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codeman38:
I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this already on the RX Forums, but I figured it was worth repeating here because it's something I'm still quite curious about.

There is a game which is credited to Sintax called "Zhong Zhuan Qi Bing". More specifically, there's no in-game credit, but the ROM ID is "SINTAX MM V1007" - and since the game was inspired by the Famicom RPG "Metal Max", it seems like this is probably the right ID. It also has the boot logo which, if you sort of squint at it, looks like "Kwichuu" or "Kwichvu"-- another sign suggesting it's by Sintax. I believe this may be the same game as "Raider Max" on Sintax' now-defunct site, though it's hard to tell because the image wasn't archived with it.

Now here's the interesting part. This game uses the same music as "Super SLG", which is credited in-game to SKOB. It's also in the "Final Fantaxy IX" (sic) game that taizou owns, which is credited to TD-Soft. And aside from that, it's also in "Saishuu Gensou", a.k.a. "Final Fantasy Unlimited Saga", which has no in-game logo but also uses the "Kwichuu" boot logo associated with Sintax.

It's also very similar in style to the music used in Sintax' "True Three Kingdoms" (a.k.a. "Sangokushi Act C"), though as far as I know, none of the tunes are the same. (Then again, I haven't played very far in any of them. Anyone know if there's any overlap?)

So... is this music taken from a legitimate licensed game? Or is it just a bunch of pirates stealing each other's code? Were Sintax and SKOB in cahoots, or did they just steal from the same places? Because these are some curious coincidences indeed.

KingPepe:
It's probably possible that they're actually taking the music from a licensed game.

taizou:
my guess would be that the same developer actually made all the games - I'm pretty sure SKOB is just a publisher, Sintax might have done some stuff in-house but they definitely used at least one external developer, BBD. TD-Soft I'm not sure about.

I'm still no closer to knowing if it's stolen from anywhere though (but I played quite a bit of FFIX before I managed to wipe my saves messing about with a Game Genie, I don't recognise any of the True Three Kingdoms tunes from there)

codeman38:
Oh my. I just figured out what game the music in the three RPGs I mentioned above is taken from.

The official Game Boy version of RPG Maker.

Seriously.

The irony, 'tis hilarious. I guess that is a good place to start for generic RPG music though!  :whistle:

Alas, it is not the source of the True Three Kingdoms music, despite the similarities in style. Wonder if it's another game that Hiroyuki Takei did the music for, perhaps?Ooh, another SKOB discovery! Their Phantasy Star clone, Meng Huan Zhi Xing, has its music taken directly from "Revelations: The Demon Slayer" (a.k.a. "Last Bible"). The music's by another Hiroyuki-- Hiroyuki Yanada, specifically. I knew it was too good to be pirate original!

Even weirder, Meng Huan is a monochrome game, but Revelations is GBC. Guess it's actually newer than we thought it was.

Edit: And oh my, Last Bible is also the source of the music in taizou's VFame multicart menu!

taizou:
wow :D RPG Maker. Fantastic. seriously did no one apart from V.Fame make their own music on the GBC (and Yong Yong, but, well, yeah).

Last Bible was originally released for the mono GB in 1992 btw (only the '99 colour version got a US release)

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