minguo_calendar), which is the same as the Gregorian calendar except that the year 0 is 1911, when the Chinese republic was founded.
So "094/11/30" is actually 30 November 2005.
However, the trademark was initially registered on "084/12/01" - which is 1 December 1995. So it's still valid evidence that these guys were around in Taiwan during the 16-bit era![/quote]O_o Well, that's weird, because I've noticed that Sachen uses the American (and European?) calendar, for dating their games. For example, with "Dan Laser", and "Ant Soldiers".- Title: Sintax and their 93+ games
Post by: taizou on December 18, 2014, 05:06:52 PM- yeah it's common (if not universal?) for copyright dates on taiwanese games to use the gregorian (ie western) calendar.. the minguo calendar seems to be mostly used for official matters and older stuff