- codeman38
- Oct 3 2010, 12:12:11 PM
Edit #3: The battle theme and the victory jingle in the GB version are taken from Queen of Fighters 2000. Guess Vast Fame were all for reusing music even then.[/quote]I guess the composer for V.Fame left sometime around 2001 and that Shi Kong Xing Shou came after the other one (I'm not good with Chinese names myself) Of course, V.Fame would wipe the floor (not literally) with SNT anyday, as shown here.
Edit: BTW, Taizou, there actually 6 songs in SNT's game, not 2. Mind you, they're all awful and some are reused from the Harvest Moon pirate. BTW, is it possible that these games are actually based off an official title that V.Fame happened to copy better?
EDIT by KingPepe - It's Taizou you doofus. :P- Title: Nanjing takes on V.Fame at their own game
Post by: taizou on October 03, 2010, 06:05:12 PM
- Cheetahmen
- Oct 3 2010, 12:52:29 PM
I guess the composer for V.Fame left sometime around 2001 and that Shi Kong Xing Shou came after the other one (I'm not good with Chinese names myself) Of course, V.Fame would wipe the floor (not literally) with SNT anyday, as shown here.[/quote]their GBA games all seem to have original music though (except the half-Sintax ones). he was probably still there, just too busy or something.
- Cheetahmen
Edit: BTW, Taizou, there actually 6 songs in SNT's game, not 2. Mind you, they're all awful and some are reused from the Harvest Moon pirate. BTW, is it possible that these games are actually based off an official title that V.Fame happened to copy better?[/quote]
ah lol. Well thats what I get for passing judgement on a game after only playing it for five minutes :D
I think it was probably V.Fame's original game though... or if they copied it from somewhere else, Nanjing copied V.Fame's copy.
- Cheetahmen
EDIT by KingPepe - It's Taizou you doofus. :P[/quote]
:D- Title: Nanjing takes on V.Fame at their own game
Post by: Awesome Panda on October 03, 2010, 06:22:51 PM
- taizou
- Oct 3 2010, 06:05:12 PM
ah lol. Well thats what I get for passing judgement on a game after only playing it for five minutes :D
I think it was probably V.Fame's original game though... or if they copied it from somewhere else, Nanjing copied V.Fame's copy.
- Cheetahmen
EDIT by KingPepe - It's Taizou you doofus. :P[/quote]
:D[/quote]I wouldn't be surprised if they did TBH, given the nature of pirates they're no strangers toloveplagiarism.
BTW, Pep, I thought I did write Taizou originally. That's what I get for being lax on my spellchecking. :P- Title: Nanjing takes on V.Fame at their own game
Post by: codeman38 on October 03, 2010, 08:01:26 PM- Ooh, now I'm wondering about something else.
Waixing's Digital Dragon is very clearly based on Digimon 3 for GBC. In fact, it even has the same title as Digimon 3, except with a 4 instead of a 3 (and in Simplified rather than Traditional Chinese, naturally).
So is this another case of a mainland NES developer ripping off Vast Fame?- Title: Nanjing takes on V.Fame at their own game
Post by: taizou on October 03, 2010, 08:46:23 PM- the weird thing in that case is that Waixing does seem to have at least *some* connection to the whole Taichung group of developers, or if not, they coincidentally happened to use PC Paint for a few of their games (eg some of the Dragon Quest translations, Le Comte de Monte Cristo and their Contra clone Desert Storm (http://fuji.drillspirits.net/stuff/desert/)). so if they did rip off Vast Fame, they were ripping off a company they had some kind of tenuous link to.
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Post by: codeman38 on October 03, 2010, 10:53:18 PM
- taizou
- Oct 3 2010, 08:46:23 PM
the weird thing in that case is that Waixing does seem to have at least *some* connection to the whole Taichung group of developers, or if not, they coincidentally happened to use PC Paint for a few of their games (eg some of the Dragon Quest translations, Le Comte de Monte Cristo and their Contra clone Desert Storm (http://fuji.drillspirits.net/stuff/desert/)). so if they did rip off Vast Fame, they were ripping off a company they had some kind of tenuous link to.[/quote]Ooh, yeah, I remember noticing the PC Paint thing in some of Waixing's games too. I wonder whether there was any connection there, or if it was sheer coincidence?
