- codeman38
- Apr 15 2012, 06:19:34 PM
Yep, definitely some homebrew TFM Music Maker stuff with the music. So much so that these are all TFM modules that are available on the Modland FTP site. :lol: Curiously, they play at a much faster speed in the game than the original TFM tracks, though...[/quote]Reminds me of TomSoft's SegaMusic program, where the converted music plays at a considerably higher pitch than it's supposed to.
Also, given the simplicity of these games I think they might have been programmed in BASIC or something like that.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Brn89 on April 16, 2012, 03:35:42 AM- So, all three of these games are homebrews but not necessarily bootlegs? I thought they were at first.
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Post by: Awesome Panda on April 16, 2012, 08:48:05 AM
- BrydoRX
- Apr 16 2012, 03:35:42 AM
So, all three of these games are homebrews but not necessarily bootlegs? I thought they were at first.[/quote]Well, seeing as they use copyrighted sources without permission and were sold, I think they would count as bootlegs.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Rapid_Fire on June 09, 2012, 01:09:24 PM- If someone want to test some of this games, here (http://rufiles.narod.ru/page1.htm) you can download them. Or if you don't want to search, i'll left here the direct download links (taken from the same web site)
Ben 10 (http://rufiles.narod.ru/new/Ben_10.7z)
Mario 3 (http://rufiles.narod.ru/new/Mario_3.7z)
Mario 4 (http://rufiles.narod.ru/new/Mario_4.7z)- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: recorderdude on June 12, 2012, 02:11:10 PM- Hmm, KEGA fusion won't run the marioes at all, but ben 10 works fine in it.
Is there any FCEU-MMs to genesis emulation that are better with pirate mappers or something like that?- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on June 12, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
- recorderdude
- Jun 12 2012, 02:11:10 PM
Hmm, KEGA fusion won't run the marioes at all, but ben 10 works fine in it. [/quote]Odd; I'm using that and the Mario games work fine. (Well, as best as they can given how awful the games are)- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: recorderdude on June 12, 2012, 02:30:40 PM- I'm using 3.64. Maybe if I try 3.63....
EDIT: NVM, I just had to edit the russian out of the filename.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Awesome Panda on June 12, 2012, 02:32:36 PM
- recorderdude
- Jun 12 2012, 02:30:40 PM
I'm using 3.64. Maybe if I try 3.63....[/quote]I'm using 3.64, so it's not that. :\- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: recorderdude on June 12, 2012, 02:48:57 PM- (http://i.imgur.com/NxXSN.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/eCeo8.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/XyCw7.png)
Nice game over screens, pirates. The first is an obvious (and poor) edit, but the second two were either stolen from someone on deviantart or the pirates wanted to terrify a few kids.
The music on all of them has to be stolen, though. Pirate devs would never put that much effort into it.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 12, 2012, 04:17:01 PM- Fun fact: according to what it says in Russian, Mario 3 is actually a demo version.
Oh, and how about Tomsoft's Death Caliber and Deer Hunter?
More fun facts: I've beaten Ben 10 today, actually. It appears nothing more than a boring beat-em-up with no more than two enemies on the screen, all using the same projectile (or dust, if you prefer), with all that repetitiveness mixed with very rare laser barriers and even more rare medkits. It's as boring as it's easy, actually, having about 10 stages with (sometimes) different backgrounds. As you beat the game, all you get is only one goddamn ending screen.
Yes, all Mario 3, 4 and Ben 10 appear to have the same author. Same cutscene style, same font for the main menu, and it even bears the same sound config menu! No idea who the said author might be, though...
- Quote:
Never trust the machine translators unless they give you several meanings of one word.
It's actually translated as "Mario 3: Around The World".- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: codeman38 on June 12, 2012, 10:29:20 PM- For the two Mario games, rename the files so they don't have Cyrillic characters. Kega doesn't like Unicode for some reason.
Edit: D'oh, I see recorderdude already mentioned that. In my defense, my eyes are tired...
