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Pirate Discussion => Mega Drive/Genesis => Topic started by: Papa Smurf on June 09, 2013, 05:01:39 PM

Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Papa Smurf on June 09, 2013, 05:01:39 PM
Hey All,

I was refered to this site for help with dumping and\or making sense of the data I've dumped
from a chinese pirate I bought that from what I can gather is currently not dumped to the public.
The game is gunfight 3in1 which is 3 justifier compatible lightgun games on one cart. The games
are a whack-a-mole game, T2 The Arcade Game & some star shooting game. The T2 is the gem
of the cart as it has lightgun support where as the original retail release did not. They all seem
to use the same engine with different gameplay (obviously). I've tried to dump it using a sega cd
and dump cable but the binary it outputs is not in a working state. I believe it must be some sort
of copy protection keeping it from being dumped properly with this method. A friend of mine looked
at the code quickly and he thinks it's using some sort of primative bankswitching and possibly is making
ram writes before initializing the banking routine from the rom data. I dumped it as a 32meg binary and
it what does dump seems to repeat 3 times over, weather or not that is just the 3 blocks of data for
the games or a loop it's stuck in while dumping I don't know and hope someone here does.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/long_shawn_silver/3in1pcb_zps76ee74c5.jpg)

 The pcb has 2 epoxy globs I should mention also. I've tried all I'm able to do with my own know how
and I've reached a wall. I'm hoping someone here can help me free this game from it's epoxy prison :)

I have scans of the pcb attached and the binary that I've made I'm willing to email to anyone that can
help me out here and in the end with success the goal will be to share a working binary of this game
for everyone to enjoy be it in emulation or on real hardware.  I have a programmer that can support chips
up to 16bit 27c322 so if there is an option to wire the pcb up to the programmer to dumpit I would be willing
to try such a method. I spent alot on this cart but will do so for the greater good :)

Please reply and or PM me here if your able to help me get this done.

Cheers & Thanks,
Shawn
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: casperdj777 on June 10, 2013, 08:04:08 AM
bump*
would like to see this dumped also.
can you post some screen shots of the game play or make a video of the game play? would loveeee to see it.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Papa Smurf on June 10, 2013, 11:06:37 AM
Sure thing.
Here is a quick shot of the game select screen.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/long_shawn_silver/gunfight3in1s5_zps9b73880f.jpg)
and here is a youtube video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qV3jRWQ_ruc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qV3jRWQ_ruc)
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: taizou on June 10, 2013, 03:03:18 PM
anyone know what that music is in the first game in the video? it sounds *really* familiar but I can't place it.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Awesome Panda on June 10, 2013, 03:51:18 PM
I recognise it from 2DMMAPS but I'm pretty sure that's not the original source. :P
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: codeman38 on June 10, 2013, 10:01:21 PM
It's the Chocobo theme from Final Fantasy!
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: taizou on June 11, 2013, 08:53:51 AM
oh, so it is - thanks!
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Papa Smurf on June 11, 2013, 11:57:57 PM
dump is being fixed, currently 2 out of 3 games work and the 3rd is getting a bug fix but this game will be freed to the masses very soon!
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Robyn on June 12, 2013, 07:09:09 PM
Woo! Looking forward to it being completely playable. :)
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Azathoth on June 13, 2013, 02:32:36 AM
It still blows my mind this thing supports the Justifier. Has anyone even seen a Chinese/Russian Justifer knockoff? I've seen a few guns packaged in with FC/MD combo systems, but the gun always only works on the MD side.

I'm glad to see Mr. Smurf saved this thing from obscurity and is wanting to get it out there. I remember us talking about that from an auction site a while ago and figured it was pretty much lost for good.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Papa Smurf on June 15, 2013, 01:07:59 AM
Azathoth
Jun 13 2013, 02:32:36 AM
It still blows my mind this thing supports the Justifier. Has anyone even seen a Chinese/Russian Justifer knockoff? I've seen a few guns packaged in with FC/MD combo systems, but the gun always only works on the MD side.

I'm glad to see Mr. Smurf saved this thing from obscurity and is wanting to get it out there. I remember us talking about that from an auction site a while ago and figured it was pretty much lost for good.[/quote]Ya I talked off and on with the guy for a good month or two before getting it bought and in my hands.
Paid a small fortune for it but well worth it. And as for the 3rd party Justifier guns ya I've had a couple
different ones in my time. Currently the one I have that is CIB is made by top player and is called the purifier.
I've also had an orange one called the punisher. The odd names are where the Konami ones have Justifer
on them. I'll get you some pics and email them to you.

