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Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: fcgamer on June 01, 2013, 06:30:20 AM
Let's start by posting a picture of my Game King collection:

Spoiler: click to toggle


I have some other games as well, but they are loose so I didn't bother snapping pics of them :(

I guess what I am wondering, is what other Game King games does everyone here have?  Information about the Game King is quite scarce, and the sites out there are very incomplete.  I am trying to establish what people have, and what all is out there.

Also, one of the rumored Game King III games (Fly Car) can be confirmed; it is a generic racer of sorts.

Finally, a word of the wise to anyone that has even the slightest interest in Game King stuff.  Try to get a Game King III.  I managed to get one (loose, unfortunately, as I wish it was boxed) but with the GKIII, the screen is very clear, and one can actually see what is going on when moving in b/w GK games!!!  GKIII makes the Game King actually a nice fun handheld...
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Linkrulezall on June 07, 2013, 03:58:27 PM
Well if you can manage to get a later model of GK1, they seem to have gotten better screens. (You can identify later models by a different box). I can actually tell what's going on quite well, the screen is better than even the original GBA. I got mine from a wholesaler for only 8 bucks + shipping. Unfortunately, that wholesaler no longer carries them.

Anyways, I have the 3 carts you sold me along with the 4-in-1 that came packed in. Its art has a stolen Dark Archon from Starcraft and it comes with 4 games (obviously).

-Air War: Generic GK shooter, plays almost like 2004 but flipped on its side.
-Dead Shot: A hack of Trojan Legend. The GFX, Intro, and Sounds are different, but everything else is unchanged.
-Challenge: A seemingly original puzzle game. Its closest relative would be Moai-Kun, I think.
-Speed Boat: It's basically Super Motor, but with a boat. It also has the music from Penguin.

Oh, and I'm jealous of your collection. (but thanks for selling me what you did)
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: fcgamer on June 09, 2013, 07:12:26 PM
Linkrulezall
Jun 7 2013, 03:58:27 PM
Well if you can manage to get a later model of GK1, they seem to have gotten better screens. (You can identify later models by a different box). I can actually tell what's going on quite well, the screen is better than even the original GBA. I got mine from a wholesaler for only 8 bucks + shipping. Unfortunately, that wholesaler no longer carries them.

Anyways, I have the 3 carts you sold me along with the 4-in-1 that came packed in. Its art has a stolen Dark Archon from Starcraft and it comes with 4 games (obviously).

-Air War: Generic GK shooter, plays almost like 2004 but flipped on its side.
-Dead Shot: A hack of Trojan Legend. The GFX, Intro, and Sounds are different, but everything else is unchanged.
-Challenge: A seemingly original puzzle game. Its closest relative would be Moai-Kun, I think.
-Speed Boat: It's basically Super Motor, but with a boat. It also has the music from Penguin.

Oh, and I'm jealous of your collection. (but thanks for selling me what you did)[/quote]Is it possible to show me a picture of the box that contains the Game King with the better screen?  I actually own maybe two or three different box variants, and have seen a lot more of them.  At one point I wanted to collect Game King units by box and color, but thankfully that idea never got off the ground.

A few days back I actually found a guy's game king collection on photobucket, I think.  It was after I had posted this last post, and I saw that guy had most of the Game King 3 games, boxed, which really was a surprise to see!  I'll have to dig that link back up, but his collection made me feel like mine was nothing.

On another note, I have a few extra GK titles you can have for $5 each, if you need them:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tracker465/IMG_7568_zps4e67d640.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tracker465/media/IMG_7568_zps4e67d640.jpg.html)

I think I paid about $5 each for these, and then when I was out and about, saw them again and rebought them by mistake.  I sort of had the mentality that I would rather have dupes than pass something up that I needed.  But now they just sit in my sale bin, endlessly, since most people don't collect Game King.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Linkrulezall on June 10, 2013, 11:45:17 AM
Can you tell me what's on those carts?
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: fcgamer on June 14, 2013, 01:02:11 AM
Hey, sorry for the late-ish response.  Sure!