- recorderdude
- Jun 12 2012, 02:48:57 PM
The music on all of them has to be stolen, though. Pirate devs would never put that much effort into it.[/quote]Yep. I found this a while back (edit: further up this very thread, in fact!), but they're all existing TFM Music Maker mods, heh.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Azathoth on June 12, 2012, 11:24:41 PM- Thanks for telling us about this update!
Looks like there's a few more new ones besides those; Spongebob Squarepants, Cars 2, Assassin's Creed (!), Spy Kids, etc.
Great!- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 13, 2012, 02:09:11 AM
- Azathoth
- Jun 12 2012, 11:24:41 PM
Looks like there's a few more new ones besides those; Spongebob Squarepants, Cars 2, Assassin's Creed (!), Spy Kids, etc.
Great![/quote]...all being in this (http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=8999074/) thread already.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: recorderdude on June 13, 2012, 02:37:15 AM- Took the time to beat mario 4 tonight. The ending is nothing special, a few scenes of peach's castle with some russian text, press start and go back to the title screen.
The journey there is more interesting, though.
Of all the games, this steals most things from mario and luigi: partners in time! There's shroobs in it in over the course of the second world, a bunch of other enemies from it and the final (and only) boss is a giant fawful cannonball, likely from bowser's inside story.
Still hell to play and awful with controls, though.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 13, 2012, 03:11:30 AM- Some additional info on the discoveries.
Super Mario Bros. + Battle City
Well, pretty much, those are perfect ports of these games' NES countertypes. The reason why these are ports and not a proof that Kudos's henchmen have managed to make an 8-bit emulator on a 16-bit machine is... Okay, so once in a while you get to see the enemy tank trying to move off the level's boundaries: while it's first half is outside the level, the second one is still inside it. Apart from that bug, it is pretty much exactly the same thing as the original. And one of the few MD bootlegs I'd actually recommend for playing.
Death Caliber
First, I'd like you to count how many megabytes is this game's ROM big and compare this size to the other dumps of Tomsoft games. Second of all, the story centers around the 9/11 incident, where we play as the American support forces against the Iraq terrorists... But what's really ironic is that in another Tomsoft game, Iraq War 2003, we appearantly played against the Americans defending Iraq and cities nearby it. What's even more ironic is that while IW2003 was released exclusively in Engrish, DC has text in the same kind of Russheng that Commandos has.
So, it appears that DC has three modes literally translated to English as Game (a.k.a. story mode), Death Match (a. k. a. shoot-him-in-the-head) and Exercise (a. k. a. training mode). Death Match mode is nothing really spectacular: you pick one of two cannon fodder guys and make a headshot on him. The worst part of this mode is that during the 3-2-1-OK count, you can't see your cursor moving to the window with your opponent if you do so.
But wait, there's a worse problem: the cursor in all modes moves not only too fast but it appearantly doesn't want to be updated for about 5% of one freaking second. Which is more noticeable during the Game mode, where it moves like in a DVD port of Mad Dog McCree 2: The Lost Gold, and even it has more responsible controls than DC, to be honest.
Talking about the Game, you have to choose between two characters: Lora Crobt [oh yes, it's so sic!] and a guy from Birmingham with an obviously Chinese name, Zdangh Long, but it doesn't make any impact on the gameplay itself, appearantly. After you choose your difficulty (LEGKO, SLEDNE [sic again, it should have been SRENDE] and SLOZHNO), you will be brought to the first stage... where it's obligatory to wait for 20 seconds before you're surrounded by hordes (I can't even describe it better) of terrorist motherfuckers. That don't even look like they're from Iraq, although the graphics might have been ripped from Lethal Enforcers or something, I dunno.
Okay, now tell me, why I and everyone else who will play this piece of crap have to wait for 20 seconds for the enemies to appear when the actual stage starts? I mean, every freaking time it starts. :pandamad: And why I literally get in the jeopardy and no one even dares to gimme a medkit or even a mere bulletproof vest?
