Obscure SNES pirates

[Awesome Panda]

Can you provide those pictures of DBZ? I don't recall seeing that version before.

[taizou]

ooh. i found this forum thread in Portuguese about Aladdin 2000:
http://www.nesarchive.net/forum/index.php?topic=20297.0
to quote a google translation: "was NOT the original Aladdin (Capcom), but a kind of remake of the mega drive called Aladdin "Aladdin 2000." "
& here's a video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS1jiU2fnFo

[Awesome Panda]

So it's a port of a game made for the console that the original game was made for? O_o

[Barver]

Nope, it looks like a port of the Genesis version Just like taizou suggested. Guess since the Genesis got a port of the SNES version, the SNES needed a port of the Genesis version

That's pretty awesome, yet another new pirate. Now the impossible task of tracking it down.

[Awesome Panda]

Barver

Jul 9 2011, 09:05:30 PM

Nope, it looks like a port of the Genesis version Just like taizou suggested.[/quote]That's what I meant.

[Doomkid]

That looks really fun.. I always wanted this version to be on the SNES, since I never owned a Genesis. Does anyone know wether or not it's been dumped?

[Barver]

It's likely not, else we'd know about it I think =p

Sorry Cheetahman, I was just confused by how your post was worded heh.

[codeman38]

As a random aside, I find it interesting how rarely SNES pirates ever made their own music.

And also as a random aside, every single SNES pirate that I've ever seen steals either its music or its sound engine from Capcom. Aladdin, obviously, steals the music from Aladdin; the two Pokemon games steal music from Bonkers; and many of the fighting games have music stolen straight out of SF2. But even the ones that do have original music (e.g., Pokemon Stadium and Super Big 2) have a sound engine stolen from Super Pang.

Edited to add: Pirates have been using the Super Pang sound engine for a good while, too. "Gamars Puzzle", one of the first unlicensed things known for SNES (it's a 9-piece picture puzzle from the BIOS of a ROM dumper from 1994!), uses the samples from Super Pang at the very least.

[taizou]

I wonder if they had some kind of development tool in common then? Gamars published Taiwan 16 Mahjong 2 AFAIK (and some undumped Chinese Chess game) which also uses the Super Pang sound engine and seems very much like something developed by one of that whole Taichung set.

so maybe Gamars/Kaiser (also credited in Puzzle, I dunno if they're the same company or they just worked together) made a dev kit, with their presumably decent technical knowledge of the SNES, but didn't have the development talent to make much more than that Puzzle game with it.. then they hired some more experienced developer to make those two games for them, and said dev just kept the tools afterwards? i dunno, i'm totally just speculating here.

[codeman38]

If I'm understanding this Chinese forum thread correctly, Kaiser was the original manufacturer (they've been around since the NES days, and have released a fair amount of Famicom bootleg carts); then Gamars, which is a brand of some company called "Zi San", rebranded the unit. Or something like that, anyway.

Edit: This FamicomWorld thread shows an actual picture of the unit. Yep, that is definitely Kaiser's logo on it, in addition to the Gamars logo.

Edit #2: Even more puzzlingly, some versions of the unit have "GAMARS" text directly under the Kaiser logo. So yeah, either they're the same company, or else one bought the other...

[Barver]

Hercules has its own music I don't recognize from anything. I was gonna send it to Azathoth so he can dump it so maybe everyone can see for themselves soon enough. I don't know the original PSX game so have no idea if it's taken from there or not. Better than the Genesis soundtrack though IMO.

[Awesome Panda]

codeman38

Jul 13 2011, 11:35:08 PM

Edit #2: Even more puzzlingly, some versions of the unit have "GAMARS" text directly under the Kaiser logo. So yeah, either they're the same company, or else one bought the other...[/quote]Dunno about that. A few of Sachen's games did the same thing with the Hacker logo, and they were two different companies.

[klax]

Drat! I don't own a "Super Game"! Look's like I can't play Punch-out!  
What? a street fighter pirate? on a nintendo sytem? I'm shocked!  :lol:
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Here's a shat load of SNES Mulitcart's.

[KingPepe]

klax

Jul 17 2011, 10:24:04 AM

Drat! I don't own a "Super Game"! Look's like I can't play Punch-out!  
What? a street fighter pirate? on a nintendo sytem? I'm shocked!  :lol:
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Here's a shat load of SNES Mulitcart's.[/quote]Is it me or are none of these pics showing up?

[codeman38]

Yeah, please link directly to the images if you're using the Internet Archive. They use a system of redirects that doesn't allow the images to be embedded.