Going from left to right, top to bottom:

4 in 1
-Farer
-Sortie
-Phantom Fighter
-Seabed War

4 in 1
-Duckman
-Cyclone Action
-Happy Killer
-Ares

4 in 1 (I have two copies of this)
-Garman
-Armada
-Migat
-Brains

4 in 1
-Pet
-Arrow
-Airforce
-Fighter

4 in 1
-Terminator
-Nagual
-Blackjack
-Revenger

4 in 1
-Chaser
-Blaster
-Starwars
-Nagual


If you want / need most of these, I can let you have them all for $22 + shipping.  These are extras, and I would rather see these go to a good home than elsewhere :)
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on February 06, 2017, 11:47:04 PM
I picked up a Game King II for a decent price a bit ago, oddly while I was looking for a Gamate.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/439/31706303624_e197bc1331_b.jpg)

It's alright for what it is. Reminds me a lot of the old LCD games from Tiger and the like.

Are there any 1-on-1 fighters available for it?
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Linkrulezall on February 16, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Ninjinister
Feb 6 2017, 11:47:04 PM
Are there any 1-on-1 fighters available for it?[/quote]Not that I know of, the closest you're gonna get is probably Street Hero or one of its variants. However, I have seen a one-on-one fighter called King Boxing (https://youtu.be/9R1DoxviIKY?t=5m54s) on some cheap-o handheld which seems to use cloned Game King hardware.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on February 17, 2017, 02:32:43 AM
Linkrulezall
Feb 16 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Ninjinister
Feb 6 2017, 11:47:04 PM
Are there any 1-on-1 fighters available for it?[/quote]Not that I know of, the closest you're gonna get is probably Street Hero or one of its variants. However, I have seen a one-on-one fighter called King Boxing (https://youtu.be/9R1DoxviIKY?t=5m54s) on some cheap-o handheld which seems to use cloned Game King hardware.[/quote]Oh bloody heck I saw that so long ago I didn't even realize that it was anything similar to the Game King. I'd like to know if that game is available or works on the GK proper... maybe I'll find out some day.

Thanks for that!
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Obsolete_Worlds on April 10, 2017, 08:21:28 AM
Linkrulezall
Feb 16 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Ninjinister
Feb 6 2017, 11:47:04 PM
Are there any 1-on-1 fighters available for it?[/quote]Not that I know of, the closest you're gonna get is probably Street Hero or one of its variants. However, I have seen a one-on-one fighter called King Boxing (https://youtu.be/9R1DoxviIKY?t=5m54s) on some cheap-o handheld which seems to use cloned Game King hardware.[/quote]Hi guys,

Just saw your post about this. There is actually a 1-1 fighting game for the Game King named 'Fighter'. It's a surprisingly detailed Street Fighter 2 clone complete with voice samples and special moves!

I reviewed it (with screenshots) on my blog here: http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/fighter.html (http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/fighter.html)

It's available only on Volume 12 of the 4-1 carts.

Hope that's helpful to you.  :dance:
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on April 26, 2017, 04:01:25 AM
Obsolete_Worlds
Apr 10 2017, 08:21:28 AM
Linkrulezall
Feb 16 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Ninjinister
Feb 6 2017, 11:47:04 PM
Are there any 1-on-1 fighters available for it?[/quote]Not that I know of, the closest you're gonna get is probably Street Hero or one of its variants. However, I have seen a one-on-one fighter called King Boxing (https://youtu.be/9R1DoxviIKY?t=5m54s) on some cheap-o handheld which seems to use cloned Game King hardware.[/quote]Hi guys,

Just saw your post about this. There is actually a 1-1 fighting game for the Game King named 'Fighter'. It's a surprisingly detailed Street Fighter 2 clone complete with voice samples and special moves!

I reviewed it (with screenshots) on my blog here: http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/fighter.html (http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/fighter.html)

It's available only on Volume 12 of the 4-1 carts.

Hope that's helpful to you.  :dance: [/quote]Ohhh holy snapple that is awesome! I gotta find that!