So if you're looking a MegaDrive game which has no high vector counts, no complicated raytracing, no extraterresial methods of data depacking and yet barely manages to squeeze 6 FPS out of itself, then look no more. And you'd better go play their Commandos.
Deer Hunter
Or, as the Russheng title kindly puts it, The Hunter Deer.
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/4024/574919-17game_1_large.jpg)
...that has nothing to do with Deer Avenger though.
I can't say how much this game is accurate to the original because not only I've never played it, but the deer hunting simulators are pretty much a badly-famed genre. All I can say is that it includes several locations for hunting, as well as the training area. As soon as you start the game itself, you'll be shown a map where you are marked as the cross inside the circle and the deers are marked with the free-roaming crosses. Spot the deer, click on "Start Hunting", and you'll be brought to...
Loading screen. Which, like in case with DC, loads absolutely nothing but annoys you like hell.
Only after that useless POS progress bar you'll be brought to the first-person mode, which scrolls exactly like its' Iraq War 2003, but, considering the slow pace of Deer Hunter, it's perfectly acceptable this time.
Tanks Classic and Tanks 2011
So yes, it exploits the above Battle City engine mentioned above, only with new assets. It also has three difficulty levels (Soldier, Veteran and Hero) and two map packs, Quest (all new maps with custom tilesets) and Arcade (original Battle City maps).
But that was the hack by Simba's. Kudos has one of its' own, called Tanks 2011. Not only it rips off the title screen from a cell phone game named Tanchiki, but it also uses the same HQ design as King Tank by Gamtec did. I'll also mention it's more unplayable unlike the above hack thanks to the pallette from which you can't tell whether your tank has shield activated or not. Although, other than that, I have no complaints to the visual part. Oh, and this game has only one map pack.
P. S. There might be an actual NES Battle City hack that uses similar map design ideas: Tanks 2 by TIM007.
Pirates of the Carribean 4: On Stranger Tides
The game starts with two options: Jack Sparrow and The Crew. That would make a perfect name for a band, huh? But while these options' names don't make any sense at first, they will. Later on. Because you cannot unsee a fat Battle City clone!
Aye aye carumba, it's BattleCityCoast! Which tries to make money off the fourth PotC movie, which was neat in my opinion. Only with some more toys added in to make your life harder: you can shoot left and right rather than forward, you can crush into reefs, the fortresses keep firing all the damn time...
And it has a supposed storyline text every time you start a level. Not to mention I still didn't got past the first stage...
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Fighting Edition
Pretty much, I expected it to be a yet another crappy port which is, appearantly, based off a Super Nintendo game with the same name, but... But it actually controls great for a mecha/zoid fighting game. So I thought it might be worth of your attention.
Can't say anything about the sounds, however: I tried it out on my good ol' PDA.
Rick Dangerous
If Russian pirates can't make NES indie games to be sold, then they'll definitely give a try on MegaDrive! Uwol: Quest for Money and Rick Dangerous (not even talking about Sonic Megamix) only seem be the proof of that fact, which gets better day after day.
Домино (Dominoes)
Released by New Game. Includes characters' graphics ripped off Micro Machines. Other than that, it's a pretty simple game of dominoes, so there's no need to blame the controls, the graphics and such.
Шахматы (Chess)
Released by Padis, now known as Shedevr (which has nothing to do with the translation group of the same name). In the long-ago 1998. Haven't looked at it much but it appearantly includes some endgame study challenges alongside the regular game of chess.
