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Pirate Discussion => Game Boy => Topic started by: taizou on July 01, 2012, 04:10:10 PM

Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: taizou on July 01, 2012, 04:10:10 PM
All credit to RobGBA for this one - he was poking around with my (unsuccessful) dump of Harry Potter 3 by Yong Yong trying to get it working, and he discovered the string "MakonSoftStudio" in the ROM. he also found it in the existing dumps of Digimon 2, 4 and 5.

so, what is this MakonSoftStudio? Yong Yong's real name?  the makers of some development tool they used? Either way, Google returns nothing of interest, except an Android developer MLX found called Makon Mobile Studios (http://www.androlib.com/android.developer.makon-mobile-studios-jxnEz.aspx) whose games I can't seem to find for download. possibly a connection there?
Okay there's *definitely* a connection here. This page has screenshots from one of Makon Mobile Studios' games, "Rolling Ball":
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/casual/rolling-ball_beexh.html (http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/casual/rolling-ball_beexh.html)
which is a remake of Rockball by Sachen! using the levels from the hacked version, "Lair's Secret"! omg! this shit all fits together now.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Awesome Panda on July 01, 2012, 04:25:09 PM
If the last Yong Yong/Makon Soft Studio GBC game was released around about 2003, what were they doing between then and Android games?

Also, if Yong Yong isn't the company then wouldn't it be a programmer who made the games?
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: KingPepe on July 01, 2012, 04:48:36 PM
Huh, that's interesting. Is there any more apps they did? I tried checking their page but it doesn't seem to list any. o_o
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: taizou on July 01, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
Yeah, they were all removed from the Android Market for some reason. I found one more (in both HD and non-HD versions) though:
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/casual/crazy-ball_bgiaw.html (http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/casual/crazy-ball_bgiaw.html)
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/casual/crazy-ball-hd_bghcn.html (http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/casual/crazy-ball-hd_bghcn.html)
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on July 01, 2012, 07:01:00 PM
It is interesting knowing there are pirate developers that carry on with their job of programming games. ;)
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on July 28, 2012, 09:04:23 AM
Okay, every 'Yong Yong' game is actually by Makon. Every single Yong Yong dumped, broken OR working have MK as their maker code in VBA-M's Rom Information! Want proof of it? Here you are : (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2222/52756335.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/52756335.png/)
And you can find MK in a hex editor for Sonic 3D Blast 5.
EDIT : Whoops, forgot to mention that Rockman 8 is actually Sachen, not Yong Yong. :P
Also I forgot to add Pokemon Adventure ;^^
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Pepper-98 on July 28, 2012, 09:56:36 AM
Crazy Panda
Jul 28 2012, 09:04:23 AM
EDIT : Whoops, forgot to mention that Rockman 8 is actually Sachen, not Yong Yong. :P[/quote]Woah wait, really?!  I guess TBM was completely developed by Sachen themselves after all...?

Edit: Wait, is it really by Sachen, like does it say that in the ROM?  Rockman 8 shares a ton of similarities to Yong Yong/Makon Soft, including the several re-releases and the limited palette for the colorized ones.  I'm aware that Makon seemed to have some people from Sachen, but it still seems kinda odd unless they used the Sachen name before fully converting over to Makon.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on July 28, 2012, 10:07:23 AM
Qiezei
Jul 28 2012, 09:56:36 AM
Crazy Panda
Jul 28 2012, 09:04:23 AM
EDIT : Whoops, forgot to mention that Rockman 8 is actually Sachen, not Yong Yong. :P[/quote]Woah wait, really?!  I guess TBM was completely developed by Sachen themselves after all...?[/quote]Yeah. Rom Information for TBM shows :
Game title:       THUNDER BLASTER
Colour:            80
Maker code:     HY                          (holy shit , maybe ei how yang is in this?)
Maker name:    Sachen                    (see? told ya)
Unit code:       00
Cartridge type: 01(ROM+MBC1)
License code: 4b
And the other stuff isn't useful.
Oh yeah, Rockman 8/99 actually has no trace of developer, but the Licence code is the same.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: taizou on July 28, 2012, 10:38:37 AM
hey thats interesting, I didn't even know companies used the maker code that way. Checking a few of my failed Waixing dumps one has "wx" in there and another has "sg". Sintax don't seem to use it (or they just use 01, Nintendo), and Vast Fame usually have A7 (Takara) I guess because their first game was a hack of Takara's KOF.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on July 28, 2012, 11:22:57 AM
taizou
Jul 28 2012, 10:38:37 AM
hey thats interesting, I didn't even know companies used the maker code that way. Checking a few of my failed Waixing dumps one has "wx" in there and another has "sg". Sintax don't seem to use it (or they just use 01, Nintendo), and Vast Fame usually have A7 (Takara) I guess because their first game was a hack of Takara's KOF.[/quote]And your waixing multi has A4 (Konami) :P
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: taizou on July 28, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
Waixing games seem to vary, they probably used a few different devs. A few of their games just have the header from Bokujou Monogatari 2 complete with its maker code (Victor)
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: codeman38 on August 12, 2012, 12:28:57 PM
Great finds, everyone! Don't know how I managed not to notice this thread till now.