How do you tell what volume each 4-in-1 is? I can't find an indicator anywhere.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Obsolete_Worlds on May 28, 2017, 08:13:44 AM
Ninjinister
Apr 26 2017, 04:01:25 AM
Obsolete_Worlds
Apr 10 2017, 08:21:28 AM
Linkrulezall
Feb 16 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Ninjinister
Feb 6 2017, 11:47:04 PM
Are there any 1-on-1 fighters available for it?[/quote]Not that I know of, the closest you're gonna get is probably Street Hero or one of its variants. However, I have seen a one-on-one fighter called King Boxing (https://youtu.be/9R1DoxviIKY?t=5m54s) on some cheap-o handheld which seems to use cloned Game King hardware.[/quote]Hi guys,

Just saw your post about this. There is actually a 1-1 fighting game for the Game King named 'Fighter'. It's a surprisingly detailed Street Fighter 2 clone complete with voice samples and special moves!

I reviewed it (with screenshots) on my blog here: http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/fighter.html (http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/fighter.html)

It's available only on Volume 12 of the 4-1 carts.

Hope that's helpful to you.  :dance: [/quote]Ohhh holy snapple that is awesome! I gotta find that!

How do you tell what volume each 4-in-1 is? I can't find an indicator anywhere.[/quote]

Some of the boxes have it written on the front or spine, others don't. I'm planning a big update to the Gameking section of my website soon which I hope will fully document all titles and models available and their serial numbers. My research has led me to believe that there are 90 individual titles available in total (including multi cart exclusives) and so far I have 63 of them and am slowly working my way through reviewing them all.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: fcgamer on May 28, 2017, 11:38:33 AM
Yeah, I have most of these games, I think.  Too bad I need to go to bed now, otherwise I would take a look at my records and see just how many GK games I have.
On another note, there are several different print runs of the Game King multicarts, and even some Korean releases!
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on May 28, 2017, 04:39:50 PM
Obsolete_Worlds
May 28 2017, 08:13:44 AM
Some of the boxes have it written on the front or spine, others don't. I'm planning a big update to the Gameking section of my website soon which I hope will fully document all titles and models available and their serial numbers. My research has led me to believe that there are 90 individual titles available in total (including multi cart exclusives) and so far I have 63 of them and am slowly working my way through reviewing them all.[/quote]Blinkin' hell, I don't have boxes with any of my multi-carts :/
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: fcgamer on May 28, 2017, 05:19:29 PM
Here are the ones I know about, on my list are 82, plus 13 Game King III games, totaling 95 games that I know about in total.  I am sure there could be others I do not know about though, and I am missing a few from my personal collection, anyone have some games to add to this list?

2003
2004
Adventure Legend Carlo
Air Wrestle
Airforce
Airhero
Airwar
Ares
Armada
Arrow
Bad Boy
Blackjack
Blaster
Bobby
Brains
Captain
Catman
Challenge
Chariot
Chaser
Clever Hawk
CS – I
Cycloneact
Dead Shot
Dino Adventure Legend
Dragon
Drifter
Duckman
Elfin
Explorer
F1-2004 Racing
Farer
Feichuan VII
Fighter
General
Happy Ball
Happy Garden
Happy Killer
Hero
Killer
Lanneret
Lightsword
Magician
Man Hunt
Metal Deform
Might
Miner
Mother Love
Nagual
Nobody
Peace Kavass
Penguin
Pet
Phantom Fighter
Pocket Tank
Popper
Racing Car
Revenger
Risker
Sea Tercle
Sea War
Seabed War
Seafight
Seaguard
Searcher
Soldier
Sortie
Spectask
Speed Boat
Star Ghazi
Starwards
Street Hero
Supermotor
Surf Eidolon
Tantivy
Terminator
Three Battles
Thunderbird
Trojan Legend
Valiant
Warrior
Whirlybird

Game King III:

2030
Adventure
Aeolus
Blaze Plane
Diamond
Falcon Corps
Fly Car
Galaxy Crisis
Hermic Battle
Panzer
Search Action
Urgent Action
Vagrant

As a fun fact, Time Top also released a 16 bit plug n play, in Game King style.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Obsolete_Worlds on May 29, 2017, 03:46:34 AM
Ninjinister
May 28 2017, 04:39:50 PM
Obsolete_Worlds
May 28 2017, 08:13:44 AM
Some of the boxes have it written on the front or spine, others don't. I'm planning a big update to the Gameking section of my website soon which I hope will fully document all titles and models available and their serial numbers. My research has led me to believe that there are 90 individual titles available in total (including multi cart exclusives) and so far I have 63 of them and am slowly working my way through reviewing them all.[/quote]Blinkin' hell, I don't have boxes with any of my multi-carts :/[/quote]

I believe that at least a handful of the multicarts don't have boxes as they were bundled exclusively with the GameKing units themselves. However there are 21 volumes of multicarts in total and I believe 17 individual releases (some of which appear on the multicarts) plus the built in 3.