- recorderdude
- Jun 13 2012, 02:37:15 AM
Still hell to play and awful with controls, though.[/quote]Yeah, it is, although they're a lot better than Sonic Jam 6's. Not to mention it's actually a standalone game unlike Super Mario Bros., which was a cheap hack of Squirrel King.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Azathoth on June 13, 2012, 06:33:49 AM
- Crash Nicker
- Jun 13 2012, 02:09:11 AM
...all being in this (http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=8999074/) thread already.[/quote]Yeah...which is just a 10 month old thread discussing an update to his site that was new 10 months ago. Those games I mentioned have been newly added since then and have not been discussed or brought up on this forum.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 13, 2012, 06:38:10 AM
- Azathoth
- Jun 13 2012, 06:33:49 AM
- Crash Nicker
- Jun 13 2012, 02:09:11 AM
...all being in this (http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=8999074/) thread already.[/quote]Yeah...which is just a 10 month old thread discussing an update to his site that was new 10 months ago. Those games I mentioned have been newly added since then and have not been discussed or brought up on this forum.[/quote]Oopsy. My mistake then. Sorry.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Azathoth on June 13, 2012, 07:09:34 AM
- Crash Nicker
- Jun 13 2012, 06:38:10 AM
Oopsy. My mistake then. Sorry.[/quote]You should come by more often! Several of those dumps originated by members of this very forum. MMPR was graciously lent out for dumping by Barver last year.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 13, 2012, 07:16:09 AM
- Azathoth
- Jun 13 2012, 07:09:34 AM
You should come by more often! Several of those dumps originated by members of this very forum. MMPR was graciously lent out for dumping by Barver last year. [/quote]The thing is, I was busy with the studies so much that I didn't had time to come here, so...- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Pepper-98 on June 13, 2012, 08:16:36 AM
- recorderdude
- Jun 12 2012, 02:48:57 PM
Nice game over screens, pirates. The first is an obvious (and poor) edit, but the second two were either stolen from someone on deviantart or the pirates wanted to terrify a few kids.[/quote]Aren't these games actually homebrews stuffed into a cartridge? I've never seen pirates be crude like that before. That's something only an immature amateur game designer would do. Or someone who can't spell "amateur". Ahem.
I'd try these games out myself, but I think the video of Mario Galaxy from a previous thread said more than enough for me.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 13, 2012, 10:24:34 AM
- Qiezei
- Jun 13 2012, 08:16:36 AM
I've never seen pirates be crude like that before.[/quote]Psst! Lion King 5...- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Pepper-98 on June 13, 2012, 06:17:17 PM
- Crash Nicker
- Jun 13 2012, 10:24:34 AM
- Qiezei
- Jun 13 2012, 08:16:36 AM
I've never seen pirates be crude like that before.[/quote]Psst! Lion King 5...[/quote]What exactly was in that game? I don't remember much from it. :huh:
And holy good god why is my internet acting up for the umpteenth time?- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Azathoth on June 14, 2012, 04:10:29 AM
- Crash Nicker
- Jun 12 2012, 04:17:01 PM
Same cutscene style, same font for the main menu, and it even bears the same sound config menu![/quote]Could you translate the sound config menu for the two Mario games?
The reason I ask is one guy that owns one of the Mario carts mentioned that it had an option to flip something off or on that was hardware dependent on which clone system you owned.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 14, 2012, 04:21:41 AM
- Quote:
I guess this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuSgevd1EwY) may ring a bell.
Lion King 3 had the same level of violence... Maybe a bit less since GO screens are unanimated.
- Quote:
It works alright for Ben 10 and Mario 4 but appearantly resets in Mario 3's demo the dump of which we have.
So, you enter the options menu and press the A button to configure sound. Here what it says:
- Quote:
MUSIC: YES [NO]
MUSIC DRIVER: 1 [2]
SOUND 1: YES [NO]
SET THE SOUND SETTINGS ACCORDING TO YOUR GAME CONSOLE[/quote]
I might get along with the cutscene translations, too, as long as I get the ending of Mario 4... In the form of screenshots. Or video.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Azathoth on June 14, 2012, 05:12:27 AM- Thanks, it seems that was correct what the guy mentioned about the setting. I guess a 16-bit Sega clone exists with enhanced sound hardware?
