I can't get the supposed cheat to work well. (as in, you constantly jump to the left or something) Haven't looked at the other games yet.[/quote]It's to the right you numbnuts. :P [/quote]Whoops. Still couldn't get it to work properly because I kept dying. Anyway, I was looking through the other games and I noticed a few things going through them.
Some of them have sound effects ripped from either Mahjong (Nintendo game) or Gomoku Narabe Renju.
Difference is pretty much Difference Picture from my Cyber Arcade Centre except the graphics aren't as good, it even has the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde sound effects.
Polar Bat's title screen has a graphic of Kunio for some odd reason.
Wonder Rabbit uses the same engine as one of the games on the Cyber Arcade Centre. (I forgot the name of it but the music in that one is a bad rendition of the Pitfall II theme) Oh, and some of the graphics are stolen from Super Mario Bros. 2. (or Doki Doki Panic if you prefer)
A couple of the games seem to use different sound engines, not counting Falling Blocks.
Mad Xmas has that evil-looking Santa Claus in it, apparently Christmas comes early. :P
If I remember correctly, Metro Mania (or the menu in it, at least) looks like the racing game off that Famiclone that has the version of Jewel Master (Magic Jewelry hack) which uses SNT music.
I think Mouse Snare has Jerry's HUD picture ripped from Dragon Co's Tom & Jerry 3.
All of these Famiclones have some sort of lawn mowing game.
Seaport Gaurl seems to have a tile missing in the title, presumably it's meant to be Seaport Guard.
The guy in that game on the Cyber Arcade Centre I forget the name of is also used in Forest Adventure.
Rural Goblin is probably the easiest game ever made.
Submarine's music is definitely ripped off, but I'm not sure where from. I'm guessing Captain Tsubasa judging by the sound engine.
Nature Clan's games use a different sound engine as well.
River Jump clearly has graphics ripped off from one of the Sesame Street games. :lol:
Edit: Turns out I was right about Submarine. :D
I've found several places in the ROM where the letters necessary to spell "POWER JOY LTD" appear in the character set. Power Joy is, of course, another brand of Trump Grand. Not that we didn't know that already, but hey, never hurts to find further confirmation.
More tile-editor observations:
- I'm not sure what it's doing there, but that definitely looks like a Pikachu at about 0x3681AE buried in the graphics for Wonder Rabbit.
- The graphics for Super Hero still include the Felix the Cat title screen and story screens.
A lot of them have something like this too:
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/769/produce.png)
seems to be a "Produced By" but I have no idea what company name you could spell with the rest.
- Cheetahmen
-
All of these Famiclones have some sort of lawn mowing game.[/quote]
There always seems to be a game involving fish eating smaller fish too. They can't get enough of that shit.
theres also some Chinese text in with the graphics for RB Chess that doesnt seem to be used anywhere.. and possibly an unused Chinese title screen for that game?
- taizou
- Nov 27 2010, 11:54:02 PM
seems to be a "Produced By" but I have no idea what company name you could spell with the rest.[/quote]Heh, I found that too. I actually tried to figure that out by doing a relative search for "34156785" (which would spell "produced" in that table), and found a table that worked, based on the font at 0x1D145E. Here it is, in spoiler tags so you don't have to scroll through it:
Spoiler: click to toggle
00=
01=O
02=_
03=P
04=R
05=D
06=U
07=C
08=E
09=B
0A=Y
0B=I
0C=N
0D=S
0E=G
0F=A
10=T
11=L
12=M
13=W
14=F
15=J
16=H
17=K
The resulting text:
PRODUCED BY ROBIN SONG
NATURE COLOR GAME
DIRECTOR WOFIRE
ART DESIGN JONY
PROGRAMMER HUNK
I'm not sure what the programmer's name was-- those two characters didn't actually appear in any version of the alphabet in the ROM...Edit: Spoke too soon. Found another version of the font with "H" and "K" completing the alphabet, and updated the above accordingly.
ha, thats pretty awesome. :D
found another set of credits relative searching for "program":
PRODUCED BY ROBIN SONG
NATURE COLORG GAME
DIRECTOR WOFIRE
ART DESIGN SONIA
PROGRAMMER YANGJUN
Here's one I'm trying to figure out, but I have no idea how to relative-search for it without a *lot* of trial and error (if it's even in the ROM at all).
