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« Reply #60 on: January 05, 2011, 11:17:39 PM »
taizou
Jan 5 2011, 06:33:52 PM
on a completely unrelated note this is one of the games from the Wow: http://twitpic.com/3ncfkp
you have to pick up the blocks and throw them around to make lines. Jungletac made something similar, so I assume both games are clones of something else - anyone know what it is?[/quote]Check out "Araiguma Rascal" for Super Famicom. It's not quite the same thing (the object is to connect three rather than fill a line), but it's very similar.

Of course, I'm not sure if that is actually based on something prior...

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« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2011, 07:33:48 AM »
ooh. theres actually another game on the Wow that looks pretty much identical to Araiguma Rascal (its called Rascal, so maybe I should have guessed). you can only play as the boy, the controls suck and the music is from Castlevania, but otherwise its the same thing. so I guess Strong Builder (the one in the screenshot, i didn't mention its name) and Dangerous Zone must be clones of something else, unless it was actually Jungletac's original (ish) creation.

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« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2011, 10:50:28 AM »
new one at CES, from Timetop (makers of the Game King):
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/07/wii-clone-has-a-built-in-metal-slug-clone/
it does seem to have actual motion controls though, even a sensor bar.

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« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2011, 11:18:23 AM »
Looking at the Game King, Timetop put more effort into making their games than Nice Code or JungleTac IMO. Is there a name for that clone, BTW?

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« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2011, 12:03:13 PM »
their website just calls it the GM609. but then that page is clearly listing the specifications for the wrong product since it mentions an LCD screen and a camera among other things.

there are some tiny screenshots of their games here, and yeah, they do look better than the usual crap. itll be interesting to see if this takes off, or if it ends up just being too expensive for a clone..

edit: better screens on the chinese site, you can even download the games. as far as I can work out these are actually for some Konka TV that Timetop released a controller for, so i'm not sure if theyre the same versions that will be built into the actual console.. but if they are, some of them look pretty damn impressive for a Wii clone, like the baseball and golf.
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« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2011, 12:29:40 PM »
If you can download the games, then how the hell are you supposed to play them? :huh:

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« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2011, 12:32:45 PM »
well you need that Konka TV, presumably it has a USB port or SD reader or something.

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« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2011, 09:59:50 PM »
Apparently the files are Linux executables to be run on a MIPS processor.

Of course, trying to run this would require not only knowing the processor, but likely also what sort of video, sound, etc., device the machine has (since they're probably framebuffer apps rather than X11). That, and knowing what libraries the game is linked against...

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« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2011, 09:53:47 PM »
i admit i'm like 90% ignorant of all things Linux, but its interesting to know Konka's TVs at least are running it rather than some closed proprietary system. if Timetop's actual console is the same (i'm not particularly optimistic, itll probably run on something else entirely and just have games built-in, but who knows), coupled with those reasonably decent looking games they might even have a minor hit on their hands. If its cheap.

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« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2011, 12:40:00 PM »
Well, it definitely looks miles better than anything Qi Sheng Long have ever made at least. Also, I don't know much about hacking newer consoles to put OS' on them but if the games run on Linux technology then wouldn't it be possible to run Linux itself off the console? I doubt it but that'd be awesome if it were the case. (presumably at least, having never used Linux)

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« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2011, 01:34:19 PM »
well I guess it's possible, the TV must be already running some kind of Linux based OS. but remember these games are all only for the TV as far as I can tell, which is its own thing. we basically know nothing about the actual console so far thanks to timetop's crap website (I found it on Eittek's website too but they just copied the same wrong specifications from Timetop) - the console might run something completely different. it might not even have any kind of user accessible storage.
hmm. well it seems like timetop has actually completely redesigned its website since I posted those links to it two days ago. the new one is kinda broken, it still has the wrong specifications for the console, but there does seem to be a name for it now - you can sort of make it out in this photo - Allinone Family? or something.
well I managed to get one of these on the cheap, thanks to ebay. it seems to be made by Unicorn Manufacturing but I still have no idea who developed the games. its thankfully very small and has in a box to match - Wii clones tend to come in massive boxes to accommodate all the crap accessories and the consoles themselves are oversized to make them look more "real", which tends to inflate the shipping cost and take up more room in my damn house. but theres none of that here. it doesnt even come with a second player controller or an AC adapter (and I can't even use them from some other console, since it doesnt seem to use the same IR controller standard as the iSports and Wow, or the same power standard as pretty much every Chinese/Taiwanese console since the very first famiclones copied it from the original Famicom. so its one player only and 4 AA batteries for now)