Noticed today that Mario has the in game pause menu to spend coins on stuff, but unfortunately I never played long enough to buy anything.
On real hardware the game (3 & 4) crashes when you fall into a pit, is this the same on emulators?- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 14, 2012, 05:57:39 AM
- Azathoth
- Jun 14 2012, 05:12:27 AM
Thanks, it seems that was correct what the guy mentioned about the setting. I guess a 16-bit Sega clone exists with enhanced sound hardware?
On real hardware the game (3 & 4) crashes when you fall into a pit, is this the same on emulators?[/quote]I guess not. ZX Spectrum was, to my knowledge, upgraded sound-wise, but that's all thanks to the fans. I doubt pirates would like to add more channels to the console that already generates hell-a-ton of sounds per second.
And no, it's actually supposed to bring you back to the beginning of the stage.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Pepper-98 on June 14, 2012, 08:27:06 AM
- Crash Nicker
- Jun 14 2012, 04:21:41 AM
- Quote:
I guess this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuSgevd1EwY) may ring a bell.[/quote].................................................
...Statement retracted.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 14, 2012, 10:40:55 AM- Okay, so, is anyone willing to go through Mario 4 again and make the ending? I'm going to screw through Ben 10 meanwhile...
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Post by: recorderdude on June 14, 2012, 12:18:51 PM- I have a full playthrough recorded. Do you just want the ending or do you wanna see the boss too?
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Post by: brightentayle on June 14, 2012, 01:25:10 PM- Probably the both, out of curiosity.
Hell yeah, now I've got some proof that Death Caliber was released by Glory Sun!
- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: recorderdude on June 14, 2012, 02:06:20 PM- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKA7TMhS5Fo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKA7TMhS5Fo&feature=youtu.be)
Boss beat @ 2:54- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Rapid_Fire on June 14, 2012, 02:28:44 PM- Another bad game release by the same comprany that made Ben 10, "TMNT Возвращение легенды", same style of game as Ben 10, 2 enemies per round, pretty boring.
Spoiler: click to toggle
Download (http://rufiles.narod.ru) (http://rufiles.narod.ru/new/TMNT.7z)
PS: Are you sure that Death Caliber was made by Glorysun?. All the games for Glorysun that i've played always have the logo of it in the beginning of the games. but this one doesn't says anything.
Cheers- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 14, 2012, 02:35:06 PM
- Rapid_Fire
- Jun 14 2012, 02:28:44 PM
Are you sure that Death Caliber was made by Glorysun?. All the games for Glorysun that i've played always have the logo of it in the beginning of the games. but this one doesn't says anything.[/quote]DEAD SURE.
I mean, you just might not be cautionous enough to not get this logo in sight. Like, two times, and both are in the beginning of the video.
And well, it was published, not made by Glory Sun. TomSoft did the job on making the game.
- recorderdude
- Jun 14 2012, 02:06:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKA7TMhS5Fo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKA7TMhS5Fo&feature=youtu.be)
Boss beat @ 2:54[/quote]So, ladies and gentlemen, with this achievement, for the first time ever, the English text translation o-o-o-o-o-ooofff... Mario 4: Space Oddysey!
Intro.
- Quote:
But then their attention was caught by the star that fell behind the mushroom hill. Mario and Luigi quickly went there.
As they came closer, they found out that it wasn't a star but rather a spaceship.
The creature inside it said that their galaxy is in danger.
If Mario, [useless comma here! - nix.] won't stop the galactic conqueror and his army, their [useless plural world here! - nix.] Mushroom Kingdom will also be doomed.[/quote]
Ending.
- Quote:
So, as you can see, nothing really spectacular here. Ben 10 had the storyline as boring as this one. And I don't even doubt that TMNT: The Legend Returns will feature anything better.
Also, BOMBER (http://rufiles.narod.ru/new/Bomber.7z).