Some more fun with maker codes and other header-related stuff:

* Harry Potter 3 uses "@7" for its maker code, which doesn't seem to correspond to any official licensee. However, it's very close to Takara's code (A7)...as in, literally one bit off...and there's at least one other game that uses "@7": Crazy Richman 2! So perhaps HP3 really is some sort of Vast Fame side project. It definitely doesn't jibe with everything developed by Sintax, which, as mentioned above, uses code 01.

* There are at least two other RPGs which also have a header taken entirely from Bokujou Monogatari, but which aren't from Waixing (they even have a logo for "Hitek" in the ROM). "Heroic Sword" is one of them; the other is in GoodGBX as "Bokujou Monogatari GB2 (Unl)", even though it clearly has nothing whatsoever to do with Harvest Moon aside from the header. Curiously, these also seem to share a sound engine with the relevant Waixing games...which appears to be stolen from Link's Awakening.

* Vast Fame's GBA stuff appears to use the header info from Kiki Kaikai Advance. (Maker code DF, Altron Corporation; game ID DKIJ.) That would explain why their Lord of the Rings game plays an awful lot like Pocky & Rocky, then!
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: taizou on August 12, 2012, 04:49:49 PM
codeman38
Aug 12 2012, 12:28:57 PM
* Harry Potter 3 uses "@7" for its maker code, which doesn't seem to correspond to any official licensee. However, it's very close to Takara's code (A7)...as in, literally one bit off...and there's at least one other game that uses "@7": Crazy Richman 2! So perhaps HP3 really is some sort of Vast Fame side project. It definitely doesn't jibe with everything developed by Sintax, which, as mentioned above, uses code 01.[/quote]Yeah, I'm really interested in finding an original copy of HP3 (the version shown in screenshots by Sky League a while back) to see if it has any more apparent Vast Fameness, since the dumped version is from Li Cheng & they clearly hacked it up a bit. I'm getting a copy from Taobao that looks promising, but Qiezei bought one with the same label which turned out to be Pokemon Red - hopefully that was just a PCB mixup and they aren't all like that.
codeman38
 
* There are at least two other RPGs which also have a header taken entirely from Bokujou Monogatari, but which aren't from Waixing (they even have a logo for "Hitek" in the ROM). "Heroic Sword" is one of them; the other is in GoodGBX as "Bokujou Monogatari GB2 (Unl)", even though it clearly has nothing whatsoever to do with Harvest Moon aside from the header. Curiously, these also seem to share a sound engine with the relevant Waixing games...which appears to be stolen from Link's Awakening.[/quote]
Terrifying 911 I think uses the Link's Awakening sound engine too, which is kind of not hugely surprising since it's credited to Hitek explicitly. It's hard to tell, since the only video I know of is this review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNQjU2BXMts), which has a dude talking over most of it, but they talk about the sound around 5:10 and you get to hear a bit of it. Gowin's color games use the LA sound engine too - maybe a developer in common between all three of them there?