I recently obtained the GameKing 3 and while its nice to have such a holy grail it has lost a lot of the orignal's charm. From the moment the re-vamped Timetop logo explodes you sense that the simplicity of the original GK is lost and the built in shooter Galaxy Crisis is equally over the top.

I've never played any of the fabled Gameking 3 carts so can't comment on them but would be interested to hear from anyone who has.

Playing the original GK games in colour isn't really all its cracked up to be either as they are often given gaudy colour pallettes that make the action indistinguishable.

My favourite GK is still the original. It has a nice screen and d pad. I really only use the backlit GK2 for capturing screenshots for my reviews.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: fcgamer on May 29, 2017, 09:05:14 AM
I find it plausible that all of the multicarts came CIB, although I cannot personally confirm it.  Some of the carts that had been used as pack-ins, also had boxed versions available.  

Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Obsolete_Worlds on July 25, 2017, 09:37:22 AM
I recently got hold of the GameKing successor, the Timetop LTPS Handygame. Unfortunately it didn't come with any cartridges so I had to make do with the built in games.

I've posted a full review of the unit on my website here:

http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/timetop-ltps-handygame-gm-228.html (http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/timetop-ltps-handygame-gm-228.html)

I'd really like to know some details of the game cartridges that came with it. Did anyone else get one of these and can you tell me anything about the games that came on them?

I'd also like to know if 'Adventure' is the same as the GKIII game or something different if anyone has any idea.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: taizou on July 25, 2017, 06:49:00 PM
I have a couple of the cartridges, they just contain NES/FC games - nothing Timetop-original.
(It's possible they also released carts with original games, but I haven't seen any)
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Obsolete_Worlds on July 26, 2017, 03:20:15 AM
taizou
Jul 25 2017, 06:49:00 PM
I have a couple of the cartridges, they just contain NES/FC games - nothing Timetop-original.
(It's possible they also released carts with original games, but I haven't seen any)[/quote]

Thanks for the info. I guess that confirms that the hardware is a famiclone, but the built in games don't seem to run smoothly like Famicom games would and the first game, Magic, seems to look a lot better than most Famicom games do. Perhaps Timetop were just very ineffectual Famicom programmers?

Were the games on the cartridge re-skinned in some way to avoid copyrights? I ask as the Handygame was commercially sold in the French market by the looks of the packaging.

It makes me wonder why they went to the bother of designing their own (poor) Contra clone if they could have just re-skinned the original game...
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: taizou on July 27, 2017, 03:43:23 PM
The hardware is some kind of extended Famiclone like VT03 with upgraded graphics over the original, not sure exactly which type though. But yeah I'm sure Timetop (or whoever they contracted to develop the games) weren't the greatest FC programmers in any case.

The games on the cartridges are completely identical to the originals, there were a couple internet-sourced hacks and translations lurking in there but nothing copyright-dodging at all. It's possible those cartridges were never distributed in France though, both of mine came from China (one packed in with the console and one sold separately). Presumably the reason they made original games to build into the system rather than simply ripping off FC stuff was so they could sell the console to copyright-conscious markets in a 'legal' state without any pirated software.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Obsolete_Worlds on July 28, 2017, 01:19:07 PM
taizou
Jul 27 2017, 03:43:23 PM
The hardware is some kind of extended Famiclone like VT03 with upgraded graphics over the original, not sure exactly which type though. But yeah I'm sure Timetop (or whoever they contracted to develop the games) weren't the greatest FC programmers in any case.

