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Pirate Discussion => Famicom/NES => Famicom/NES dumps => Topic started by: Linkrulezall on October 08, 2011, 04:52:04 PM

Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Linkrulezall on October 08, 2011, 04:52:04 PM
CaH4e3 should recieve these soon, so I just figured I'd let you guys know what to expect. If you hadn't already seen the Games Xplosion, here's a series of videos showcasing the games. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFZ9yeS6984)

A few games from the 101-in-1 that aren't dumped yet are:

Space Destroyer Exploration - Space Shuttle by ABAB, with a different title screen. I'm willing to bet the original title is still somewhere in the tiles
Police Vs Thief, Space Base, Climbing, and a few others now come with a 2-player mode. Up for a netplay, anyone?
Hunter - Not a Duck Hunt hack, but a clone.
Jumping Fish - I believe this was on one of Taizou's powerjoy supermax carts.
Dringle - the Waixing puzzle game
Detonate - ANOTHER Bomberman 2004 clone
Contest 2004 - Game that just looks like a generic space shooter. I believe there was actually a contest with a cash prize involved at one point.
Fun Click - hack of Picaclick off the pokemon 4-in-1
Ghost Castle - clone of Saboteur for the Atari 2600
Antiquarium - A strange fishing game where you have to fish for various copyright infringements with VERY random bait (Credit Cards, Skulls, Toilet Paper, a Cat, an Apple, and a walkie-talkie)
Bicycle Race - I think it's a hack of Pole Position
Egg Contest - You control a rabbit running back and forth to catch eggs falling from a running chicken
Penta Base - Hack of Final Man with a pentagram.
Numbers, Addition, Crystals, Fruit, and a few others - AAARGH! MATH GAMES! IT BURNS!
Scuba Hunt - Remake of Buzz Bombers

There are probably a few other noteworthy games, but I can't remember them.

The games with a strikethrough were recently dumped on Taizou's Power Joy carts.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Ninja-Kun on October 08, 2011, 05:01:38 PM
Linkrulezall
Oct 8 2011, 04:52:04 PM
Police Vs Thief, Space Base, Climbing, and a few others now come with a 2-player mode. Up for a netplay, anyone?
[/quote]Just tell me how and when. Seriously.
Oh, and Bicycle Race is a hack of F-1 Race. Strange they included a hack of an old NES game instead of an original. They probably couldn't distinguish between original games and hacks.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Awesome Panda on October 08, 2011, 05:05:27 PM
Ninja-Kun
Oct 8 2011, 05:01:38 PM
Linkrulezall
Oct 8 2011, 04:52:04 PM
Police Vs Thief, Space Base, Climbing, and a few others now come with a 2-player mode. Up for a netplay, anyone?
[/quote]Just tell me how and when. Seriously.
Oh, and Bicycle Race is a hack of F-1 Race. Strange they included a hack of an old NES game instead of an original. They probably couldn't distinguish between original games and hacks.[/quote]Kalliera, presumably. ;)

Also, not to criticise Nice Code's work but if you can't tell the difference between one of their games and a real Famicom game, then you're probably blind. :rolleyes:
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: taizou on October 08, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
Well I dunno about blind. Maybe if you were deaf and you had no hands. Nice Code games usually have decent enough graphics - it was founded by an artist after all - just crap music and gameplay (some of their later ones for the VT03 are alright, but I suspect no one will believe me on that count until theyre dumped).
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Brn89 on October 09, 2011, 09:48:40 AM
Any of these games you want me to do videos of for Pirate Showcase, Linkrulezall? :P
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Linkrulezall on October 09, 2011, 12:01:25 PM
BrydoRX
Oct 9 2011, 09:48:40 AM
Any of these games you want me to do videos of for Pirate Showcase, Linkrulezall? :P[/quote]Hmm... I think the only one worth doing is the Space Shuttle hack. (chances are they were too lazy to erase the original title tiles, so maybe someone here can hack them in.) Also, I would kind of like to see Dringle and Hurry Burry, but those are already dumped.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: taizou on October 09, 2011, 12:14:10 PM
I'd say chances are they just overwrote the original tiles with the new title, so there won't be any trace of it in there.. But the original should be dumped from my Power Joy cart soon enough anyway :D (although possibly somewhat delayed because I'm an idiot and I put the wrong postcode on the package... ahem)
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Brn89 on October 10, 2011, 03:35:33 AM
Linkrulezall
 
