Chinese copy protection

[taizou]

Barver

Sep 13 2012, 02:59:29 AM

Ah, you were thinking of ROMs of pirates? Can't say I can recall a single pirate release that's ever been distributed only after the dumper got money. It's a prototype-only thing, as far as I know. And with how cheap pirates generally are, it'd be a bit pointless if anyone did do that unless they were inflating the price because they think they're the only ones that can obtain it.[/quote]well Sky League do that, more or less. For a while they were selling otherwise unavailable GBC Sintax ROMs on Taobao for like 300 yuan (~$50) each. They also sold some kind of membership to get access to all their dumps, I dunno if they still do. and they also sell physical copies of games they seemingly just bought from other Taobao & Ruten sellers for massively inflated prices.

RayOfLightning

 

Lol, I was kinda told to keep the ROMs to myself to keep the price of the pirates high. [/quote]
Someone told me the same thing once. But, you know, fuck that. Undumped pirates are cheap anyway - some of the original prints of older Famicom ones are getting more expensive, but they're all just the famous ones that are dumped anyway. And in those cases the ROM probably did more to drive up demand - I bet 99% of the people buying them (present company excluded of course) wouldn't give two fucks about something like Somari or Famicom SMW if they hadn't been able to play it for themselves.

the prototype situation is different, though - considering how expensive these things can get it's  understandable that people would want to try and recoup at least some of the money they spent. Chances are they'd spend it on more prototypes to dump anyway, if they've already done that once. And a paid-for dump is still better than people just keeping them to themselves, especially if they don't even make a personal backup and just leave the things to die in an attic somewhere.

Barver

 

I have a bunch of undumped GBC and a couple GBA games I'd dump for free if anyone knew how to actually get the damned things dumped properly[/quote]
Yep, same here..

[Ray of Lightning]

Watari

Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM

I was just referring to pirate stuff before, but I see Barver's side of the arguement as well.  Also, I'm crossing my fingers that Azathoth will have some better luck with dumping the game this time.  It'd be nice to play beyond that horrible second level...[/quote]We can but hope, man. But I'm curious about you saying it'd be nice to play past the second level, does this mean that there's a copy around online already that just has copy protection that kicks in after the second level? Ooor, and I know this is probably a lot more likely, you have a copy of this game yourself (which if memory serves, ya do) and want to cheat your way past said level with the glory of emulators?

Also, just an aside: TaleSpin music in Mario, lol. >

taizou

 

RayOfLightning

 

Lol, I was kinda told to keep the ROMs to myself to keep the price of the pirates high. [/quote]
Someone told me the same thing once. But, you know, fuck that.[/quote]
Hear, hear. Good sir, bravo!  :thumb:

taizou

Sep 13 2012, 08:30:25 AM

Barver

Sep 13 2012, 02:59:29 AM

Ah, you were thinking of ROMs of pirates? Can't say I can recall a single pirate release that's ever been distributed only after the dumper got money. It's a prototype-only thing, as far as I know. And with how cheap pirates generally are, it'd be a bit pointless if anyone did do that unless they were inflating the price because they think they're the only ones that can obtain it.[/quote]well Sky League do that, more or less. For a while they were selling otherwise unavailable GBC Sintax ROMs on Taobao for like 300 yuan (~$50) each. They also sold some kind of membership to get access to all their dumps, I dunno if they still do. and they also sell physical copies of games they seemingly just bought from other Taobao & Ruten sellers for massively inflated prices.[/quote]
@Sky League:

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Watari

Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM

It'd be nice to play beyond that horrible second level...[/quote]Fuck that second level.

That was one of the most aggravating, teeth gritting, controller throwing moments I've had in a while. And oh guess what SMW64 has that fucked up booting method thing going on so it won't work with a Pro Action Replay, so there's no way to cheat or get unlimited lives.

It is the very definition of shit level design.