Edit: Whatever the case may be, they were using PC Paint as far back as 1997; the Waixing logo in Doraemon uses a font from PC Paint.- Title: Nanjing takes on V.Fame at their own game
Post by: taizou on October 03, 2010, 11:14:51 PM- yeah the logo screen in tons of their games (even as late as 2009 (http://hi.baidu.com/tszone_fc/blog/item/053bf7fd49f7b549d7887d92.html)) uses a PC Paint font. but Le Comte de Monte Cristo is one of the few I've seen to actually use the fonts anywhere else, and thats ©1996. Desert Storm is 1996 too. so maybe they only actually used PC Paint for a few of their earliest games, but just recycled the same logo screen in pretty much everything else?
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Post by: Awesome Panda on October 04, 2010, 01:07:35 PM
- taizou
- Oct 3 2010, 11:14:51 PM
yeah the logo screen in tons of their games (even as late as 2009 (http://hi.baidu.com/tszone_fc/blog/item/053bf7fd49f7b549d7887d92.html)) uses a PC Paint font. but Le Comte de Monte Cristo is one of the few I've seen to actually use the fonts anywhere else, and thats ©1996. Desert Storm is 1996 too. so maybe they only actually used PC Paint for a few of their earliest games, but just recycled the same logo screen in pretty much everything else?[/quote]Wait, they've been using those weird copyright dates since 1996? And I thought it was made in 2005 or something, seeing as it was sometimes bundled with their cheapo games like those you find on Dream Gears and such. Also, if it was made then, wouldn't that mean Super Fight I came out in the same year seeing as that's when Super Contra 7 was released and Desert Storm has some of the same graphics as it? Mind you, seeing as Super Contra 7 appears to slightly modify the Contra engine and Desert Storm doesn't, the latter might have been made first.- Title: Nanjing takes on V.Fame at their own game
Post by: taizou on October 04, 2010, 11:24:14 PM- yeah, the format was different back then, but that seems to have been when they started using them. Super Fight I's number is 960418, Desert Storm's is 960419, so they must have been made (or at least registered) pretty much at the same time in 1996.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on October 05, 2010, 04:07:58 AM
- taizou
- Oct 4 2010, 11:24:14 PM
yeah, the format was different back then, but that seems to have been when they started using them. Super Fight I's number is 960418, Desert Storm's is 960419, so they must have been made (or at least registered) pretty much at the same time in 1996.[/quote]I think it's fair to assume that those dates translate to April 18th 1996 and April 19th 1996. Presumably, Super Contra 7 came out first then which I think would date it (and likely Lu Ye Xian Zong) to April 17th or earlier.- Title: Nanjing takes on V.Fame at their own game
Post by: taizou on October 05, 2010, 08:48:53 AM- I dunno, i think its just a coincidence that they look like real dates - they are legit copyright registration numbers too, so unless the chinese government only registered one piece of software per day in 96 it probably just means they were the 418th and 419th to be registered that year
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Post by: Awesome Panda on October 05, 2010, 11:10:16 AM
- taizou
- Oct 5 2010, 08:48:53 AM
I dunno, i think its just a coincidence that they look like real dates - they are legit copyright registration numbers too, so unless the chinese government only registered one piece of software per day in 96 it probably just means they were the 418th and 419th to be registered that year[/quote]Good point, but it does (almost certainly) mean that Desert Storm came after Super Fight I. Also, I can't really tell if Super Contra 7 came first though. I think it's possible that Super Fight I might have been an earlier version of it, and Waixing finished it later that year.- Title: Nanjing takes on V.Fame at their own game
Post by: Mitchykins on October 05, 2010, 11:56:35 PM- It seems like no RPG is safe from Nanjing.
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Post by: SpaceNinja on October 06, 2010, 05:03:15 AM- Hey hey hey, just read up the topic. Add the fact that SNT RE-released this one in a different NJ number, having a different title screen only.
For me, the game is unbalanced right from the bat. Okay, yourPokéDigimonster (SIGH) has different moves, but if your L14 gets 80% of HP removed by one hit of a L02 (!!!) enemy, there IS a slight problem again.
I'm planning to conquest this game down as well as the remaining SNT RPG games.