The somewhat-unexpected thing is that Terrifying 911 uses PC Paint fonts too, though, so maybe whichever developer that was is tied into the whole Gamtec group somehow? (or maybe they picked up leftover tools and stuff via Gowin from their mono games, which definitely were developed by some kind of Gamtec-connected entity)
oh and on a tenuously related note, a lot of Sintax's games seem to be built over the first Harvest Moon - if you compare pretty much any Sintax ROM with Harvest Moon side by side, you can see they basically just overwrote the start of each bank with their own stuff, but left the Harvest Moon data in the rest of it. No idea if they actually made use of any HM code though.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: codeman38 on August 12, 2012, 07:52:29 PM
taizou
Aug 12 2012, 04:49:49 PM
Terrifying 911 I think uses the Link's Awakening sound engine too, which is kind of not hugely surprising since it's credited to Hitek explicitly. It's hard to tell, since the only video I know of is this review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNQjU2BXMts), which has a dude talking over most of it, but they talk about the sound around 5:10 and you get to hear a bit of it. Gowin's color games use the LA sound engine too - maybe a developer in common between all three of them there?

The somewhat-unexpected thing is that Terrifying 911 uses PC Paint fonts too, though, so maybe whichever developer that was is tied into the whole Gamtec group somehow? (or maybe they picked up leftover tools and stuff via Gowin from their mono games, which definitely were developed by some kind of Gamtec-connected entity)[/quote]Yeah, I'd thought the same thing from what I could hear in the Terrifying 911 vid. And I'd forgotten about the Gowin games using the same sound engine.

As for fonts, the RPG that's in GoodGBX as "Bokujou Monogatari GB2 (Unl)" uses PC Paint fonts on its status screens. So clearly there's some sort of connection between Hitek and the Gamtec cluster, but...beats me as to how tenuous the connection is.

taizou
 
oh and on a tenuously related note, a lot of Sintax's games seem to be built over the first Harvest Moon - if you compare pretty much any Sintax ROM with Harvest Moon side by side, you can see they basically just overwrote the start of each bank with their own stuff, but left the Harvest Moon data in the rest of it. No idea if they actually made use of any HM code though.[/quote]Ah, yes, I'd noticed that with the Ice Age games a while back.
Oh, also, at least one of Gowin's color games (Magic Lamp) uses the sound engine from Castlevania II.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on October 08, 2012, 03:02:23 PM
Oh wow, I've been playing their games on mah NEW ANDROID PHONE! They're not half bad, actually. I managed to rip some music from them, so like if you want to listen to their lazy (but MIDI-like) music, I'll upload them later. :)

:O Well well well, their logo says YOWOO, whatever that means.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on December 14, 2012, 04:04:44 AM
BUMP!
http://apps.talkandroid.com/images/screenshots/229250-0.png (http://apps.talkandroid.com/images/screenshots/229250-0.png)
Beta screenshot?!
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on December 29, 2012, 07:57:12 AM
Sorry for yet another bump, but I have some news!

Taizou tried to dump Mewtwo Strikes Back, and it failed, so I asked for the broken ROM.
The 'Maker Code' in it is GC! Now, we need to figure what this stands for.

Is it just 'Game Color'?

I have seen GC in many of the Yong Yong games anyways, usually as 'gcn', or just GC at the end of the ROM.

And, on a less serious note, Mewtwo Strikes Back's header is "POCKETMONSTER3". I've always wondered why loads of it was stolen from Pocket Monster for the Mega Drive! So I suppose that it was supposed to be the third in the series.

Makon also did this with Pokemon Adventure! In there, it's title in the header? Nothing but "POKEMONGOLD 2"! Now that will explain why they added the Pokedex data at the start.

Why were these not called as they should be in the header? We'll never know, until we get in contact with the guy. :\

The more Makon games we get dumped (even bad dumps!), the more we uncover of them.

I myself only have Digimon 2 english (and 3D Blast 5 on it's way, thanks to Qiezei) but really, we need more! :D
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on February 13, 2013, 01:35:23 PM
Hey guys, nobody saw the other stuff I said, but you'll probably wanna hear what I noticed some time ago.
...
They stole a LOT from Antz. I can't believe I only noticed about a month ago, I've had the damn game since I got a GBC. :lol:

Infact, here's a chart of stuff I noticed!
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg633/RobGBA/Antz-Makon-Graph_zps4dbdc1e9.png)

And this may seem really odd, but they stole the sound engine if you hear closely, and made BAD use of it. D: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aIVJRyYv3s)
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on February 15, 2013, 01:45:49 PM
BUMP!