(http://rufiles.narod.ru/img/bomber_1.gif)
By TecToy.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Rapid_Fire on June 14, 2012, 03:30:01 PM
- Crash Nicker
And well, it was published, not made by Glory Sun. TomSoft did the job on making the game.[/quote]
What tupid i was!, looking better the video i saw Glory Sun Words on the top of the practice room :P
- Crash Nicker
(http://rufiles.narod.ru/img/bomber_1.gif)[/quote]
Pretty fun game i must say, it's like a bomberman (NES) style with the difference that your enemies also drop bombs like you, you can gain power ups that let you drop more bombs, run more faster, or push de bombs away from you, definitely more fun than Mario, Ben 10 and that other craps.
Cheers- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 14, 2012, 03:41:51 PM
- Rapid_Fire
- Jun 14 2012, 03:30:01 PM
Pretty fun game i must say, it's like a bomberman (NES) style with the difference that your enemies also drop bombs like you, you can gain power ups that let you drop more bombs, run more faster, or push de bombs away from you, definitely more fun than Mario, Ben 10 and that other craps.[/quote]Well, I'll give TecToy a credit, at least they can make neat games sometimes. Not to mention they were the guys (or the guy, because the entire game was ported by one person) who moved Duke Nukem 3D to MegaDrive. Yes, it was crap, but in some cases (some of them), definitely better than Zero Tolerance.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Rapid_Fire on June 15, 2012, 12:12:25 PM- Yeah, i think that Duke Nukem 3D on Sega wasn't that bad at all considering the hardware of the Genesis. Anyway, i was looking for some info of Biohazard 3 on Genesis, and i found this
Cart PicSpoiler: click to toggle
Info: (translated with Google translator)
The manufacturer: China
Product Group: Ink Cartridge 16-bit
Description: Cartridge for Sega Biohazard 3 (Russian version)
Our heroes have to find the source of the virus and destroy hordes of mutants, to get to the secret lab to deliver humanity from the deadly threat. You must help them!.
I wonder if this game it's just a lazy hack, or an orignal made game. ¿Have someone seen pictures of this game?
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Post by: Awesome Panda on June 15, 2012, 12:41:30 PM- Judging by the name and description, I'm guessing it's a hack of Biohazard Battle. Seems odd that the cart doesn't have a bit missing from the side like other pirate carts (and Japanese ones) do.
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Post by: Pepper-98 on June 15, 2012, 01:02:59 PM- Bomber wasn't too bad, though the sound was. And wow, the final boss of Mario Galaxy is lazily made. It's like something programmed out of a Game Maker project and animated in MS Paint.
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Post by: Rapid_Fire on June 15, 2012, 02:41:10 PM
- Awesome Panda
- Jun 15 2012, 12:41:30 PM
Judging by the name and description, I'm guessing it's a hack of Biohazard Battle. Seems odd that the cart doesn't have a bit missing from the side like other pirate carts (and Japanese ones) do.[/quote]
Yeah, it's probaly that it's just a tittle hack screen game. As for the cart, down the russian words it says "Resident Evil Fan", and down that looks like there's a website written but i cant read what it says :\
- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Azathoth on June 15, 2012, 05:12:59 PM- Hmm... I was told today by Raistlin that RE3 is a hack of Body Count. This may or may not be correct, but there's a very good chance it is. Attached is a pic of the back of the RE3 box.
Is there a ROM or some screenshots available for "TMNT Возвращение легенды"? I had never heard of it before.
Attachments:
- imag0184ea.jpg (163.07 KB) (http://b3.ifrm.com/30023/163/0/p1132581/imag0184ea.jpg)
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Post by: Rapid_Fire on June 15, 2012, 05:27:11 PM- What a liars showing you that pictures that belong to the real Res 3, but what a shame that it's just a hack of another game, whatever this may be :\
- Azathoth
I'm going to quote myself in this one :lol:
- Quote:
Download (http://rufiles.narod.ru) (http://rufiles.narod.ru/new/TMNT.7z)[/quote]
Cheers- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 19, 2012, 03:02:39 AM- Okay, let's put the Glory Sun "incident" into perspective. So it appears that they have published Death Caliber and Final Fantasy (which is really Barver Battle Saga, of course) in Russian, with one of the games was made by TomSoft. Not to mention that TomSoft has also released Commandos, and also in Russian.