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Ray of Lightning

Sep 13 2012, 08:52:37 AM

Watari

Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM

I was just referring to pirate stuff before, but I see Barver's side of the arguement as well.  Also, I'm crossing my fingers that Azathoth will have some better luck with dumping the game this time.  It'd be nice to play beyond that horrible second level...[/quote]We can but hope, man. But I'm curious about you saying it'd be nice to play past the second level, does this mean that there's a copy around online already that just has copy protection that kicks in after the second level? Ooor, and I know this is probably a lot more likely, you have a copy of this game yourself (which if memory serves, ya do) and want to cheat your way past said level with the glory of emulators? [/quote]I did own it at one point, but I sold it off.  The second level is a damned nightmare at the end because you have to make a blind jump onto a rotating platform.  Your best best, aside from jumping and praying, is to guess where the tiny center block is and aim for that...After trial-and-error on where the block actually is.  I've made it beyond that like, twice, and died to that damn poison mushroom before the goal.  As Azathoth said, fuck that level.  It alone is one of the things that made me decide to get rid of the game.

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Ah, I completely forgot about SkyLeague. I'm really surprised nothing he's dumped seems to even be leaked yet, knowing how things spread in China and all...

And what dumpers in their right mind think they have any right to be telling donators what to do with the ROMs of stuff they send in for dumping. I wouldn't even trust them with my carts, next thing you know they'd hold them for ransom :x

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Barver

Sep 13 2012, 09:15:52 AM

Ah, I completely forgot about SkyLeague. I'm really surprised nothing he's dumped seems to even be leaked yet, knowing how things spread in China and all...

And what dumpers in their right mind think they have any right to be telling donators what to do with the ROMs of stuff they send in for dumping. I wouldn't even trust them with my carts, next thing you know they'd hold them for ransom :x[/quote]I've been tempted to buy some of their ROMs and release them to the public anonymously, but I'm not an expert on dumping so I didn't want to end up doing something really bad and end up becoming (even more) of a huge dick.

And that second part is why I'm not going around asking for GBC dumpers, because I have some really rare games that may take forever to find again and I want to make sure that they're going to the right people.  Don't wanna lose Sheng Shou Wu Yu after all these years.  :X

Edit: Oh, I just realized, did you try dumping other Gamtec games like Bomboy, Azathoth?  Since we're talking about Megadrive dumping, I realized I may have some games that aren't dumped for that system.

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Watari

Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM

I did own it at one point, but I sold it off.  The second level is a damned nightmare at the end because you have to make a blind jump onto a rotating platform.  Your best best, aside from jumping and praying, is to guess where the tiny center block is and aim for that...After trial-and-error on where the block actually is.  I've made it beyond that like, twice, and died to that damn poison mushroom before the goal.  As Azathoth said, fuck that level.  It alone is one of the things that made me decide to get rid of the game.[/quote]Wow guys...That IS the pinnacle of bad level design. But then again, although it isn't level design per say, the amount of Ryu's in bootleg fighters that constantly spam the Hadoken and Shuriyken (bad spelling? meh.) could be contenter for worst design choice. Just a thought that occurred to me.  :lol:

Watari

 

And that second part is why I'm not going around asking for GBC dumpers, because I have some really rare games that may take forever to find again and I want to make sure that they're going to the right people. Don't wanna lose Sheng Shou Wu Yu after all these years. :X[/quote]
Trust, like in many places in life, seems to be hard to find even in dumpers. :\ But I can't say I blame anyone, I'd be wary too and the existence of entities like Sky League just seem to consolidate that. Oh well, it's like me mamma always said: "Dicks be everywhere. Y'just can't let them fuck ya."

So I guess all we can do is keep doing what we do best, get those bootlegs and try to dump 'em ourselves like the pirates we are, yarh-harh! >

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Ray of Lightning

Sep 13 2012, 02:36:54 AM

Linkrulezall

Sep 12 2012, 10:22:53 PM

WARNING: DON'T ATTEMPT ANYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED![/quote]Awwh. What a shame. I was going to print it off and put it on my wall as ROM dumping tips.

...In fact, I'm STILL going to do that.  > [/quote]Well... You definitely COULD try it, but I'm not responsible for any side effects. If you find yourself suffering from any side effects, call Watari, Codeman38, or Barver and complain about it. Then they may or may not provide you with the cure.When was the last time we dealt with copy protection made of pure evil?
As far as Sky League goes, as far as I'm concerned the only thing they're good for is those cards. But to the guy selling ROMs I say 您是乘坐飞机，去你妈的屁股

P.S. Hey Watari, Can we get some scans of those cards you're holding out on us?