Also, I would kind of like to see Dringle and Hurry Burry, but those are already dumped.[/quote]I've not heard of these games... where would I find their ROMs?
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Ninja-Kun on October 10, 2011, 08:44:45 AM
It's here: http://www.mediafire.com/?675buu2isdddi (http://www.mediafire.com/?675buu2isdddi) (courtesy of Taizou). I think those games are on the "wx-working.rar" file.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Brn89 on October 10, 2011, 11:20:02 AM
Oh, that. I've already got the folder downloaded :P
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Linkrulezall on November 05, 2011, 08:01:27 PM
Bad news and Good news, in the form of this email from CaH4e3:

dumped that tsop48 packaged chip famiclone, unfortunately, it seems
using some custom PPU data wiring or format, so it couldn't display
correct graphics even on the EmuVT emulator, it is possible to get it
working with no graphics, but this is not so helpful ;( will dump
another one as soon as find out how to desolder and connect to eprom
reader easily ;)

I believe he was referring to the Games Xplosion as the tsop48 packaged chip famiclone.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Linkrulezall on January 19, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
After much headache, and having to e-mail this to a few people, here's the link (http://www.mediafire.com/?s0atfdlxlm81rtj) to the Games Xplosion ROM with defective graphics. CaH4e3 also mentioned something about running UNIF on his latest FCEU build would get a few of the games working.

P.S. Sorry about the bump  :pandaaway:
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: codeman38 on January 19, 2012, 08:47:44 PM
Graphics in the Games Xplosion look like the bits are scrambled around - they've been reordered from 76543210 to 75310246.

Will have to look to see just how the CHR and PRG have been combined, because of course doing the same swap to the PRG will produce unrunnable code...

Edit: Here's a Python program to do the bit-swapping. (http://snipt.net/codeman38/reorder-bits-in-garbled-chr-rom?key=e318ce3fea8d0e6a8fcc1812c2f2084f) Have fun.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Linkrulezall on January 19, 2012, 10:01:21 PM
codeman38
Jan 19 2012, 08:47:44 PM
Edit: Here's a Python program to do the bit-swapping. (http://snipt.net/codeman38/reorder-bits-in-garbled-chr-rom?key=e318ce3fea8d0e6a8fcc1812c2f2084f) Have fun.[/quote]I'd hate to sound like a noob, but how exactly would I use this?

Code: HTML
 
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://snipt.net/embed/e318ce3fea8d0e6a8fcc1812c2f2084f"></script>
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Awesome Panda on January 20, 2012, 05:54:42 AM
codeman38
Jan 19 2012, 08:47:44 PM
Graphics in the Games Xplosion look like the bits are scrambled around - they've been reordered from 76543210 to 75310246.

Will have to look to see just how the CHR and PRG have been combined, because of course doing the same swap to the PRG will produce unrunnable code...

Edit: Here's a Python program to do the bit-swapping. (http://snipt.net/codeman38/reorder-bits-in-garbled-chr-rom?key=e318ce3fea8d0e6a8fcc1812c2f2084f) Have fun.[/quote]I might be wrong, but does that mean that graphics are in the wrong place or something? :\ I could probably fix it with a hex editor if that's the case.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: taizou on January 20, 2012, 01:33:59 PM
you need to install Python, save the script as a .py file and you can just drag the rom onto it to swap the byte order. Though even if you replaced all the graphics, most games seem to start up with either the wrong PRG, the wrong CHR or both... only a few load both correctly (Aether Captor is one I think)
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Awesome Panda on January 20, 2012, 01:53:46 PM
One thing I don't get is that the .bin version is 4MB whereas the other one is 8MB. :huh:
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: taizou on January 20, 2012, 02:59:33 PM
I guess the ROM is duplicated in the other one to make it work in fceu. if you actually look at the prg and chr files they're the same.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: codeman38 on January 20, 2012, 08:21:53 PM
Yeah, sorry about not actually including the converted file yesterday-- I should've just uploaded that and posted it along with the conversion script. My excuse is that I've been busy with my actual day job and upcoming move to another state...and tired as a result.