The games on the cartridges are completely identical to the originals, there were a couple internet-sourced hacks and translations lurking in there but nothing copyright-dodging at all. It's possible those cartridges were never distributed in France though, both of mine came from China (one packed in with the console and one sold separately). Presumably the reason they made original games to build into the system rather than simply ripping off FC stuff was so they could sell the console to copyright-conscious markets in a 'legal' state without any pirated software.[/quote]My unit came from France and the box does indicate it came with two separate cartridges (plus there is a space for them inside), they were only not included because the ebay seller I bought from had lost them.

It does seem odd or unlikely that they would have contained unaltered Famicom games in French territories or perhaps they were just happy to take the risk by not advertising the content up front.

I had assumed they were the only such cartridges produced (kind of like some of the current handhelds you get on Aliexpress have random cartridges with them) but from what you are saying it sounds as if Timetop actually made more for sale independently in China...interesting

Does any information exist on who made games for Timetop? I genuinely enjoy their efforts for the GameKing although from GKIII onwards they seemed to lose touch with what made those games quirky fun. The opening logo montage for the GKIII has a bombastic exploding planet that's kind of a warning as to the direction they had decided to pursue!
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: taizou on July 29, 2017, 11:57:17 AM
Yeah they did sell some cartridges separately, the one I have actually came boxed. The box doesn't mention Timetop anywhere on it though, presumably they were trying to distance themselves from these carts a little (despite packing them in with the consoles..)

(incidentally many of the Aliexpress handhelds actually come with 'fake' cartridges that don't contain a ROM chip but just switch between sets of built-in games, so it would be actually impossible for the manufacturers to produce additional cartridges for them)

As for who made the games, I'm not sure. There are a few connections to other companies works e.g. many of the LTPS Handy Game built-in games share music with certain later Waixing games like Link to the Past and Digimon, but Waixing was probably outsourcing by this point anyway, so that still doesn't exactly point to the identity of the developers.

Additionally there were some later non-Timetop all-in-one handhelds more or less based on Game King hardware with very similar games, presumably developed by the same people as the GK stuff.. then later some more advanced colour LCD handhelds appeared with some games having the same names and/or concepts as those on the GK-based ones, which may mean the developers were linked, but may also mean they just ripped off the other handhelds' games.

It's possible Timetop actually had an internal team that later went independent, or Timetop themselves were doing outsource work for other companies, or Timetop never had internal development and it was subcontracted all along.. unfortunately I have no idea what the deal actually was there.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: fcgamer on July 29, 2017, 01:55:45 PM
Tisk tisk, you guys need to read my blog more often:

https://fcgamer.wordpress.com/2015/06/24/the-game-king-has-become-a-god/ (https://fcgamer.wordpress.com/2015/06/24/the-game-king-has-become-a-god/)

Five of the six games on that handheld were released on a plug n play by Timetop, on a 7 in 1 machine.  "Magic" is not included on my machine, instead including  Crazy Speed and Bomb Boy.  I don't think this was ever meant to be a Game King spiritual predecessor, since they had been putting these games onto plug n plays for TV sets/
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on August 01, 2017, 02:11:47 AM
So there's a LTPS Handy Game like the one in Stuart Ashen's video above, which is more or less a Game King, and the one that's a Famiclone that is the one being discussed most recently...?

I'm only finding the latter for sale anywhere.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Obsolete_Worlds on August 02, 2017, 01:34:40 PM
Ninjinister
Aug 1 2017, 02:11:47 AM
So there's a LTPS Handy Game like the one in Stuart Ashen's video above, which is more or less a Game King, and the one that's a Famiclone that is the one being discussed most recently...?

I'm only finding the latter for sale anywhere.[/quote]Yes it is rather odd that both of the consoles have the same name...Perhaps it means something to people in Guangzhou. I used to live there so I ought to have asked. ^_^

Even more confusingly though, I recently obtained this:

http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/the-banyan-tree/well-this-is-odda-clone-of-a-gameking (http://www.obsoleteworlds.com/the-banyan-tree/well-this-is-odda-clone-of-a-gameking)

It appears to have nothing to do with Timetop, yet hilariously it's attempting to clone the Gameking outer casing! Like someone might be at the market and be like "wow, a GAMEKING!" then feel really cheated and disappointed later...   >;)

Sadly, despite being pretty certain that its "cartridges" are basically just activating different built in games, I only got one of them with mine and haven't been able to manually get the other games to load up to see what they are.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ankos on August 02, 2017, 02:37:15 PM
I don't know much about gameking stuff, but I do know that they only made 3 handhelds and this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SS-600-Game-King-Advance-GameKing-Adyance-/162603859412?hash=item25dbf1fdd4:g:kt4AAOSwR29ZJWTF) isn't one of them.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Obsolete_Worlds on August 03, 2017, 11:42:55 AM
I just got hold of 4-in-1 Vol 13 today. It includes the games Might (listed as "migat" on the cart), Brains, Catman (Listed as "Garman on the cart") and Armada.