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Linkrulezall

Sep 13 2012, 03:03:42 PM

When was the last time we dealt with copy protection made of pure evil?
As far as Sky League goes, as far as I'm concerned the only thing they're good for is those cards. But to the guy selling ROMs I say 您是乘坐飞机，去你妈的屁股

P.S. Hey Watari, Can we get some scans of those cards you're holding out on us?[/quote]Wait, you care about those cards?  I didn't think anybody did, so I never bothered with scans.  I have like two whole decks of the things along with two or three "drawings" included with Sheng Shou Wu Yu and others.  I don't think you're missing anything.

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Watari

Sep 13 2012, 06:02:18 PM

Wait, you care about those cards?[/quote]Yeah, I'm probably the only person on the face of the earth (and possibly several other planets) who's actually interested in them.

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I forgot about Bomboy, that's another one I own I can try dumping once I have a Retrode. Though I think Azathoth has had it and tried dumping it before...?

Then again, all my games are away at home, and I'm probably not returning there until December or so :x

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Linkrulezall

Sep 12 2012, 10:22:53 PM

Step 1 - Point at the globtops and tell them that you're very angry with them (be sure to put a lot of feeling into it)
Step 2 - Using your right hand, shake your fist at the cartridge
Step 3 - If steps 1 and 2 don't work, try scaring it
Step 4 - Jam a piece of green bubble gum onto 6 of the pins
Step 5 - Using a chainsaw and pistol, destroy the globtops
Step 6 - Tell the board that you really, really love it in a Stephen Hawking voice
Step 7 - Burn cartridge out of frustration
Step 8 - Find and order another cartridge
Step 9 - Wait 4-6 weeks
Step 10 - Mix together an egg, some ice cream, and 1 tablespoon of chocolate syrup
Step 11 - Rub this mixture over the pins using a dill pickle or marshmallow hamburger
Step 12 - Try to dump again
Step 13 - Fail
Step 14 - Scream
Step 16 - Cry
Step 17 - Sulk
Step 18 - Go back to step 1


WARNING: DON'T ATTEMPT ANYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED![/quote]Ashens Tech Dump?

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Barver

Sep 13 2012, 09:13:17 PM

Though I think Azathoth has had it and tried dumping it before...[/quote]I don't have Bomboy so I've never tried it. If I can find or borrow the cartridge from some generous soul dumping it would be no problem. It is already dumped but not shared publicly. The copy protection is already documented so it would just need to be manually patched onto the ROM.

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Azathoth

Sep 14 2012, 12:00:49 AM

Barver

Sep 13 2012, 09:13:17 PM

Though I think Azathoth has had it and tried dumping it before...[/quote]I don't have Bomboy so I've never tried it. If I can find or borrow the cartridge from some generous soul dumping it would be no problem. It is already dumped but not shared publicly. The copy protection is already documented so it would just need to be manually patched onto the ROM.[/quote]Well, that's were I come in.  I know I have a spare cartridge of Bomboy lying around, and I figured that if you were interested I could send the game (and maybe others, if I have anything interesting I'm not remembering) to you for dumping.  Also, does anybody know why the dump of 777 Casino doesn't work properly?  If that's not an emulation issue, I could throw that in too if you want.

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Ive been trying to dump Thunderbolt 2 and after multiple people looking at it we cant figure it out. Its a damn shame cause its a fine rare shooter! Anyway If anyone wants to buy it from me and give it a shot, or just have this fine rarity in ther collection than please pm me. I also have a spare copy of Bomboy for sale

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[Azathoth]

Watari

Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM

It'd be nice to play beyond that horrible second level...[/quote]Fuck that second level.

That was one of the most aggravating, teeth gritting, controller throwing moments I've had in a while. And oh guess what SMW64 has that fucked up booting method thing going on so it won't work with a Pro Action Replay, so there's no way to cheat or get unlimited lives.

It is the very definition of shit level design.