EDIT: There is another fake justifier called the pursuer too. I think that one is black and has a red start button IIRC.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: lasermaniac on June 18, 2013, 02:53:52 AM
i have read that genesis plus gx supports this game, but can it be downloaded? i have searched and didnt found any link in the net.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Azathoth on June 19, 2013, 08:27:27 PM
The protection routines have been documented and implemented in those emulators, but the ROM itself has not been patched fully to work on things other than those 2 emulators. I'm sure Papa Smurf will let us know when he decides to make the game public.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Papa Smurf on June 21, 2013, 06:07:42 PM
Azathoth
Jun 19 2013, 08:27:27 PM
The protection routines have been documented and implemented in those emulators, but the ROM itself has not been patched fully to work on things other than those 2 emulators. I'm sure Papa Smurf will let us know when he decides to make the game public.[/quote]I will release the game to the public as soon as the bug preventing one of the three games
from playing right is fixed and working properly on real hardware. My personal focus is the
ability to play games on real carts with real consoles but I do 100 percent support play via
emulation also. Alas real hardware does come first and untill it works on the real thing
without error I will withhold the binary. I'm not releasing something that is half-assed.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: etabeta78 on June 22, 2013, 02:43:16 AM
Quote:
 
I will release the game to the public as soon as the bug preventing one of the three games
from playing right is fixed and working properly on real hardware. [/quote]

would you mind expanding about this? if you have the cart, that should work already on the real hardware...
or do you mean working on a copier without the protection?

if you mean the latter, you should release the proper dump (or that + a fixed version), not only a patched version that works on copier after destroying the protection routines.
please consider releasing both dumps, in order to document what was in the real cart too :)
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Papa Smurf on June 23, 2013, 09:33:31 PM
etabeta78
Jun 22 2013, 02:43:16 AM
Quote:
 
I will release the game to the public as soon as the bug preventing one of the three games
from playing right is fixed and working properly on real hardware. [/quote]

would you mind expanding about this? if you have the cart, that should work already on the real hardware...
or do you mean working on a copier without the protection?

if you mean the latter, you should release the proper dump (or that + a fixed version), not only a patched version that works on copier after destroying the protection routines.
please consider releasing both dumps, in order to document what was in the real cart too :)[/quote]I don't mean for use on a flash cart,ect. I mean to work on real hardware with sega genesis pcb's and an eprom.
I can share the unmodified dump which does not work on real hardware or via emulation if the public wants that
version of the data also but it will be at the same time as the fulling working version is released.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: etabeta78 on June 24, 2013, 01:43:16 AM
well, my opinion is that sharing both dumps would be the best choice.

anyway, take all the time you need, of course :)
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Azathoth on June 25, 2013, 01:07:51 AM
Does this game support the Menacer?

I don't own a Menacer to test it, and I'm not sure if the Menacer is emulated in any emu's. It would be absolutely insane if it did, being that the Menacer is only compatible with a whopping *two* games (and one of them was bundled with it), and I don't know if it was even released outside of the North American or European market.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Papa Smurf on June 26, 2013, 07:14:56 PM
I don't know if it can use the menacer or not. I don't own one as I find it to be one of the worst lightguns ever made.
Oh and the 3rd game is now booting for those intrested in a progress report. It's working perfectly on normal and hard but there is a small hang on the easy difficulty after clearing the first level that makes it hang before the second level starts so that one little hicup is all thats left and then the untouched and patched versions will be ready to share with the world :)
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Papa Smurf on June 28, 2013, 10:42:12 PM
binary now posted in the dumps forum:
http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=9906990/1/?x=0 (http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums?topic=9906990/1/?x=0)
Oh and I am making some carts of this game so if your looking to get this on a cart
with a nice looking label shoot me a PM and I'll hook you up for $30 shipped to the
USA or Canada. Will do worldwide too but you gotta foot the difference in shipping.
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: casperdj777 on June 29, 2013, 03:09:20 PM
it didn't look like it worked with  Menacer
Title: Gunfight 3in1 chinese pirate
Post by: Papa Smurf on June 29, 2013, 10:24:32 PM
casperdj777
Jun 29 2013, 03:09:20 PM
it didn't look like it worked with  Menacer[/quote]All 3 games use the Konami Justifier gun. Besides the Menacer is a POS compaired to the Justifier anyhow.