You guys should hear some of Makon's stuff in reverse. The crappy ones sounds 'decent' reversed, and I have a feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night :lol: they're stolen from somewhere.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Awesome Panda on February 15, 2013, 02:56:57 PM
Well, Makon Soft's Rockman and Sonic games ripped off music from those respective series. (Albeit to the extent that the songs are barely recognisable)
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on March 17, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
Figured we need some footage of Rolling Ball. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hOgDrgllqM)
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Picrodus on March 17, 2013, 12:15:54 PM
I searched makonsoft android and got Makon Mobile Studios-Android手机游戏合辑-Android91手机应用中心 which took me to this site. http://ibbs.91.com/ (http://ibbs.91.com/) is that their stuff? It looks like I found a game with scrat from ice age in a bubble bobble like game called "Of Bubble Bobble Rats Atlantis" on the site. Could it be their work? I mean just look at this picture looks like a bootleg to me :D
(http://img1.sjpic.91rb.com/soft/2013/2/7/45cbc8c1b0cf4769ae73c98a50fdf4fc/thumb_7da1d34c89cb4eb7aa42a52dc5fd436c_288x480.jpg)
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: taizou on March 17, 2013, 02:39:11 PM
no I dont think so, that just looks like a generic Android forum/site. I guess at some point they had info about Makon's games when they were still on sale.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on March 17, 2013, 02:42:11 PM
Oh that. That's just one of those games by Gameloft where you have to build a village, and that one's called Ice Age Village. (like the ones of Facebook.)
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Picrodus on March 17, 2013, 08:21:14 PM
No, I don't think so. When I was playing it what you had to do was shoot fruit at other fruit hanging from the cealing to get points and make the fruit fall. Nothing like building a village. It even says bubble bobble in its name translated from Chinese. Here, this image is more helpful to my point.
(http://img1.sjpic.91rb.com/soft/2013/2/7/45cbc8c1b0cf4769ae73c98a50fdf4fc/thumb_e7a2fad258a14278815dd4f10028b887_288x480.jpg)
It's also not on the appstore. Though I know that this isn't makonsoft studio, but I don't think it's official either.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: taizou on March 17, 2013, 09:57:18 PM
maybe it'd be more helpful if you actually post a link to the game.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Picrodus on March 17, 2013, 11:07:44 PM
Oh yeah silly me. Here you go (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&ei=mmZGUYVbkvKsAdGjgNgN&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmakonsoft%2Bandroid%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26rlz%3D1Y1LUNP_enUS513US513%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D800&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-CN&u=http://d.91.com/Soft/Android/com.moreshine.bubblegame.dj-21-1.2.7.dj.html&usg=ALkJrhg1B6bZpbVMGTcn1ymfl_LvFyqLNw)
Edited to add that the page was put through Google translate because that is what I entered the site through. I went back to look for the original but couldn't remember the pages I went through so I went through my search history and found this page again. Just said this to make sure that it won't bother anyone's internet browser or hinders the download or something. I don't know. And that's why it's in English instead of the original Chinese.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on March 18, 2013, 03:48:25 AM
Yeah, I don't think this is anything Makon would make, it just looks like some kind of Puzzle Bobble clone.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: taizou on March 18, 2013, 09:06:45 AM
Yeah it seems to be by a developer called Moreshine.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on March 18, 2013, 11:55:27 AM
I'm supposing they got removed off the Play Store with Makon aswell. :\ Oh Google, you sure do like removing shitty developers.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Picrodus on March 19, 2013, 12:39:01 AM
Hey Rob, how'd you get the apk file for magic ball? When I followed those links towards the top they basically said that it was undownloadable.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Robyn on March 19, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
Magic Ball? I don't have that one. o_o

I just nabbed Rolling Ball before some other links died.
Title: MakonSoftStudio
Post by: Picrodus on March 19, 2013, 03:27:58 PM
RobGBA
Mar 19 2013, 11:54:08 AM
Magic Ball? I don't have that one. o_o

I just nabbed Rolling Ball before some other links died.[/quote]oh I guess I meant rolling ball  :)
I found the apk files for all three games and they are working. From the same site as the scrat bootleg. Here you go (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&ei=xgRJUd_VOqnHigKhxoHQBw&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcrazy%2Bball%2Bmakon%2Bapk%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D800&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-CN&u=http://d.91.com/ComHandler/SoftByAuthor%3Fauthor%3DMakon%2520Mobile%2520Studios&usg=ALkJrhgJO8XpHre8VwvbrF8rxxbphEVcUA) :D