the games are pretty variable in quality but generally better than the stuff on the Wow. the obligatory Puzzle Bobble clone is just as blatant in its graphics thievery as the Wow's but plays way better, for example. only a few of the games actually use the motion control (its not like the others where you can basically use it as an A button replacement in anything, it seems to be a separate input) - the golf is pretty decent, but "Frisbee Challenge" lasts about two minutes. im still not sure if this thing actually has 3D capabilities, the game that looked like it had 3D backgrounds seems to be pre-rendered (theres lighting effects and anti-aliasing for one thing, i doubt it can do that) but the animations of the ball hitting the pins in the bowling game actually *do* look like theyre being rendered in real time, so I dunno.

i'm still waiting for my new video capture card but once it turns up i'll record some video and whatnot.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 07:11:12 PM by taizou »

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« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2011, 04:04:29 PM »
Actually, I just noticed in CVS today they were selling Zone 60s. They were manufactured by "Ultimate Products" in Shenzhen, China if that helps.

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« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2011, 04:13:09 PM »
KingPepe
Jan 11 2011, 04:04:29 PM
Actually, I just noticed in CVS today they were selling Zone 60s. They were manufactured by "Ultimate Products" in Shenzhen, China if that helps.[/quote]"Ultimate Products" is a British reseller that owns the "Zone" brand and imports consoles (and other gadgets) from various Chinese OEMs:
http://www.ultimate-products.co.uk/index.html

And the OEM they sourced the Zone 60 from is... Jungletac, of course! Not at all surprisingly, they're based out of Shenzhen.

Edit: In retrospect, I'm not sure the Zone 60 chassis is necessarily JungleTac's; they don't list any Wii clones on their site. But the software is definitely Jungletac, and the board is likely theirs as well.
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« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2011, 04:41:07 PM »
I'm amazed how many UK famiclone/Wii clone/etc importers are based somewhere near Manchester - Ultimate Products is in Oldham, Power Joy UK used to be in Stockport (where I live), the distributor of my 88 in 1 joystick is (was?) in Bury. and a couple more are in Blackburn, which isnt *too* far off. I never realised I was in such a hub of crap game console activity.
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Jan 12 2011, 04:13:09 PM
Edit: In retrospect, I'm not sure the Zone 60 chassis is necessarily JungleTac's; they don't list any Wii clones on their site. But the software is definitely Jungletac, and the board is likely theirs as well.[/quote]It still could be - their site hasnt been updated in a while. the Classic Max seems to be the newest thing on there, and thats from 2007 ish. The Vii isnt even listed. Ultimate Products do seem to get exclusive case designs for some of their Zones though - the 40 doesnt look like any other Subor console I've ever seen.
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« Reply #74 on: January 12, 2011, 05:22:14 PM »
taizou
Jan 12 2011, 04:41:07 PM
I'm amazed how many UK famiclone/Wii clone/etc importers are based somewhere near Manchester - Ultimate Products is in Oldham, Power Joy UK used to be in Stockport (where I live), the distributor of my 88 in 1 joystick is (was?) in Bury. and a couple more are in Blackburn, which isnt *too* far off. I never realised I was in such a hub of crap game console activity.[/quote]Speaking of that, there's also E-Cell who I found recently, that sells this mysterious handheld that blatantly rips off the PSP. I'd check this myself, but I somehow doubt it'd be worth £37. I guess you could also call Shenzhen a hub of those awful Wii clones as well, with JungleTac, Qi Sheng Long and all of those other companies.

I also just found yet another Wii clone called the Reactor 42, no doubt by the same people who did the Zone 40 and such. Just noticed that the American distributors of these are Midwest Trading Group Inc. in Addison, Illionis (I presume they distribute across the whole of the US and not just the Midwest) and searching on their website I couldn't find any Wii clones on there.