Viewing the PPU in "Dejectile" shows the following character set:
STAR©DONXIGFE+PLxCMV
Clearly this is supposed to be used to spell something, but what, I have no idea. Something "Xing", I'm guessing...
Edit: Guess it must've been removed. Using the PPU, I could narrow down that "S" had to be 0xE7-- and I found legible text for "Stage", "Pts", "Total Score", "Game Over", etc., just not any sort of copyright notice!
Also, that "Produced by Robin Song" bit that I found isn't even in one of the games credited to Nature Clan - it shows up in the PPU for Police Vs. Thief!
well heres a table for Dejectile:
Spoiler: click to toggle
E7=S
E8=T
E9=A
EA=R
EB=©
EC=D
ED=O
EE=N
EF=X
F0=I
F1=G
F2=F
F3=E
F4=*
F5=P
F6=L
F7=x
F8=C
F9=M
FA=V
the only text I can find is:
START
STAGE
PTS
TOTAL SCORE
GAME OVER
the D, N, X, I and F arent used at all, unless I'm missing something - seems like if they were, the string was removed from the ROM.
edit: ah you beat me to it. :D Can't find anything in Bomberman 2002 either.
One thing that is clear is that Dejectile was hacked from Bomberman 2002-- there are leftovers from the "MAN" part of the title screen.
On another amusing note, notice that the title shown on the car selection screen for Metro Mania reads "Hot Rucing". Rucing?!
- codeman38
- Nov 28 2010, 12:58:59 AM
On another amusing note, notice that the title shown on the car selection screen for Metro Mania reads "Hot Rucing".
Rucing?![/quote]And Ferrari was renamed to Farreri. :P Also, I can't anything through hex other than some error messages. Also, in the ROM I found a font similar to the one in Flipull, although I don't recall any games using it. One thing I find odd is that with one game, the tiles for the text in it read "COPYRIGHT2" so unless the games were apparently made in 2222, I think a couple of tiles were removed there.
Edit: I tried playing through Police Vs Thief out of boredom and I got up to level 11 before quitting, I might be wrong but I think stages 10 onwards recycle level layouts and nothing else changes.
- taizou
- Nov 27 2010, 11:54:02 PM
There always seems to be a game involving fish eating smaller fish too. They can't get enough of that shit.[/quote]I guess they really like Shark! Shark! or something. Another thing I want to point out is in the DreamGear 75-in-1, the game Shark has this weird noise at the beginning when you start playing. This same sound also plays in Shark! Shark! when a shark is on screen.
EDIT: I just realized, the Shark! Shark! noise I heard it from was the TechnoSource's version, not the original. The original had some other sounds I never recalled hearing before.
- Cheetahmen
- Nov 28 2010, 05:41:21 AM
One thing I find odd is that with one game, the tiles for the text in it read "COPYRIGHT2" so unless the games were apparently made in 2222, I think a couple of tiles were removed there.[/quote]ah but maybe they reused the O from COPYRIGHT as a zero, and they were made in 2002.
- taizou
- Nov 28 2010, 10:34:15 AM
- Cheetahmen
- Nov 28 2010, 05:41:21 AM
One thing I find odd is that with one game, the tiles for the text in it read "COPYRIGHT2" so unless the games were apparently made in 2222, I think a couple of tiles were removed there.[/quote]ah but maybe they reused the O from COPYRIGHT as a zero, and they were made in 2002.[/quote]Good point. For some crazy reason I was thinking the games were made in 2001, probably because I was rudely awaken at 6AM in the morning or something. Playing through Super Hero, the ripped Shatterhand graphics are there and beating the game just comes up with "The End" in the same (or very similar) font that The Panda Prince's title screen used, although there are no pictures.
Edit: I just noticed that the music in Pizzaboy is a bad rendition of the level theme from Clu Clu Land.
Apologies for reviving a rather dead topic, but I just found out that the music in Sea-Maid is stolen from a Famicom adaptation of Little Lord Fauntleroy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SzJPAzzkFA). Not surprised, quite frankly.
ah yeah, so it is. im slightly disappointed, but also not surprised.. whenever I think one of these games has decent music, it always turns out to be stolen :D
Apologies for reviving a rather dead topic (again), but I recently found a couple of things that are a bit interesting.
