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BootlegGames Wiki / Moving from Wikia to another host
« on: January 04, 2015, 01:49:14 AM »
Well, Super Smash Bros. Wiki (http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com) has forked over to SmashWiki (http://ssbwiki.com), and the forked wiki is successful. It is possible for forked wikis to be successful.

And if the wiki does fork, I'll see what I can do to help out. But yeah, I agree with your points, mostly the latter.

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BootlegGames Wiki / Moving from Wikia to another host
« on: January 03, 2015, 08:46:57 PM »
I actually did think about the ShoutWiki/Orain longevity problem itself. I think hosting Bootleg-Games would best for the wiki. You can try and contact someone to see if they'd do it for you (Porplemontage, for example, pays for hosting many NIWA wikis & Jake does it with Wikisimpsons).

Do you guys think this is a valid discussion too? (and yes, I dislike ShoutWiki's Aurora skin, except I can read the article easier than with Oasis on Wikia.)

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BootlegGames Wiki / Moving from Wikia to another host
« on: January 03, 2015, 12:56:56 PM »
Sorry to start out on this forum like this, I believe Bootleg-Games Wiki should be moved outside of Wikia. The Wikia wiki skin gives me a headache and the visual editor easily wrecks articles. In other words, I think we should re-host the wiki elsewhere, like independently or on another wiki farm (like ShoutWiki).

Wikia wikis are unfortunately more prone to spam. Users also do not have as much control over the wiki if on Wikia, because Wikia staff will involuntarily shove new features down others' throats, like the notorious Oasis skin on November 3, 2010. It caused major wikis like Wikisimpsons and Animal Crossing Wiki to move out of Wikia and become independent hosts.

See here for steps on how to move out of Wikia: AWA guide. The linked wiki site is anti-Wikia itself, explaining bad experiences users have had with Wikia and when the Monaco wiki skin was removed. Try having a look into the wiki. It's on another wiki host—ShoutWiki (which isn't a bad one). I'm also currently banned on Wikia.

So Anti-Wikia Alliance explains why the users have left Wikia. Most of it is because of the new Wikia skin that everybody dislikes. You cannot set the default Wiki skin to even vector... WoWWiki & Uncyclopedia even forked. Quote: "Wikia will continue to make changes against your wikis best interest as they have in the past."

That being said, the community here doesn't seem to have control over their content, and all wikis are forced a CC-BY-SA license. ShoutWiki does allow you to choose a license & a wiki name that does not end in "wiki". Comparison of wikis on Orain: Wikia vs. ShoutWiki vs. Orain.

And I'm not a troll, by the way. I myself am also interested in bootleg games, specifically Donkey Kong ones. I mostly know about Super Donkey Kong 2 for the NES & how it only has three levels.

We should make sure to make database dumps of the wiki with this Python script (Python 2) and post it on the Internet Archive. Wikia wikis are a pain to back up as well—no images are backed up either. Even this tool doesn't always work on them.

As the one who started this discussion, I support the wiki's move. ShoutWiki or Orain sound like the best option for a new wiki host to me.

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