[Pepper-98]

Ray of Lightning

Sep 13 2012, 08:52:37 AM

Watari

Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM

I was just referring to pirate stuff before, but I see Barver's side of the arguement as well.  Also, I'm crossing my fingers that Azathoth will have some better luck with dumping the game this time.  It'd be nice to play beyond that horrible second level...[/quote]We can but hope, man. But I'm curious about you saying it'd be nice to play past the second level, does this mean that there's a copy around online already that just has copy protection that kicks in after the second level? Ooor, and I know this is probably a lot more likely, you have a copy of this game yourself (which if memory serves, ya do) and want to cheat your way past said level with the glory of emulators? [/quote]I did own it at one point, but I sold it off.  The second level is a damned nightmare at the end because you have to make a blind jump onto a rotating platform.  Your best best, aside from jumping and praying, is to guess where the tiny center block is and aim for that...After trial-and-error on where the block actually is.  I've made it beyond that like, twice, and died to that damn poison mushroom before the goal.  As Azathoth said, fuck that level.  It alone is one of the things that made me decide to get rid of the game.

[Barver]

Ah, I completely forgot about SkyLeague. I'm really surprised nothing he's dumped seems to even be leaked yet, knowing how things spread in China and all...

And what dumpers in their right mind think they have any right to be telling donators what to do with the ROMs of stuff they send in for dumping. I wouldn't even trust them with my carts, next thing you know they'd hold them for ransom :x

[Pepper-98]

Barver

Sep 13 2012, 09:15:52 AM

Ah, I completely forgot about SkyLeague. I'm really surprised nothing he's dumped seems to even be leaked yet, knowing how things spread in China and all...

And what dumpers in their right mind think they have any right to be telling donators what to do with the ROMs of stuff they send in for dumping. I wouldn't even trust them with my carts, next thing you know they'd hold them for ransom :x[/quote]I've been tempted to buy some of their ROMs and release them to the public anonymously, but I'm not an expert on dumping so I didn't want to end up doing something really bad and end up becoming (even more) of a huge dick.

And that second part is why I'm not going around asking for GBC dumpers, because I have some really rare games that may take forever to find again and I want to make sure that they're going to the right people.  Don't wanna lose Sheng Shou Wu Yu after all these years.  :X

Edit: Oh, I just realized, did you try dumping other Gamtec games like Bomboy, Azathoth?  Since we're talking about Megadrive dumping, I realized I may have some games that aren't dumped for that system.

[Ray of Lightning]

Watari

Sep 13 2012, 07:57:52 AM

I did own it at one point, but I sold it off.  The second level is a damned nightmare at the end because you have to make a blind jump onto a rotating platform.  Your best best, aside from jumping and praying, is to guess where the tiny center block is and aim for that...After trial-and-error on where the block actually is.  I've made it beyond that like, twice, and died to that damn poison mushroom before the goal.  As Azathoth said, fuck that level.  It alone is one of the things that made me decide to get rid of the game.[/quote]Wow guys...That IS the pinnacle of bad level design. But then again, although it isn't level design per say, the amount of Ryu's in bootleg fighters that constantly spam the Hadoken and Shuriyken (bad spelling? meh.) could be contenter for worst design choice. Just a thought that occurred to me.  :lol:

Watari

 

And that second part is why I'm not going around asking for GBC dumpers, because I have some really rare games that may take forever to find again and I want to make sure that they're going to the right people. Don't wanna lose Sheng Shou Wu Yu after all these years. :X[/quote]
Trust, like in many places in life, seems to be hard to find even in dumpers. :\ But I can't say I blame anyone, I'd be wary too and the existence of entities like Sky League just seem to consolidate that. Oh well, it's like me mamma always said: "Dicks be everywhere. Y'just can't let them fuck ya."

So I guess all we can do is keep doing what we do best, get those bootlegs and try to dump 'em ourselves like the pirates we are, yarh-harh! >

[Linkrulezall]

Ray of Lightning

Sep 13 2012, 02:36:54 AM

Linkrulezall

Sep 12 2012, 10:22:53 PM

WARNING: DON'T ATTEMPT ANYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED![/quote]Awwh. What a shame. I was going to print it off and put it on my wall as ROM dumping tips.