A sprite in Aquarium is stolen from Yo Noid (the little pizzas)
Mirror Devil World is a baaaaaaaaaad clone of Kickle Cubicle
The music in Knocking is an 8bit rendition of Darling Clementine
Also, many of the games were discovered on a Onestation 15000 in 1 cartridge which came with a GBA SP ripoff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdY10_Oc2w8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdY10_Oc2w8)
:somari: :JY:
- Linkrulezall
- May 14 2011, 10:59:29 PM
Apologies for reviving a rather dead topic (again)[/quote]I don't mind, as you have a valid reason for it. ;)
Also, I just noticed that the font for the score in Man in Red is stolen from Silkworm for some crazy reason. I'm guessing originality wasn't Nice Code's priority when it came to making these games.
- Cheetahmen
- May 15 2011, 06:51:15 AM
- Linkrulezall
- May 14 2011, 10:59:29 PM
Apologies for reviving a rather dead topic (again)[/quote]I don't mind, as you have a valid reason for it. ;)
Also, I just noticed that the font for the score in Man in Red is stolen from Silkworm for some crazy reason. I'm guessing originality wasn't Nice Code's priority when it came to making these games.[/quote]The same goes for Devildom Doom, and the font from Space Base's title screen is stolen from Base Wars!
Also, I just found out that Magic Bubble is actually Russia with a better color palette, The stars on the menu are taken from Sky Zone, a game from the Games Xplosion that isn't included on the Dreamgear 75-in-1, and finally, Dreamgear has a website! And yes, it's still active! It's located at
www.dreamgear.net
And by looking at their plug and play page, It seems they have a whole range of ripoff products! The systems I've seen rip off:
-Nintendo 64
-Playstation
-Dreamcast
-Guitar Hero
and...
-Nintendo Wii! :faint:
Is this the 8-bit Vii all over again? And they now have a redesigned Gamestation (With FIRE!) and a plug-n-play controller that could very well be the Games Xplosion all over again! :shock:
It seems there's more behind these people than we originally thought. They have a TON of Nice Code/Trump Grand software!
I like how the Wireless Tennis Rally has a controller that looks just like the ZuDuGo 51-in-1 or whatever it was called. The latter apparently has Nice Code games on it as well.
ha wow, i never really looked that closely at DreamGear's site before, but the sports games on their "Plug N' Play Wireless Motion Control" console are Nanjing's. & then there are 121 mini games, i wonder what they are?
- Cheetahmen
- May 15 2011, 05:30:10 PM
I like how the Wireless Tennis Rally has a controller that looks just like the ZuDuGo 51-in-1 or whatever it was called. The latter apparently has Nice Code games on it as well.[/quote]Yeah I noticed that. but even though the games listed in the manual are Waixing's it has a sticker on it saying "Game Sporz" which is a Macro Winners thing as far as I know - & heres another Game Sporz console (http://www.whitbourn.net/?p=154) which is all Cube Tech. but then DreamGear's site lists a different number of games to the manual, so I have no idea whats going on there.
Nanjing? Shenzen Nanjing? They made sports games? Or am I thinking of the wrong Nanjing?
- Linkrulezall
- May 15 2011, 06:02:04 PM
Nanjing? Shenzen Nanjing? They made sports games? Or am I thinking of the wrong Nanjing?[/quote]I could be wrong, but I think he meant that SNT released the console and the games were developed by someone else.
yeah its that Nanjing :D as far as i know they actually developed the games and someone else made (at least some of) the consoles theyre on - they registered the copyright on them and the Chinese versions have their logo everywhere. Although they might have outsourced them I guess.
here they are on Nanjing's site anyway: http://en.sznanjing.com.cn/Default.aspx?PN=products&TypeID=8163&ItemIndex=3&Tip=1 (http://en.sznanjing.com.cn/Default.aspx?PN=products&TypeID=8163&ItemIndex=3&Tip=1)
Wow... 11 in 1 bundle for PS3 move is what I see on their site... I bet that is the cheapest plastic ever, probably similar to what those balls in a McDonalds play-place are made out of....