The question is: was Commandos also published by these guys? Considering that its' review in the Great Dragon mag was made in 2003 and the only source (BootlegGames Wiki, indeed :pandahappy: ) indicates that Glory Sun became inactive in 2002...
Would it be that Commandos is one of the last games published by this company? Or not?- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: taizou on June 19, 2012, 08:18:10 AM- I have no idea about the publisher, but just a quick note on the developers of these games - TomSoft text in the ROM doesn't necessarily mean TomSoft (Tommy Xie) was personally involved, he made a dev kit which could have been used by any number of companies. I think Death Caliber at least was developed by Hummer Software, which was kind of the successor to Dragon Co., maybe they made some of the other stuff too.
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Post by: brightentayle on June 19, 2012, 09:36:17 AM
- taizou
- Jun 19 2012, 08:18:10 AM
I have no idea about the publisher, but just a quick note on the developers of these games - TomSoft text in the ROM doesn't necessarily mean TomSoft (Tommy Xie) was personally involved, he made a dev kit which could have been used by any number of companies. I think Death Caliber at least was developed by Hummer Software, which was kind of the successor to Dragon Co., maybe they made some of the other stuff too.[/quote]So, that means Hummer may be actually involved in that? O_o
I guess it's time to do a double-check.
No-uh, Hummer never ever made games for MegaDrive, so that variant simply drops off.
So all I can guess here out so far is either TomSoft or Glory Sun itself. I still have the feeling that it actually was the first... Or probably the remains of Dragon Co. Judge yourself:Ye-e-e-e-e-eah, that's a conspiracy theory going around here... :pandaaway: It may be also possible, actually, that Li Meng just got drafted from one team to another and the fact he had to "make music" under a Tommy Xie's SDK may be a pure coincidence... Despite they work for the same publisher.
- None of those games (Pikachu 2, Pokemon Crazy Drummer, Harry Potter, Commandos, Death Caliber, Deer Hunter and so on) relied on actual chip sounds and music, only PCMs (despite the SDK actually had an actual MIDI converter!).
- Three of them have really spooked-up Russhen, which just CAN'T be confused with anything else. It doesn't even look like a machine translation, to be honest, it's more like whoever did the texts for this game appearantly KNOWS Russian, but not even close enough to the proper one (most of the Chinese, as far as I know, have really hard time understanding Russian).
- Commandos, which is released in Russhen, has Li Meng mentioned in credits as a music composer despite it obviously doesn't feature any tunes by him.
- Li Meng was mentioned in Lion King 3 and Felix the Cat credits, also as a music composer.
Although that makes me wonder then. Who is that mysterious Da Ne the programmer in Commandos' credits?- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: taizou on June 21, 2012, 02:37:48 PM- well I should say Hummer Software doesn't have anything to do with Hummer Cheng or Hummer Team (as far as I know).. the name in Chinese was different. (Hummer Software's name is the Chinese for "hummingbird", Hummer Team's is a Chinese transcription of "Hummer") But Hummer Software was definitely the successor to Dragon Co, Tommy Xie himself confirmed that.
also, they definitely made Death Caliber, it was on their website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070122023003/http://www.hummersoftware.com/video.asp (http://web.archive.org/web/20070122023003/http://www.hummersoftware.com/video.asp)
if you check the list on the right hand side, it seems to confirm they made Commandos, Deer Hunter & Harry Potter too. Not everything on that page is Mega Drive though, some are for the EMG10XX series, which was a chip used for plug and play consoles.