...In fact, I'm STILL going to do that.  > [/quote]Well... You definitely COULD try it, but I'm not responsible for any side effects. If you find yourself suffering from any side effects, call Watari, Codeman38, or Barver and complain about it. Then they may or may not provide you with the cure.When was the last time we dealt with copy protection made of pure evil?
As far as Sky League goes, as far as I'm concerned the only thing they're good for is those cards. But to the guy selling ROMs I say 您是乘坐飞机，去你妈的屁股

P.S. Hey Watari, Can we get some scans of those cards you're holding out on us?

[Pepper-98]

Linkrulezall

Sep 13 2012, 03:03:42 PM

When was the last time we dealt with copy protection made of pure evil?
As far as Sky League goes, as far as I'm concerned the only thing they're good for is those cards. But to the guy selling ROMs I say 您是乘坐飞机，去你妈的屁股

P.S. Hey Watari, Can we get some scans of those cards you're holding out on us?[/quote]Wait, you care about those cards?  I didn't think anybody did, so I never bothered with scans.  I have like two whole decks of the things along with two or three "drawings" included with Sheng Shou Wu Yu and others.  I don't think you're missing anything.

[Linkrulezall]

Watari

Sep 13 2012, 06:02:18 PM

Wait, you care about those cards?[/quote]Yeah, I'm probably the only person on the face of the earth (and possibly several other planets) who's actually interested in them.

[Barver]

I forgot about Bomboy, that's another one I own I can try dumping once I have a Retrode. Though I think Azathoth has had it and tried dumping it before...?

Then again, all my games are away at home, and I'm probably not returning there until December or so :x

[FortOfBlankets]

Linkrulezall

Sep 12 2012, 10:22:53 PM

Step 1 - Point at the globtops and tell them that you're very angry with them (be sure to put a lot of feeling into it)
Step 2 - Using your right hand, shake your fist at the cartridge
Step 3 - If steps 1 and 2 don't work, try scaring it
Step 4 - Jam a piece of green bubble gum onto 6 of the pins
Step 5 - Using a chainsaw and pistol, destroy the globtops
Step 6 - Tell the board that you really, really love it in a Stephen Hawking voice
Step 7 - Burn cartridge out of frustration
Step 8 - Find and order another cartridge
Step 9 - Wait 4-6 weeks
Step 10 - Mix together an egg, some ice cream, and 1 tablespoon of chocolate syrup
Step 11 - Rub this mixture over the pins using a dill pickle or marshmallow hamburger
Step 12 - Try to dump again
Step 13 - Fail
Step 14 - Scream
Step 16 - Cry
Step 17 - Sulk
Step 18 - Go back to step 1


WARNING: DON'T ATTEMPT ANYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED![/quote]Ashens Tech Dump?

[Azathoth]

Barver

Sep 13 2012, 09:13:17 PM

Though I think Azathoth has had it and tried dumping it before...[/quote]I don't have Bomboy so I've never tried it. If I can find or borrow the cartridge from some generous soul dumping it would be no problem. It is already dumped but not shared publicly. The copy protection is already documented so it would just need to be manually patched onto the ROM.

[Pepper-98]

Azathoth

Sep 14 2012, 12:00:49 AM

Barver

Sep 13 2012, 09:13:17 PM

Though I think Azathoth has had it and tried dumping it before...[/quote]I don't have Bomboy so I've never tried it. If I can find or borrow the cartridge from some generous soul dumping it would be no problem. It is already dumped but not shared publicly. The copy protection is already documented so it would just need to be manually patched onto the ROM.[/quote]Well, that's were I come in.  I know I have a spare cartridge of Bomboy lying around, and I figured that if you were interested I could send the game (and maybe others, if I have anything interesting I'm not remembering) to you for dumping.  Also, does anybody know why the dump of 777 Casino doesn't work properly?  If that's not an emulation issue, I could throw that in too if you want.

[theshamblingmound]

Ive been trying to dump Thunderbolt 2 and after multiple people looking at it we cant figure it out. Its a damn shame cause its a fine rare shooter! Anyway If anyone wants to buy it from me and give it a shot, or just have this fine rarity in ther collection than please pm me. I also have a spare copy of Bomboy for sale