- taizou
- May 15 2011, 05:40:19 PM
ha wow, i never really looked that closely at DreamGear's site before, but the sports games on their "Plug N' Play Wireless Motion Control" console are
Nanjing's. & then there are 121 mini games, i wonder what they are?[/quote]Wow, if you really squint at the screenshot of the soccer game in the 'sell sheet' PDF, it looks like they even left the "Nanjing Technology" text in there. (Here's the link (http://www.dreamgear.net/plug-n-play-wireless-motion-control-with-130-games.html), since their site is ridiculously difficult to navigate.)
Apparently TigerDirect sells this thing for $25. I'm tempted to buy it just for the train-wreck factor.
I saw the Dreamgear 75-in-1 only one time here in my city. And thanks God my cousin convinced me not to buy it, it was sold by an outrageously high price. A week later I came back and it wasn't there, so I guess a rich kid was bitching like hell in another part of the city.
Oh, also, Game Sporz is probably Macro Winners. Note that the model number of the boxing thing starts in "BS"-- and that'd explain how they have both Nice Code and Cube Tech games.
Apparently Game Sporz also made a ping-pong game (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120724898930). Which is, of course, Cube Tech's.
found an auction listing with some screenshots of the motion console's mini games:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320692421391 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320692421391)
they look like Nice Code games, I think they might be VT03 versions.
- taizou
- May 15 2011, 07:56:37 PM
found an auction listing with some screenshots of the motion console's mini games:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320692421391 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320692421391)
they look like Nice Code games, I think they might be VT03 versions.[/quote]Yep! Typical Nice Code software.
- Linkrulezall
- May 15 2011, 08:41:55 PM
- taizou
- May 15 2011, 07:56:37 PM
found an auction listing with some screenshots of the motion console's mini games:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320692421391 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320692421391)
they look like Nice Code games, I think they might be VT03 versions.[/quote]Yep! Typical Nice Code software.[/quote]Now I'm wondering whether the Nanjing sports games were actually developed by Nice Code-- especially since the two companies did have a known relationship at one point.
heres the same thing on Trump Grand's alibaba site: http://trumpgrand.en.alibaba.com/product/342883980-212436772/Interactive_All_in_one.html (http://trumpgrand.en.alibaba.com/product/342883980-212436772/Interactive_All_in_one.html)
- codeman38
- May 15 2011, 09:50:20 PM
Now I'm wondering whether the Nanjing sports games were actually developed by Nice Code-- especially since the two companies did have a known relationship at one point.[/quote]Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.. I'm sure I came to some conclusion about why they probably weren't, but I can't remember what that was. :D
ooh i just noticed - the sports games on the DreamGear are the VT03 versions too, not the VT168 versions seen on the Wow/Vii/etc. so maybe the sound engine might be a giveaway.
- taizou
- May 15 2011, 09:50:31 PM
heres the same thing on Trump Grand's alibaba site: http://trumpgrand.en.alibaba.com/product/342883980-212436772/Interactive_All_in_one.html (http://trumpgrand.en.alibaba.com/product/342883980-212436772/Interactive_All_in_one.html)[/quote]Wow. Almost all of dreamgear's products appear on Trump Grand's alibaba website. This raises a question: Could DreamGear be just another alias of Nice Code/Trump Grand?
nah, DreamGear is just a US-based distributor as far as I know - most of their recent consoles are made by Trump Grand but a lot of their older products were Jungletac's, and there are a few others scattered in there (one by Macro Winners and one by Qi Sheng Long that I know of)
I realized "Abscondee" has a strange glitch in which you can receive 5 lives at once for no apparent reason. I'm playing these games too much...
- Ninja-Kun
- May 20 2011, 08:08:27 PM
I realized "Abscondee" has a strange glitch in which you can receive 5 lives at once for no apparent reason. I'm playing these games too much...[/quote]Well, considering that these games aren't worth 10 seconds of amusement, I think you are. :P
i'm trying to figure out which actual DreamGear console this was dumped from, but the problem is DreamGear has a whole bunch of 75 in 1 systems and none of them seem to correspond to the rom.