Hummer Soft was bought out by Prescope of Taiwan and renamed "Promexus", but both Prescope & Promexus' websites seem to be down now, so I'm not sure if they're still in business... but they made these three consoles, which were sold in Russia by Sharky I guess:
http://www.sharky-game.ru/console/13/ (http://www.sharky-game.ru/console/13/)
http://www.sharky-game.ru/console/14/ (http://www.sharky-game.ru/console/14/)
http://www.sharky-game.ru/console/15/ (http://www.sharky-game.ru/console/15/)
oh and there are some other Mega Drive games listed on that site that I've never seen (no pics though):
红楼梦 (Dream of the Red Chamber) (http://web.archive.org/web/20080328081746/http://www.hummersoftware.com/showvideo.asp?video_id=24) - the description says this one is a board game + RPG + "cultivation" (dunno how to translate that) hybrid
卡拉OK (Karaoke) (http://web.archive.org/web/20080324120538/http://www.hummersoftware.com/showvideo.asp?video_id=26)
世界板球 (World Cricket) (http://web.archive.org/web/20080324120604/http://www.hummersoftware.com/showvideo.asp?video_id=33)- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 21, 2012, 04:10:30 PM- It may be that Li Meng decided to work for HS then. Well, considering that I can't read Chinese, nor I can watch the videos due to the site being down, I'm definitely missing a lot here...
Fixed the Death Caliber video description. Might fix some articles on the wiki regarding them... as soon as I get a damn sleep.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 23, 2012, 05:41:58 AM- Okay, I've just figured out one little thing... If Commandos was released by Hummer Software, then may it be that Tommy Xie was a part of it? After all, Commandos and Command & Conquer Beta have the programming a bit too similar to be made by different coders (Da Ne for Commandos, Tommy Xie for C&C, see the below paragraph to see why). Did you noticed that the cursor actually scrolls on the same speed and that the more sprites you have on the screen, the more it lags? Yes, in both games.
After all, Wikipedia lists Tommy Xie as an uncertain "Chinese fan" with a dead link reference, which brings us to... The screenshots showing a more developed beta of this game which includes Tiberium and separate GDI and Nod sides!- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Azathoth on June 25, 2012, 05:00:06 PM- I waited all these years and Biohazard 3 is a hack of fucking Body Count!?!?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsrMnVIcGM&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsrMnVIcGM&feature=player_embedded)
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: brightentayle on June 26, 2012, 02:17:02 AM
- Azathoth
- Jun 25 2012, 05:00:06 PM
I waited all these years and Biohazard 3 is a hack of fucking Body Count!?!?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsrMnVIcGM&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsrMnVIcGM&feature=player_embedded)
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU[/quote]SARS war?!
What the hell should that mean?..
And I'm already guessing the Russian text in this game is gonna be bad, cos' in case with Glory Sun, it's inevitable. Since the string "Russia" should actually say "Russian"...- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Azathoth on June 26, 2012, 05:44:14 AM- I just knew this was going to be a Glorysun game. Too bad it isn't something more original.
With this soon to be dumped and Soul Edge VS Samurai Spirits available it seems most of the big Mega Drive mysteries I've followed for a while are solved.
Well, with the exception of Sonic Shuffle. Hopefully something undiscovered may present itself. I didn't know anything about Street Fighter II: 18 Person until I ran across that cart a while back, and although it's nothing groundbreaking I guess it proves there is still stuff out there that's 15+ years old that's undocumented.- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Rapid_Fire on June 28, 2012, 12:25:52 PM
- Crash Nicker
What the hell should that mean?..[/quote]
When i read that words the first time i was like O_o, but then searching in internet i found this:
Sars Wars (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0470402/) :lol:
Anyway, ¿anyone knows which company did Sonic Shuffle?, ¿is there's any cart available anywhere?
Cheers
- Title: Confirmation of unknown Sega Genesis / Mega Drive pirates
Post by: Denymetanol on July 26, 2012, 08:07:02 PM- These BODYCOUNThazard seems one screen edit and zero imagination, hehehe....... interesting thread, thanks for share these discovers ;-)