It's a pretty good multicart. Might is a Contra style game that uses the Soldier engine but with more platforming and a slightly easier difficulty. Armada is the standard timetop vertical shooter that appears in some form on nearly every cart. Catman is another contra-esque game but it's not as good as Might and is extremely difficult due to large sprites.

Brains is the real oddity on this cart. It seems to be an original platform puzzle game where you have to navigate four screens (viewable via a map) collecting "hostages" and avoiding enemies. I've only made it up to stage 3 where you have to push boulders to  assist you. I hope there are more stages as it seems like a fun original title (unless someone can point me to something its cloning).

Does anyone have the "story briefs" for the games on this cart? Sadly I didn't get this with the box and instructions but I'd like to include these "briefs" when I review them on my site.

Another thing I found of interest was this:

http://s663.photobucket.com/user/sickertus/Game%20King/story (http://s663.photobucket.com/user/sickertus/Game%20King/story)

This guy seems to have some Gameking III games that were previously unknown...however I was struck by his description of "Adventure"

"possibly one of the worst games put out by timetop. Slow refresh rate platformer with unrelenting AI. Caveman with a club vs. giant pigeons and snakes."

This sounds VERY MUCH like the game "Stone Age" included on the LTPS Handygame and on the plug and play that FCGamer highlighted on his blog.

Also there is a Gameking III game called "Urgent Action" which is also the name of one of the games on the LTPS Handygame cartridges. The same game?
It doesn't seem likely since the systems have different screen resolutions but it does have me intriqued
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on January 09, 2018, 05:58:09 PM
I picked up a YD-959 "Dot Matrix Game Player" that came with King Boxing as well as The Wall, Star War (just the one), Tank, and Risk King. Will have pics and other nonesuch later as I'm on me way to work in mere moments.

EDIT: Piiiiics
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Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: forgotusername on January 13, 2018, 12:45:55 AM
Old thread, and someone may have touched upon this before, but I own the Time Top plug 'n play seen here (http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/TV_Joystick_36_in_1). Interesting to see there's a Magical Pop'n clone out there using this hardware. Would've loved to get that one but I guess Smartball is a fair trade-off for it. Also worth mentioning that Yo-Yo Rabbit is the SHIT. It's one of, if not THE best plug 'n play knockoff I've ever played.

Another thing - those 1.8" handheld games (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8C1qiNcB0k). They HAVE to have some sort of Game King/Time Top connection. Look at the game list - Risk-King, The Wall, and King Boxing are ALL Game King titles. 2012 is actually Game King's 2003, and I know I've seen Tank on one of these before too. Judging by the newer Game King-esqe things mentioned here with Angry Birds clones and whatnot, its undoubted they're connected somehow.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on January 13, 2018, 05:17:40 PM
forgotusername
Jan 13 2018, 12:45:55 AM
Another thing - those 1.8" handheld games (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8C1qiNcB0k). They HAVE to have some sort of Game King/Time Top connection. Look at the game list - Risk-King, The Wall, and King Boxing are ALL Game King titles. 2012 is actually Game King's 2003, and I know I've seen Tank on one of these before too. Judging by the newer Game King-esqe things mentioned here with Angry Birds clones and whatnot, its undoubted they're connected somehow.[/quote]

Yeah the Bootleg Games Wiki says King Boxing is a Game King game but that was literally the first time I've seen that.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: davidstech on January 13, 2018, 05:26:44 PM
The CPU core in those non-famiclone low res 1.8" systems is a 65C02, the same as a GameKing, although that could easily be a coincidence. Their music also sounds quite similar.