the "Plug & Play" 75 in 1 seemed likely at first but heres the packaging:
front http://www.promo-wholesale.com/Upfiles/Prod_o/Dreamgear-Plug-N-Play-Controller-With-75-Games_20090711637.jpg (http://www.promo-wholesale.com/Upfiles/Prod_o/Dreamgear-Plug-N-Play-Controller-With-75-Games_20090711637.jpg)
back http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/computerwarehouse/DSC06598.jpg?t=1256322925 (http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/computerwarehouse/DSC06598.jpg?t=1256322925)
and most of the games shown in those screenshots arent actually on the dumped one. so that's ruled out.
then there's the "My Arcade" 75 in 1:
http://www.dreamgear.net/shop-by-platform/plug-n-play/my-arcade-75-and-1.html (http://www.dreamgear.net/shop-by-platform/plug-n-play/my-arcade-75-and-1.html)
again with screenshots of games that arent on it. so thats out too.
i'm not sure about the "Gamestation 2"
http://www.dreamgear.net/shop-by-platform/plug-n-play/my-arcade-game-station-with-75-games.html (http://www.dreamgear.net/shop-by-platform/plug-n-play/my-arcade-game-station-with-75-games.html)
but it comes with a lightgun, and there are no lightgun games in the dumped system, so it seems unlikely.
and i'm out of ideas. anyone else?
Well, I don't know if it can be of any help, but the first and only time I saw a DreamGear system (the typical joystick with no cartridge slot) in a nearby store, the packaging said something like "52 games plus 118 more!". So maybe this ROM was taken from a system that had some kind of switch or something that made possible changing between different sets of games?
Yeah, it could have been. i'd think cah4e3 would have dumped both sets of games if that was the case though.
actually I just noticed the Plug & Play 75 in 1, 86 in 1 and 101 in 1 all have the same screenshots on their packaging, so I guess DreamGear might have just been lazy and reused the same set of screens regardless of whether those games are actually on the console in question.
- taizou
- Jul 4 2011, 05:37:11 PM
then there's the "My Arcade" 75 in 1:
http://www.dreamgear.net/shop-by-platform/plug-n-play/my-arcade-75-and-1.html (http://www.dreamgear.net/shop-by-platform/plug-n-play/my-arcade-75-and-1.html)
again with screenshots of games that arent on it. so thats out too.[/quote]Funny how a couple of the games on there definitely look like hacks (of Excitebike and Rad Racer in case you missed them, and maybe the one on the bottom right) when the rest of them on these systems are originals. Reminds me of this Excalibur 64-in-1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2McXAP3WYG0) which mostly has NC originals, along with several Rad Racer hacks, Spar and an unhacked Route-16 Turbo.
One of the screens on the 75/86/101 reused screenshot fest looks like Route 16 Turbo as well. I have an Excalibur 101 thats a similar deal - 99 originals, one F1 Race hack and one Star Force hack.
incidentally the Excalibur that guy reviewed looks exactly the same as the 30 in 1 16-bit thing I got from China recently. hmm!
This video of the console (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNyP3Ak0hvQ) (if I recall, this is the guy whose console was dumped by cah4e3, but I may be mistaken) shows it clearly as being a variant of the My Arcade. The box is entirely different, but the controller itself is identical.
Edit: ::facepalm:: Actually, that's the exact unit shown in the first link Taizou provided. (My brain is clearly somewhere else today.) But yeah, the My Arcade is probably just a repackage of it-- the unit itself looks identical.
ah yeah, I should have checked that video - it looks like he just used a promo shot rather than a photo of his actual console, but I'm still leaning towards that being the one and DreamGear using the wrong screenshots. I've come across a game list for the 101 in 1 and a bunch of the games shown (the Track & Field hack/clones notably) aren't on that either.
I just noticed something; on those Track & Field games, some of the graphics are taken straight out of Gold Medal Challenge '92.
- Cheetahmen
- Jul 5 2011, 12:07:31 PM
I just noticed something; on those Track & Field games, some of the graphics are taken straight out of Gold Medal Challenge '92.[/quote]Ooh, wow, indeed they are. Good catch!
Speaking of stolen graphics, Mouse Snare's title screen uses graphics from Dr. Mario, Silkworm and Tom & Jerry 3 (the Dragon Co. game, that is).