Anyway, here's the fixed .chr, for anyone who doesn't want to bother to install Python. http://fyels.com/6nz (http://fyels.com/6nz)
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Linkrulezall on January 20, 2012, 08:28:21 PM
The python script doesn't seem to work for me, and I did exactly what Taizou said.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Awesome Panda on January 20, 2012, 08:41:05 PM
Looking at the menu graphics, there's apparently an unused intro screen with a logo I can't make out and a message which I think says "Trifles make perfection". O_o
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: taizou on January 20, 2012, 10:01:57 PM
yeah, its the logo of Defender, a Russian company: http://www.eng.defender-global.com/products/game/electronics/ (http://www.eng.defender-global.com/products/game/electronics/)
I guess at some point they either distributed or planned to distribute this thing, and the logo is left over from their version.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: codeman38 on January 21, 2012, 12:57:18 AM
Good catch on Defender. I noticed that logo as well, but couldn't puzzle out how to arrange the tiles to make something intelligible. (Should've gone with my guess based on bits and pieces of the logo that I could make out...)
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Awesome Panda on January 21, 2012, 06:03:37 AM
taizou
Jan 20 2012, 10:01:57 PM
yeah, its the logo of Defender, a Russian company: http://www.eng.defender-global.com/products/game/electronics/ (http://www.eng.defender-global.com/products/game/electronics/)
I guess at some point they either distributed or planned to distribute this thing, and the logo is left over from their version.[/quote]Good to see I was right on the "Trifles make perfection" slogan. :lol:

Also, I bet there's a way to make that screen accessible through savestate hacking and the DreamGEAR 75 in 1, but FCEU's save state function seems to be buggered. >_<
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: dragon2snow on January 21, 2012, 09:00:37 PM
vt?
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: taizou on January 21, 2012, 09:04:57 PM
Yeah, its VT02 I think.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: Linkrulezall on February 18, 2012, 11:02:06 AM
Right, so now that Taizou has got Sky Zone ripped, there's only a few other games in the Games Xplosion that are worth ripping. By any chance, could someone rip:

-Fairy
-Interstellar
-Difference Picture
-Corsair
-Gem Game
-Pounce
-Beach Ball
-Ice Cap
-Dune War
-Eggs
-Cowpoke
-Mice Mission
-Bomb Time
-Indreak

These are the only games on this whole mess that are even REMOTELY worth ripping, IMO.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: taizou on February 18, 2012, 12:55:17 PM
I already ripped Mice Mission and some other stuff, see the "Games Xplosion" folder here: http://www.mediafire.com/?26afll20iwznk (http://www.mediafire.com/?26afll20iwznk)
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: RVVD4029 on February 19, 2015, 11:39:55 AM
I would like to make a quick note. The games will start up. However they either load a nice code game that has been dumped already. Or the correct games will load up but will show graphics. The graphics are either from another game or they are for the same game. However the graphics won't unscramble properly. The games will start up on the lastest version of fceux only.
Also the coolboy 400 in 1 console has title screen hacks of some of the games from the games xplosion already. Meanwhile the superarcade 110 in 1 i think also includes games from the same console.
Title: Games Xplosion 121-in-1 and DreamGear 101-in-1
Post by: RVVD4029 on May 21, 2015, 03:43:17 PM
Awesome panda i know it is not related but the sports game 69 in 1 contains unused graphics for it's menu screen.
Ninja kun i think the reason why they included a hack of f1 race is because they have a graphics hack of it on vt06 consoles only.