Perhaps some developers from TimeTop, who I think no longer exists, also did games/hardware for these new systems?
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on January 14, 2018, 05:07:46 AM
Who the heck has the "rights" to this stuff if these companies don't exist anymore (TimeTop's website is dead and Obsolete_Worlds mentioned on their website that YD folded too)?
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: forgotusername on January 14, 2018, 12:23:17 PM
I'm pretty sure Time Top still exists to some form. If you do a Google search for "time top tv game" you can find a few images of rather new-looking game systems (like this abomination (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB10MklHFXXXXbzXXXXq6xXFXXXl/Tv-game-machine-double-sensor-sports-machine-nes.jpg_640x640.jpg)). Only $616.43 on Aliexpress! What a deal!
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on January 14, 2018, 08:09:32 PM
Well why in the deuce would they shutter their website though?
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: codeman38 on January 20, 2018, 12:42:41 AM
Ninjinister
Jan 14 2018, 08:09:32 PM
Well why in the deuce would they shutter their website though?[/quote]Because they've done something all too typical for Chinese manufacturers: letting the old site expire and then getting a new one entirely.

http://www.timetop.tv (http://www.timetop.tv) seems to be their current site, and now they're apparently focusing on games for cable boxes (!).
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on January 20, 2018, 05:58:20 PM
codeman38
Jan 20 2018, 12:42:41 AM
Ninjinister
Jan 14 2018, 08:09:32 PM
Well why in the deuce would they shutter their website though?[/quote]Because they've done something all too typical for Chinese manufacturers: letting the old site expire and then getting a new one entirely.

http://www.timetop.tv (http://www.timetop.tv) seems to be their current site, and now they're apparently focusing on games for cable boxes (!).[/quote]Well thank you for that! Somehow that didn't come up in my attempt to find a working site for them!
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: davidstech on January 20, 2018, 06:01:10 PM
I wonder if it's the same Game King development team, or another team, doing those games? It's still a possibility I think that some of the Game King developers are now at a new (AFAIK not known) company doing the games for these 1.8" handhelds. So far my dumping of these handhelds has yielded no clues towards any companies or individuals, other than the name "tony".
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Obsolete_Worlds on January 26, 2018, 10:01:49 AM
Ninjinister
Jan 13 2018, 05:17:40 PM
forgotusername
Jan 13 2018, 12:45:55 AM
Another thing - those 1.8" handheld games (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8C1qiNcB0k). They HAVE to have some sort of Game King/Time Top connection. Look at the game list - Risk-King, The Wall, and King Boxing are ALL Game King titles. 2012 is actually Game King's 2003, and I know I've seen Tank on one of these before too. Judging by the newer Game King-esqe things mentioned here with Angry Birds clones and whatnot, its undoubted they're connected somehow.[/quote]

Yeah the Bootleg Games Wiki says King Boxing is a Game King game but that was literally the first time I've seen that.[/quote]There are no Game King games with those names that I'm aware of. I have a full spreadsheet of every game ever documented. About the closest is 'Risker' but that's actually a Spy Hunter clone on GK. The games use a similar dot matrix technology for sure and are maybe programmed using the same method but they are more 'GK style' than ports.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: MLX on January 26, 2018, 04:07:54 PM
If you notice a questionable entry on the wiki you should mention them in the talk page or eventually edit it out.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: forgotusername on January 27, 2018, 01:05:56 AM
Obsolete_Worlds
Jan 26 2018, 10:01:49 AM
There are no Game King games with those names that I'm aware of. I have a full spreadsheet of every game ever documented. About the closest is 'Risker' but that's actually a Spy Hunter clone on GK. The games use a similar dot matrix technology for sure and are maybe programmed using the same method but they are more 'GK style' than ports.[/quote]Some of them are hacks of Game King games (I know Risk-King is a hack of Carlo Adventure Legend at the very least). I just figured the dot matrix stuff was effectively the same thing.
Title: Game King Stuff
Post by: Ninjinister on March 06, 2018, 03:52:38 AM
MLX
Jan 26 2018, 04:07:54 PM
If you notice a questionable entry on the wiki you should mention them in the talk page or eventually edit it out.[/quote]Now how did I not think of that, I run a big Wiki myself :|