Also, sort of unrelated (although still by Nice Code) but Crazy Racing off that 8-bit Vii is actually a complete ripoff (or possibly a hack) of Astro Fang - Super Machine.
some more Dragon Co. reuse:
(http://i.imgur.com/O0U89.png)
thats from the Overmax 151 in 1, the actual game is identical to Rabbit Village on the DreamGear
I love how the carrot is missing, which makes it look like Bugs is pretending to talk to someone on an invisible phone. :P
Where did you find that from anyway? (I'm guessing you own it, but I might as well ask)
that or he's eating his own finger :D
and yeah, I own it. i just took screenshots of all the games last night, its for something i'm planning for my site but i can upload them somewhere as well. I'll start a new thread for that though, it'd probably derail this one into massively un-dreamgear territory
Well if they're just the standard Nice Code YONG YONGe, then I don't think it'd matter all that much. Probably best if you did though.
well all but about 30 of the games are VT03, lots of them are just graphical updates of the usual stuff but some of them are decent. there are quite a few full fledged platformers and shooters and stuff. Theyre definitely getting better.
Yeah, definitely worth setting up a seperate then. Can't be as bad as this DreamGEAR shi'ite, at least. :P
Bringing this topic back to life, I just came across a couple of videos (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10133019) on (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10280154) NicoVideo (you'll need an account there to watch them) about a plug 'n play 101-in-1 by GameJoy Japan, which seems to be the Japanese equivalent of the DreamGEAR abominations. The majority of the games appear to be the ones off the DreamGEAR 75-in-1 (in fact, the first game not on there is game 21) and even the menu looks similar. One thing I find slightly odd is that some games in the same spots that they are on the 75-in-1 (i.e. Final Blood being game 30 on both)
According to the bloke who did the video, Fish Story's music is an 8-bit rendition of Love Song something something (can't read Japanese, as you can probably tell) from Dragon Quest 2. I also find it funny that the Buzz Bombers ripoff (Intellivision game) is called IQ Champion, even though it has absolutely nothing to do with IQ tests. (I suppose you argue the same for Kurushi on the PS1, but still) Slot Machine's music is obviously stolen, haven't got a clue where from though. (I think the uploader says where it's from, but I can't read it)
What's most interesting is Hurry Burry (game 39, in case you're wondering) which looks just like that game I can't remember the name of by Cube Tech. (in fact, I'm willing to bet that they just hacked it)
Also interesting is that Shunting (game 69) is basically a rebranded version of Dragon, which is in turn a hack of Fire Dragon by Gamtec. /:) And it apparently starts on stage 24 for no reason. And did they really need two Snake ripoffs? :rolleyes:
Edit: Just noticed that the font on Pathway's logo is identical to the one that Bomb Drop off the N-Joypad uses.
- Cheetahmen
- Jul 16 2011, 03:17:10 PM
Bringing this topic back to life, I just came across a couple of videos (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10133019) on (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10280154) NicoVideo (you'll need an account there to watch them) about a plug 'n play 101-in-1 by GameJoy Japan, which seems to be the Japanese equivalent of the DreamGEAR abominations. The majority of the games appear to be the ones off the DreamGEAR 75-in-1 (in fact, the first game not on there is game 21) and even the menu looks similar. One thing I find slightly odd is that some games in the same spots that they are on the 75-in-1 (i.e. Final Blood being game 30 on both)[/quote]Oh, yes! I posted about those a while back here:
http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=7986313/1/ (http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=7986313/1/)
The same guy also has one for the Famikon Yarou, showing comparisons with the original games (and places where they simply forgot to hack them).
I'm fully aware of that, but you mentioned that long before the videos for the 101-in-1 were uploaded. (Incidentally, I love how one of the commenters compares the 54-in-1 to Action 52. Can't say I blame him, quite frankly) There are also videos of some of the Famicom Yarou 7-in-1s, but I think they're all just hacks of regular Famicom/NES games.
Here's the original of the Dragon Quest 2 tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhcuZq1-pdM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhcuZq1-pdM) Clearly, NiceCode's version is a vastly inferior remake, but it's definitely based on that! (Incidentally, that's "Love Song Sagashıte", which I've spelled without a dot on the "i" to avoid getting YONG YONGed.)
Someone also pointed out in the NicoNico comments that the music in Balloon Shoot (#16) sounds like an off-key version of NTDEC's Porter. I'd never noticed, but it does vaguely sound like it... even the percussion sounds quite NTDEC-y.
- codeman38
- Jul 16 2011, 06:17:15 PM
Here's the original of the Dragon Quest 2 tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhcuZq1-pdM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhcuZq1-pdM) Clearly, NiceCode's version is a
vastly inferior remake, but it's definitely based on that! (Incidentally, that's "Love Song Sagashıte", which I've spelled without a dot on the "i" to avoid getting YONG YONGed.)[/quote]Well it's not the first time they've bastardised an existing song. :whistle: Still, it's better than what Yong Yong themselves have to offer.
Hurry Burry definitely does look like Cube's "Snack Time"-- the level layout is quite literally identical-- but the HUD is entirely different. Weird.
Ooh, just noticed something. "Magic Bubble", the Tetris clone, uses a variation of Nice Code's font with the hooked '4'. Even the version on the ABL Console TV, "Strange Pop Pop", uses this font.
The HUD is also different in one of their Magic Jewelry hacks. They probably altered it themselves, but I'm not sure on that.
The music from Balloon Shoot is a strange hacked version of the music from Twin Cards/Memory Test! I knew it sounded familiar.
The music in Slot Machine is from Tenchi wo Kurau (Destiny of an Emperor).
- codeman38
- Jul 16 2011, 06:56:18 PM
The music from Balloon Shoot is a strange hacked version of the music from Twin Cards/Memory Test! I knew it sounded familiar.[/quote]I might be wrong, but I think I pointed that out on my LP of the 75-in-1. (Then again, you'd have to be mad to watch the whole thing :X ) Forgot to point it out on the Wiki though.
The sprites from Wait and See and Rabbit crisis looks like they got the sprites from wait and see just not including the carrot.
According to the video maker (and I've confirmed this), the music in Nutcracker (#53) is a really bad, off-rhythm remake of a tune from RBI Baseball (Family Stadium).
A commenter on the video observes that the sound effects in Jumping Kid are from Balloon Fight.
Yeah, that sounds right to me. I'd have probably spotted it myself if their rendition suck Yong Yong's broken synthesiser. Obviously, music wasn't really NC's strong point. (well actually, I don't think they have a strong point but whatever)
Also worth pointing out that the gameplay music in Toy Bricks is a broken version of the tune from Magic Bubble/Octopus/Twin Fish/etc.
Edit: Just noticed that the transition effect in Dringle is taken from Battle City.
Also, call me crazy but I think the engine used in Vigilant bears a surpringly close resemblance to the flying stage from Super Contra X.
- Cheetahmen
- Jul 16 2011, 03:17:10 PM
Also interesting is that Shunting (game 69) is basically a rebranded version of Dragon, which is in turn a hack of Fire Dragon by Gamtec. /:) And it apparently starts on stage 24 for no reason. And did they really need two Snake ripoffs? :rolleyes:[/quote]Shunting is on the Power Joy Supermax 60 games cart as well (it even has a "Power Joy Ltd" copyright on there), the only other hacks on it are a few Duck Hunt ones. and the Excalibur 101 in 1 has like 99 original games, plus Bicycle Race (the F1 Race hack) and Bolt Action (Starforce hack). I think Trump Grand just forgot which games were actually original sometimes.
- Cheetahmen
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The HUD is also different in one of their Magic Jewelry hacks. They probably altered it themselves, but I'm not sure on that.[/quote]
Im not sure if that one actually is a Magic Jewelry hack, they might have made it from scratch. i have it on a thingy somewhere and it seems kinda different.
- codeman38
- Nov 27 2010, 11:38:21 PM
I've found several places in the ROM where the letters necessary to spell "POWER JOY LTD" appear in the character set. Power Joy is, of course, another brand of Trump Grand. Not that we didn't know that already, but hey, never hurts to find further confirmation.
More tile-editor observations:
- I'm not sure what it's doing there, but that definitely looks like a Pikachu at about 0x3681AE buried in the graphics for Wonder Rabbit.
- The graphics for Super Hero still include the Felix the Cat title screen and story screens.[/quote]I need photos as proof of this. :huh:
download a tile editor and go look for yourself, they're in there
- taizou
- Oct 18 2014, 10:38:12 AM
download a tile editor and go look for yourself, they're in there[/quote]Don't have one. O.o
But it does sound neat!
Try Tile Layer Pro, it's free ;)